Skip to comments.Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals
Posted on 10/16/2011 1:30:18 AM PDT by Watchdog85
Claim unfair to be stigmatized for sexual orientation
by Jack Minor
Using the same tactics used by gay rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.
Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an alternative lifestyle or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. Gay advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.
In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.
B4U-Act calls pedophiles minor-attracted people. The organization's website states its purpose is to, help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.
In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming that the negative potential of adult sex with children was overstated and that the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.
Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists sexual orientation as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.
Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that pedophilia is not covered as an orientation; however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these philias and fetishes and isms that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.
The White House praised the bill saying, At root, this isn't just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another -- whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.
Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.
Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, "Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality."
He went on to say, "True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this persons sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent."
When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied, "If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.
Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles' sexual interests prefer children and, "There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else."
In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges."
Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. Its all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.
Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, "Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children."
Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The IASHS openly advocated for the repeal of the Revolutionary war ban on homosexuals serving in the military.
The IASHS lists, on its website, a list of "basic sexual rights" that includes "the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud." Another right is to, "be free of persecution, condemnation, discrimination, or societal intervention in private sexual behavior" and "the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire." The organization also says that no one should be "disadvantaged because of age."
Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks are unfair because it penalizes them for life.
I’m surprised that bestiality wasn’t pushed before this. Even the left (thanks to controversies over Catholic priest misconduct) is firmly against pedophilia. ASPCA would be easier to push over.
Of course they want the law to be changed so that boy of 12 and over can legally have sex...they are part of the gay agenda. Never was kicked out of the movement...
Pedophiles have the right to rot in prison, if they’re lucky, and nothing else. I have absolutely no tolerance whatsoever for child molesters, will take no pity on them, and hope that they get what they have coming to them.
I’m Irish. I like whiskey. It’s genetic, I can’t help it.
I demand free whiskey, it’s my right.
Every age attempts to put an addendum onto the bible to nominate some sin in addition to the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit as the unforgivable sin.
BUMP a great thread title.
You have the right to expect the following:
You will be chained by your hands and legs, then pulled up four flights of metal fire escape stairs, feet first.
Then you will be kicked in the family jewels just enough to cause a stomach ache every 15 minutes for 8 hours.
After that, you will be pushed out a window so as to fall four stories into a pile of razor wire 5 rolls high and 5 rolls wide.
You will lay in the pile of razor wire for two days in the desert sun and then I would release a flock of crows and 1 gallon of scarabs right next to you.
But thats just me.
Something tells me that someone discovered exercising their perceived right to molest children may develop a case of local lead poisoning. Just a feeling.
How about they all get out there and march for their rights so we can get a good look at them.
Not saying anything beyond that so I can maintain an alibi.
Doesn’t the Bible say something about it being better to have a millstone tied around the neck and be flung into thesea, than to harm a child?
You’re right, of course.....and they’ll need some cutesy new tag (like “gay” instead of “homosexual”). I think they’ll go for....”animal lovers”.
Doesn’t the Bible say there is only one unforgivable sin?
Pervert alert ping.
And who didn’t see this coming!
Wow. I never saw this coming. /sar Give and inch. Take a mile. Let me put my foot in the door and I’ll kick it open.
Already got that. It's quite impossible to criminalize thought. If you keep your mouth shut about what you're thinking.
I know I do.
Labels are important. In the past people with the “alternative lifestyle” of “dead people-attracted people” (DPAP) were called necrophiliacs. Even necrophiliacs mistakenly described themselves as necrophiliacs during Necrophilia Pride Parades. It is time to stamp out the prejudice against this victimless alternative lifestyle. Eventually the APA will come out against the real disease that is threatening our society: heterosexuality. We have “progressed” so far that some people may not recognize sarcasm when it should be obvious. My apologies.
The APA continues to go into the abyss. Every couple of years they update the DSM to “disorder” simple bad behavior and give a pass to evil behavior. (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is published by the American Psychiatric Association and provides a common language and standard criteria for the classification of mental disorders.)
Next time you are in a book store spend an hour flipping through the DSM IV TR. It is a window into why our culture is degrading.
My husband, a successful man, would be put on heavy medication if he were a child today—simply because he behaved like a male when he was a kid. That’s it in a nutshell—typical male/female NORMAL HUMAN BEHAVIOR is now looked at as “disordered” and EVIL behavior is “life style choice”.
The instinct to protect your child is going to be a hard one for these creeps to wear away at...but here they go...making a huge inroad.
We live in a sorry state of affairs. It is disheartening, to say the least.
In 74 we warned this would happen when the APA in a STUPID political move dropped homosexuality from the DSM as deviant behavior- but the papertrained stuffed suits knew how to deal with those Moral and Religious types and the poo pooed all over our reasoned speculation. When the US supreme Court decided in a STUPID and unconstitutional act to side with the enemy in Lawrence v. Texas-and without just cause tossed a
previously decided Law— Justice Scalia wrote of the reasonable consequences. But the demigods of the oligarchy of despots knew how to handle such Moral ,and Religious opposition— So the slide down the talus slope into treacherous waters continues.The national sin for which Providence is now punishing America is far worse than the national sin known as the African slave trade that motivated the response I am reflecting For we have not merely “Forgotten God” as President Lincoln would note during the dark days of our Civil War. We have allowed the nation to reject God. And have allowed our fellow Americans stand with their fist in the face of the God that made us.May God have mercy on this stiff necked and rebellious people.
Down the slippery slope we go...
I think of that every time I see a professed Christian type the words, "may he burn in hell".
Child sex abuse is a heinous crime and deserves harsh punishment on this earth but I don't wish anyone an eternity in hell.
Just remember, it wasn’t that long ago and the world was against public homosexuality.
The left has so destroyed the concept of morality that many will accept it will very little pressure. They are now using the same techniques for pedophilia as they did with homosexuality. They are placing pedophiles in high level positions in psychiatric fields to force normalcy. It has happened in several countries in Europe and it will happen here. Just do a search on the age of consent differences for heterosexuals vs homosexuals. In many cases the homosexual age of consent is years younger than for heteros.
Our country?? The UN has been supporting 14 as the age of consent for homos for a very long time.
Molesting the young and the dead, abortion etc... A democrate’s symbolical dream of molesting tax payers for their work and earnings... government approved. Taxation without representation and pedophilia are all the hand in hand rage of these days of the “fun TV” generation.
We are all socialists now, according to NewsWeek.
It’s the new age “feelings are so important not to hurt” psychology. The “boobs made me do it” type Shariah honor killing is coming.
“Using the same tactics used by gay rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.”
The first step was getting the APA on board. Pointing that out is what cost Dr. Laura most of her career. Even Rush kept clear of it. Just a couple of months ago, even on this site, there were people siding the pedeo bunch.
So, it has started.
The only ones fooled are again and again the American people. I don’t know if it is ignorance or malevolence.
Didn’t the American people also turn against Anita Bryant over this? They always seem to get it wrong.
Remember too that many, many of the American people under 68 years of age have a sexual libertine viewpoint based from their teen and early adult years.
Remove pedophilia from DSM-V. It’s for the children.
It may be a forgiveable sin, but ALL sin has consequenses, and crime against children is one that was pointed out as particularly heinous.
If it is against one of my grandchildren, the pervert had better make his peace with God before I find him. I will take my chances with the Earthly law, as well as Divine Law.
As far as I am concerned the only thing a child molester deserves is a bullet to the head, followed by a trip to the dump.
This may seem harsh to some pansy feelings, but I have worked with some of these children and seen first hand the damage done to them.
You take your chances with divine law, you end up loser period.
Where’s that vigilante spirit when it comes to abortionists, by the way? Surely killing an innocent child is worse than molesting that child.
Forgivable if the sinner is truly repentent and changes his life. If true, heartfelt, deep repentence is not there, he is not forgiven, and evidence is that his life doesn’t change.
Mercy to the cruel is cruelty to the innocent.
I’m all for giving them the same rights.....if we can cut their peckers off flush....
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I’m sure the degenerates on the left will be happy to oblige.
That's on the docket, I'm sure.
Like we couldn't see this one coming......
Don’t know what you go by but I go by the Bible. There’s not a whole lot in there about feelings, and what there is, is always a consequence of an action.