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Raisin' [a Few Issues for the Purpose of Honestly Vetting Herman] Cain!
The American Thinker ^ | October 16, 2011 | Joseph Ashby

Posted on 10/16/2011 2:32:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

"I'm the only problem-solver in the group," Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain told Mike Huckabee in an August Fox News appearance. Well, many candidates bill themselves as problem-solvers. In fact, if we asked any candidate running for any office in the entire country, practically every one would likely define him- or herself as able to solve problems. Yet we know that politicians, as a rule, create and worsen problems rather than fix them.

.....Overconfidence turns the hopeful campaign pronouncements of otherwise successful people into dismal policy. In the end, Americans usually end up with more laws, less freedom, and no money.

The question is what type of problem-solver Cain will be as president......

Examining Herman Cain's record leaves serious questions about which type of problem-solver he is. In a column published October 20, 2008, Cain blamed conservatives' "economic illiteracy" for their opposition to the freshly passed Trouble Assets Relief Program.

"Wake up people!" admonished Cain with typical candor. "Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem." Cain goes on to defend Treasury's decision to post-legislatively change TARP to buy preferred stock in banks rather than toxic mortgages. "You got a problem with that?" asks Cain. Apparently he didn't.

Cain reassures "free market purists" that the Treasury's stock purchase is "not nationalization because that would require government to own at least 51% of the entity for an indefinite period of time." (This is a relief, because some of us thought that government would use this foot in the door to force mergers, control salaries, and set lending rules. Oh, wait...)...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; freemarket; gopprimary; nationalbooktour; vetting
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To: Watchdog85

Thank you. I could only go by the dates on the comments beneath it. Was this video widely circulated?


41 posted on 10/16/2011 3:58:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Watchdog85
“Cain stated on Huckabee Saturday that Social Security would not count as income tax and there would be no tax on any savings plans including 401k’s.”

That isn't in his ‘plan’ website that you just posted.

He loses all cred when his words don't match what he wrote in his ‘plan’, which he defends as ‘well thought out’.

42 posted on 10/16/2011 3:59:09 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: mylife

Do you support the Fair or Flat Tax or do you prefer the current system?


43 posted on 10/16/2011 4:00:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: Beagle8U
Care to point that out in the ‘plan’ on his website?

I read it and it says nothing of the kind.

There are no plans whatsoever on Rick Perry's site.

I don't think Rick Perry is capable of understanding economics.

He has been an utter imbecile on the debates. It was embarrassing during the last debate -- the one where everyone was supposed to talk about their economic plans. When they asked Perry if he had any details about his plans, he said -- like a bad student who didn't get his term paper done on time -- no, but promised he would turn one in soon. Then he all he came up with was a vague energy plan with no details, that every other candidate had already espoused.

Rick Perry is an imbecile. I don't think he's capable of thinking on his own.

His high-priced handlers and consultants won't let him speak unless they craft his words and he thoroughly rehearses them. It's weird that they don't let him go on any cable television political shows to speak. They think he's too stupid to answer questions on his own.

Rick Perry is nothing but a vacuous Ken-doll.

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44 posted on 10/16/2011 4:01:38 AM PDT by bobk333
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To: bobk333
This thread isn't about Governor Perry's economic plan, nice attempt to deflect though.
45 posted on 10/16/2011 4:03:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: mylife

I hate to keep repeating myself but back to my first question. Unless that money is stashed away some where I suspect it’s in an account and hopefully one that interest bearing. Right now that interest is subject to tax where in his plan it seems to be tax free until spent. Having that interest tax exempt would be a good thing in my opinion.


46 posted on 10/16/2011 4:09:08 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Puddleglum
I agree. I like Mr. Cain, a lot. I like his personal story. I ALWAYS like people that take life as they find it and work hard to succeed.

That said....I want him vetted thoroughly. I don't want the Tea Party to give him even the slightest pass for his race...just as I don't want anybody using race AGAINST him as the Left seems to do ALL THE TIME.

I will say, he made me pull back in full support when he had that conversation with Wallace—about the right of return. Big red flag for me. I think Mr. Cain is the right man for the job re: the American economy—but world events are complex and frightening. That “I” knew more about the most sensitive issue in the middle east than he did (at that moment)....well...He's got to REALLY impress me in the next debates on this topic and all national security issues.

Any of the republicans running would be a relief after the Golden Child. I'll wait until all the debates are held and see who is left standing. I hope it's Cain, ‘cause, like I said, I admire his personal story. But that is not the reason to vote for the POTUS.

47 posted on 10/16/2011 4:13:03 AM PDT by Pigsley
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To: org.whodat
This Letter that Harry Reid touts?

The letter that urges action but does not define it?

Now, you act as if Perry was the actor who was the precedent of the fiscal crisis.

Next you will tell me that Parry was the very architect of the crisis and then you will tell me he is a rude and cant string 3 words together.

48 posted on 10/16/2011 4:13:36 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He said he supported TARP. it was the WAY THEY SPENT IT that he disagrees with.
I have to agree. It went to prop up unions and states and his bestest friends for a year.
Now what. They are back for handouts again.


49 posted on 10/16/2011 4:14:19 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I like a flat tax but I see no way of it ever getting passed in congress.


50 posted on 10/16/2011 4:15:40 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Dusty Road

If the monies have already been taxed How is an additional 9% tax a good plan?


51 posted on 10/16/2011 4:18:27 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: bobk333
It’s a really stupid way to support a candidate.

Kind of like calling anyone who refuses to fawn over her a "PDS Troll"?

Stupid like that?

52 posted on 10/16/2011 4:18:39 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Watchdog85
Your wasting your time with these Perrywinkles.

The OP posts numerous pro Perry threads per day w/cult-ish Perry followers chiming in.

They don't want an honest conversation or vetting. They really want to tear down any candidate that has better ideas (even one idea beats Perry's "I'll get back to you" non ideas) and is ahead of Perry in the polls.

53 posted on 10/16/2011 4:26:47 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Heartless4Cain.......)
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To: bobk333
This sounds better to me than 999.

Rick Perry Phase One

54 posted on 10/16/2011 4:28:52 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“If the monies have already been taxed How is an additional 9% tax a good plan?”

Hell you ought to be in my boots. As a 25% stockholder in the company I work for I get hit with a corporation tax an income tax and a capital gains tax, all on the same money. The plan will definitly benifit me, but your question needs to be addressed. But at this point and time it looks like that money will be taxed at 9% depending on how it’s spent.


55 posted on 10/16/2011 4:30:12 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: CAluvdubya

Ignore us at your Perrywinkle


56 posted on 10/16/2011 4:30:28 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
You have the same communication problem as cat whipped perry, you cannot communicate. The record is what it is, all the spin you perrywinkles throw out has not changed that. Old career politician, king of cronyism, bought and paid for illegal hugger, Perry is still the same person. Now at 2% and still going down.
57 posted on 10/16/2011 4:34:19 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: mylife

You’re amusing....


58 posted on 10/16/2011 4:35:40 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Heartless4Cain.......)
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To: bobk333

A ken doll that runs on d cell batteries, and has a whipping button. LOL


59 posted on 10/16/2011 4:37:27 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: All
MFers, that clip was deliberately edited to make him sound simple.

Here is the full speech.

Rick Perry in Pittsburgh

60 posted on 10/16/2011 4:37:48 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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