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Herman Cain: Electrify the Border Fence
Michelle Malkin ^ | 10-15-2011 | Doug Powers

Posted on 10/15/2011 6:06:22 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Herman Cain: Electrify the Border Fence

Doug Powers

October 15, 2011

It’s now a “9999plan: 9 percent personal income tax, 9 percent national sales tax, 9 percent business tax, and a 9 amp jolt if you try to illegally cross into the US.

New York Times:

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.

The remarks, which came at two campaign rallies in Tennessee as part of a barnstorming bus tour across the state, drew loud cheers from crowds of several hundred people at each rally. At the second stop, in Harriman, Tenn., Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.
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It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical. Mr. Cain often says he told the caller that he had recently returned from China, and if the Chinese could build the Great Wall then America could build a border fence.

Before we assume that Herman Cain’s suggestion will cause Democrats or even select Republicans to throw even more scorn in his direction, I’d suggest this: Cain could win over many of them simply by saying that in his border plan, the fence would be electrified with power provided by solar panels the government purchased from stimulus-backed green energy companies.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Mexico; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: border; cain; electric; fence; genius; hermancain; illegalaliens; knowsnato; larazarick; openbordersperry; panderperry; perrybotsattack; romneyperry2012
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1 posted on 10/15/2011 6:06:24 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: shield

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2 posted on 10/15/2011 6:07:16 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Pan_Yan

look at the pic in the first post :)


3 posted on 10/15/2011 6:08:39 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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4 posted on 10/15/2011 6:12:32 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: smoothsailing

Plan number one sounds pretty good to me. Drill, baby, drill. Mine, baby, mine. Cut, baby, cut!!


5 posted on 10/15/2011 6:13:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: smoothsailing

6 posted on 10/15/2011 6:16:00 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: smoothsailing

come on Cain is just making the point that you can’t be afraid to use whatever means you have at your disposal to secure the border.

i doubt he literally intends to build a continent wide electrical fence.


7 posted on 10/15/2011 6:22:36 PM PDT by exist
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To: smoothsailing

Near Clausthal Zellerfeld, West Germany, I saw a fence like the one Cain wants, in 1982.


8 posted on 10/15/2011 6:22:57 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Jim Robinson

Best I’ve heard yet!!! :)


9 posted on 10/15/2011 6:23:02 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
I'm not sure that Cain's idea is precisely the right way to go, but at least he wants a secure border. I support that. We can work out implementation details sometime in 2013.

Perry, on the other hand, doesn't seem to want to go there at all.

10 posted on 10/15/2011 6:23:36 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I won't vote for Romney. I won't vote for Perry.)
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To: shield

So what is the plan to get Perry over 10% in the polls?


11 posted on 10/15/2011 6:23:43 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: smoothsailing

I am liking the energy President, Mr. Perry. More money is will be sent to him! We need to develop our resources and I don’t care what anybody else says but I do know that IT’S THE SPENDING STUPID! .....and We definitely don’t need a national sales tax......


12 posted on 10/15/2011 6:24:00 PM PDT by lahargis
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To: Allegra

LOL!


13 posted on 10/15/2011 6:24:18 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Omigosh. Cain proposes a fence that would kill people trying to cross over.

I guess there are people around here who would be fine with that.

Cain should never have said that aloud. Never.

He would never get 30% of the black vote and now, he may get zero percent of the Mexican vote.


14 posted on 10/15/2011 6:24:43 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: smoothsailing

I hope Perry can get some mojo back with his energy plan.

I like Cain but he has no cash to beat Romney. Perry is the only one that stands between Romney and the nomination.


15 posted on 10/15/2011 6:25:01 PM PDT by nhwingut (Draft Palin '12... For 3rd Party Run)
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To: Jim Robinson
Plan number one sounds pretty good to me. Drill, baby, drill. Mine, baby, mine. Cut, baby, cut!!

Amen!
16 posted on 10/15/2011 6:26:07 PM PDT by lahargis
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To: smoothsailing

Love it! Love it! Love it!

I was looking for a picture of an electric fence in the middle of the Rio Grande River, but the one you have will do just fine!


17 posted on 10/15/2011 6:26:32 PM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving so many whoppers.)
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To: smoothsailing

“Before we assume that Herman Cain’s suggestion will cause Democrats or even select Republicans to throw even more scorn in his direction, I’d suggest this: Cain could win over many of them simply by saying that in his border plan, the fence would be electrified with power provided by solar panels the government purchased from stimulus-backed green energy companies.”

Good one. lol


18 posted on 10/15/2011 6:26:37 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: FlyingEagle

I’m glad you were seeing it from the West German side.


19 posted on 10/15/2011 6:27:29 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I’d like to trace these proposals to the original speeches.

This creates a grand opening for Rand Paul who for a while has been preaching that any fence that can keep Mexicans out can also keep Americans in. The fence would not care if you are coming or going, or for that matter if you’re a migratory critter (EPA will probably throw a giant monkey wrench at this one). I expect it’s not too long before this gets toned back to “one in a list of possibilities.”


20 posted on 10/15/2011 6:28:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: ClearCase_guy

How can you say that Perry doesn’t want to go there?

Perry has spent tons of Texas money. He’s pleaded for a little help from Washington. Obama hates Perry and he hates Texas. He wouldn’t give us a dime for border control.

Perry has a plan. Unfortunately, it doesn’t involve an electrified fence that would kill people trying to cross.

It is a multi-faceted plan, involving some fencing, modern technology, drones and boots on the border.

Cain’s plans are so simple. 9-9-9 Zap the intruders.

Does he even have a clue?


21 posted on 10/15/2011 6:28:59 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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22 posted on 10/15/2011 6:30:54 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! Compiling New Sarah Palin Ping List! Tell me if you want on it!)
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To: altura

It was a boneheaded thing to say if you want to appeal to a wide base of support, that’s for sure. He’s scheduled to be on Meet The Press tomorrow, he’s bound to be asked about it.


23 posted on 10/15/2011 6:31:29 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: altura

To be a devil’s advocate, can a kinder gentler Perry fence be everywhere and catch everybody, at least those who do not approach with sophisticated tools? Would Perry be comfortable with human-operated robo-guns?


24 posted on 10/15/2011 6:31:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: smoothsailing
I support drill drill drill... jobs jobs jobs... Perry... Perry... Perry... and to the Feds I say, secure the freaking border... NOW!

No to, electrify, electrify, electrify.

Yes to more fences, more BP agents and more high tech hardware.

25 posted on 10/15/2011 6:31:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: smoothsailing
Electrifying it is only a temporary solutino. I'm more in favor of these.


26 posted on 10/15/2011 6:31:51 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: exist

If you say so.

But that ain’t what he said.


27 posted on 10/15/2011 6:32:14 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura
I'm sure Perry has a plan, but I have seen him scoff at the idea of a wall on the border on more than one occasion. He seems to think that it cannot be done.

If Perry actually wants a combined approach: a wall and boots on the ground, then I will give him credit for that. But from what I have seen, he talks about boots on the ground a lot, and a wall very little.

28 posted on 10/15/2011 6:32:53 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I won't vote for Romney. I won't vote for Perry.)
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To: smoothsailing

Before the hubbub starts, I’d sure like to know what he originally said, and if that was his idea for the whole darn thing or just parts of it or just tossed out for consideration? We’ve been through this kind of brouhaha before.


29 posted on 10/15/2011 6:33:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: altura

“Omigosh. Cain proposes a fence that would kill people trying to cross over. I guess there are people around here who would be fine with that.”

I would be one of those people who are “fine with that”. All I have to do is consider what the Founding Fathers, signers of the Declaration Of Independence, and war veterans lost — up to an including their lives. The illegals crossing over have no regard or respect for this country.


30 posted on 10/15/2011 6:33:46 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: smoothsailing
It's not Drill Drill Drill for Perry, it's LIE LIE LIE

> Who did the GOP Establishment push into the race after it seem Tea Party heroine Bachmann was going to upset Romney’s ride to the nomination?

Who does the GOP Establishment see as their back up card if Romney fails?

Who has long standing intimate ties with the Liberal wing of the GOP Establishment?

The answer is Rick Perry.

Bill Kristol to a NY Time Reporter telling him how the GOP Establishment plans to deal with “the Tea party mutiny”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2792217/posts?page=3

Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] Bachmann’s brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny.

Wonder who Perry will be VP with?

Odd how that question never gets asked of Perry.

Could it be because everyone knows Perry is the GOP Establishment mole in the race to split the Tea Party/Conservative vote and hand the nomination to Romney?

Could it be because they know the ticket the GOP Machine is setting up is “Romney/Perry 2012? Think about it. Romney has the money, Perry has the idolatrous worship from the social Conservatives.

Could that be why the Perry camp is knowingly lying about Cain’s solidly Conservative record on both social and fiscal issues? Because they know full well Perry’s record can not stand close scrutiny?

What does anyone really know about Perry other then the nice words and platitudes he puts in his speeches? Looks like Perry is just Bush 3.0 another tough talking social conservative who will go to DC and be yet another good little GOP crony capitalist water boy.

31 posted on 10/15/2011 6:33:46 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am so for this drill, baby, drill thing.

Think of what it would do for us.

Create tons of jobs.

Free us from dependence on the middle east. I would love for those countries to have to peddle sand.

Lower energy costs.

There’s just no downside.


32 posted on 10/15/2011 6:34:05 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This creates a grand opening for Rand Paul

Rand Paul did not say that, Ron Paul did.

33 posted on 10/15/2011 6:35:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Reagan Man

Also, given that Mexico isn’t a prison yard, getting resources to sabotage these fences would not be all that hard. Basically some kind of good ground and a cable.


34 posted on 10/15/2011 6:35:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: MNJohnnie

Ok, ok, Ron Paul


35 posted on 10/15/2011 6:36:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: MNJohnnie

Herman Cain has a empowerment (entitlement) zone written into his 999 plan? RINO all the way if you ask me! How is that conservative?


36 posted on 10/15/2011 6:36:30 PM PDT by lahargis
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To: ClearCase_guy

He scoffs because, well, he lives in Texas. He’s actually been to the border. He’s seen the border.

Has Cain seen it?

Has Romney seen it?

He dismisses the idea of saying, ‘build a fence,’ because it’s far more complicated than that.

That doesn’t mean he dismisses the idea of securing the border. That’s a big leap for you to make.

Of course, we could put out land mines.


37 posted on 10/15/2011 6:36:53 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: smoothsailing

38 posted on 10/15/2011 6:37:13 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: altura

“Does he even have a clue?”

More so than Perry who likes giving illegal alien kids in-state tuition which only encourages MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS!


39 posted on 10/15/2011 6:38:40 PM PDT by Castigar
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To: MNJohnnie

Perry is the energy Presidential candidate and that is what we need! Cain is the 999 gimmicky tax Presidential candidate with empowerment (entitlement) zones! Not what we need right now!


40 posted on 10/15/2011 6:38:40 PM PDT by lahargis
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To: MayflowerMadam

You may regret making that post when you wake up sober in the morning.


41 posted on 10/15/2011 6:38:42 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: smoothsailing

No elected president would build a fence across that huge distance. All that money spent, and they’d just dig under it. Perry is just being honest about it.


42 posted on 10/15/2011 6:38:55 PM PDT by independent in tx
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To: altura
I am so for this drill, baby, drill thing. Think of what it would do for us. Create tons of jobs. Free us from dependence on the middle east. I would love for those countries to have to peddle sand. Lower energy costs. There’s just no downside.

Amen!
43 posted on 10/15/2011 6:39:49 PM PDT by lahargis
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To: altura

What happens, like clockwork, is that when OPEC gets wind of serious US oil production, they cut OPEC’s price down, down, down. This cheapens world oil to the point that all the oil production in the US is stalled. Some kind of subsidized drilling would really be needed, so that OPEC cannot bust it out of existence and it would be ready to go when the SHTF in the middle east.


44 posted on 10/15/2011 6:40:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Castigar

Could you please get over that. It’s been explained over and over again. The entire cost is negligible. It was passed 11 years ago by an almost unanimous bi-partisan legislature.

If that’s all you got, get out of the way.

Oh, and electrify a fence.


45 posted on 10/15/2011 6:40:51 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: altura

Overall then, you would say that Perry is the strongest and most serious candidate on the issue of dealing with illegal immigration?


46 posted on 10/15/2011 6:41:08 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I won't vote for Romney. I won't vote for Perry.)
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To: altura

He regrets nothing. Same for #26.

About 9-10 years ago I posted a reply in jest saying that we should put machine guns on the border. That post was pulled, immediately.


47 posted on 10/15/2011 6:41:32 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: smoothsailing

Oh gag me. Drill drill drill but don’t be heartless.


48 posted on 10/15/2011 6:41:59 PM PDT by TheZMan (Just secede and get it over with. No love lost on either side. Cya.)
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To: smoothsailing

Perry would say drill, drill, drill. Just as both Palin and Cain have already said. And that would be great, great, great for jobs. I’m glad to see Perry join the Cain train on energy.

But unfortunately for Mr. Perry, he would have those jobs, jobs, jobs, go to illegal, illegal, illegals. I am one who would have no problem with putting troops with live ammunition on the border assisted by electrified fence to make sure that does not happen.

Perry’s welcoming arms will only bring in more illegals, terrorists, and drug cartels. Cain’s open use of arms will seriously deter them. It is great that someone finally realizes our border is not a joke. Ricky La Raza could learn something from Herman Cain.


49 posted on 10/15/2011 6:42:25 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: independent in tx

People would rather hear flim flam than honesty.

30 foot fence, 31 foot ladders or tunnels.

It’s gonna take something more sophisticated.

Or you could go simple, electric fence (kinda hard across the Big River, but we’ll work that out later) and land mines.


50 posted on 10/15/2011 6:43:23 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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