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EPA: California waters show widespread pollution ("problem worse than we thought it was.")
SFGate.com ^ | 10/16/11 | Pete Fimrite

Posted on 10/16/2011 9:21:54 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Those bracing dips in the local lake or river may not be as healthy as they were cracked up to be judging by a new list of polluted waterways released last week by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

Recent tests have found more toxic material, bacteria and pollution in California rivers, streams, bays and lakes than has ever been documented before, according to the federal agency. The study shows a 170 percent increase in the number of waterways showing toxicity in 2010 compared with 2006, the last time the study was done. Less than half of the state's lakes, bays and estuaries are meeting water quality standards. "Unfortunately, the grade is not getting better. It's getting worse. At the moment it is a failing grade," said Jared Blumenfeld, the administrator for the EPA's Pacific Southwest region. ..

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The list was compiled using 22,000 data submissions from counties, cities and the various regional water quality control boards. That's substantially more information than was available in 2006, Blumenfeld said. The sheer amount of data is probably one reason for the increase, ..

The study showed that EPA water quality standards are not being met on 1.6 million acres of California's 3 million acres of lakes, bays, wetlands and estuaries. Federally mandated cleanup plans have not been submitted for 1.4 million acres, according to the report.

The EPA study also showed that 30,000 of the state's 215,000 miles of shoreline, streams and rivers do not meet the water quality goals. Cleanup plans still need to be prepared for 20,000 of those miles, according to the report.

Pesticides and bacteria were the most common pollutants found in the waterways followed by metals and too many nutrients, mostly from runoff.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cleanwateract; epa; pollution; waters; widespread

1 posted on 10/16/2011 9:21:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Uh Oh, I sense yet another crisis is about to not be wasted!


2 posted on 10/16/2011 9:26:07 AM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / The democrat party "Can Go Straight To Hell".)
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To: NormsRevenge
How conveeeeeeeenient.

What's it going to take to bring all this water up to EPA's lofty standards? Oh. I know. How about money?

Yo, EPA, how much money do you suppose it will take to get all that nasty salt out of the ocean?

And how come you don't list fish urine and feces as one of the pollutants common in today's rivers and streams?

How much will it cost to construct billions of little fish bathrooms?

Idiots.

3 posted on 10/16/2011 9:26:30 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well what do you expect when you turn a beautiful state into a third world cesspool.


4 posted on 10/16/2011 9:26:33 AM PDT by marty60
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To: NormsRevenge

Send the illegals home....and voila....


5 posted on 10/16/2011 9:26:48 AM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: NormsRevenge

well I for one am NOT surprised. with all the dirty diapers and other waste being dumped into our lakes and streams. not to mention the increase of population from ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION being dumped on this state.


6 posted on 10/16/2011 9:27:23 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: ArchAngel1983

Uh Oh, I sense yet another crisis is about to not be wasted!


You beat me to it!


7 posted on 10/16/2011 9:28:18 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: marty60
That's just the thing. The rivers and streams and lakes here in California are nowhere near as bad as The EPA wants people to believe.

Of course there's bacteria in lakes and rivers. That's where fish shit and pee.

Of course there are metals in rivers and streams. Some people refer to it as gold.

And nutrients? Nutrients are now a pollutant?

This is one seriesly hugh scam to get people to voluntarily separate themselves from their hard-earned (or soft-earned for millions of Californians) money.

Well, I guess that's better than the alternative.

We can separate ourselves from our money voluntarily or they will think of ways to make us separate ourselves from our money.

8 posted on 10/16/2011 9:31:11 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: NormsRevenge

omG!

dire.

/s


9 posted on 10/16/2011 9:32:28 AM PDT by ken21
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To: television is just wrong

And that is something they never blame. We have a man made lake here that was built to be used by swimmers and jetskis. Don’t know how many times it has been shut down because of human waste in it. Illegals have taken it over and change their baby diapers in it.
They turn everywhere they go into a third world hellhole.


10 posted on 10/16/2011 9:32:43 AM PDT by sheana
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s those evil capitalists. How convenient, timed to coincide with the OWS.


11 posted on 10/16/2011 9:34:09 AM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Its at least 100 billion times worse than we thought it was!!!!!

Still wanna cut our funding?


12 posted on 10/16/2011 9:36:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: Texas Eagle

Oh the EPA has a great chance to turn California into the utopian Fascist state they so dream of. Which BTW really po’s me. I grew up in California and loved every minute. Would not live there today.
I found my home in 85.

I was really being sarcastic about the issue. This is nothing more than a political power play that Jerry Brown will welcome.


13 posted on 10/16/2011 9:38:33 AM PDT by marty60
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To: sheana
We have a man made lake here that was built to be used by swimmers and jetskis. Don’t know how many times it has been shut down because of human waste in it. Illegals have taken it over and change their baby diapers in it.

That's what you do when you don't want the hassle of hauling them dirty to where you an wash them. It's the easily available modern substitute for banging the laundry rocks by the side of the river.

14 posted on 10/16/2011 9:40:07 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: NormsRevenge
UN Agenda 21 is the solution.

We need to reduce the population of the earth to a "sustainable" 500-million immediately.

I suggest we start with all United Nations officials and employees, and all elected government officials and government employees.

It's the fair thing to do, since it's their idea.

15 posted on 10/16/2011 9:42:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: NormsRevenge
Of course, and I bet it is global warming that caused the polution. We must increase our enviro regs 10 fold immediately or all die from polluted water./Sar

The EPA evidently senses they are on their last legs if a Conservative President and congress are elected and are trying to get all the new rule changes in while they can.

One more big scare in order to keep the people in line.

16 posted on 10/16/2011 9:42:33 AM PDT by calex59
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To: NormsRevenge

The politicians and bureaucrats are doing the same thing with “pollution” that they do with autism - - lowering the standards for what constitutes it so they can keep crying for more money to “solve” the “growing problem”.


17 posted on 10/16/2011 9:42:44 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge
Attention all you productive people living in California, grab all your wealth, quit your job, and get the hell out of California NOW!

It appears that if you don't, death is just around the corner!

18 posted on 10/16/2011 9:44:29 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: calex59

The Ecotards say my congressman is going to kill 140,000 people over the next 7 years.

http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/15875


19 posted on 10/16/2011 9:44:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

ummm they are not using cloth diapers, they are disposables. Instead of changing the baby and throwing them into the many available trash cans, they take the baby to the lake, strip it, wash its butt in the water and leave the diapers floating in the lake.


20 posted on 10/16/2011 9:45:48 AM PDT by sheana
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To: cripplecreek
Its at least 100 billion times worse than we thought it was!!!!!

Still wanna cut our funding?

Yes, for the spending problem is at least 100,000 gazillion times worse than this problem!

21 posted on 10/16/2011 9:47:38 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We need to reduce the population of the earth to a "sustainable" 500-million immediately.

Start with dimocrats.

22 posted on 10/16/2011 9:49:12 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NormsRevenge
170 percent increase in the number of waterways showing toxicity in 2010 compared with 2006

They have to be right. The economy was just booming in California throughout the 2000s and businesses were expanding here like crazy. Everywhere you turn, there is new construction and new factories are popping up everywhere. Agriculture has expanded due to relaxed regulations; water is plentiful for Central Valley farms and they are all green and lush with crops.

NOT!

Quite the opposite, naturally. People and companies are fleeing the state, industries are leaving, and the feds shut down much of our agriculture to save fish. What a BS article -- it's just another excuse to clamp down with even more outrageous regulatory strangleholds on our lives.

23 posted on 10/16/2011 9:50:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
UN Agenda 21 is the solution.

Since you brought it up. One of our local radio stations is going to be interviewing a lady by the name of Rosa Corey (sp?) and they will be discussing Agenda 21 from 2:00 to 3:00 Pacific Time.

You can watch it here at this link MySYtv.com or watch it afterwards. I'm pretty sure it will be archived.

If it's not on the front page, click on the facebook link and type and look for the EdTalk link.

I'm sure it will be on the front page as it's airing live.

24 posted on 10/16/2011 9:51:42 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: NormsRevenge

Don’t worry, Ricardo Perry is going to suspend the Clean Air and Endangered Species Acts and dismantle the Environmental Protection Agency. No hey problemo.

(That’s sarcasm, I say, sarcasm, son!)


25 posted on 10/16/2011 9:53:04 AM PDT by Southern Magnolia
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
UN Agenda 21 is the solution.

Since you brought it up. One of our local radio stations is going to be interviewing a lady by the name of Rosa Corey (sp?) and they will be discussing Agenda 21 from 2:00 to 3:00 Pacific Time.

You can watch it here at this link MySYtv.com or watch it afterwards. I'm pretty sure it will be archived.

If it's not on the front page, click on the facebook link and type and look for the EdTalk link.

I'm sure it will be on the front page as it's airing live.

26 posted on 10/16/2011 9:53:59 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

They can cut costs by making them unisex bathrooms....


27 posted on 10/16/2011 9:54:12 AM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life~)
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To: sheana

“ummm they are not using cloth diapers, they are disposables. Instead of changing the baby and throwing them into the many available trash cans, they take the baby to the lake, strip it, wash its butt in the water and leave the diapers floating in the lake.”

Yep, I’ve seen this also at a lake I frequent. Also tons of garbage the amount of which you simply wouldn’t believe. Really terrific to see after the park closes. These animals destroy everything they touch.


28 posted on 10/16/2011 10:02:30 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Uhhh, you don’t think that maybe 4 million illegal aliens with Third World health habits had anything to do with this?


29 posted on 10/16/2011 10:03:52 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: ArchAngel1983
Uh Oh, I sense yet another crisis is about to not be wasted!

Somewhere along the way, the comunists of the 20th century figured that fascism was a better route to socialism via property rights. IOW, instead of the govmint owning all the land, the govmint needs only to control all land. And, onerous environmental regulation was the path of least resistance to this end.

30 posted on 10/16/2011 10:11:26 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The unemployment problem only can be solved when Obama is unemployed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

They still have water in California?


31 posted on 10/16/2011 10:20:21 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: sheana

I have sen this in spades here on rivers in south Texas. I don’t begrudge illegals a day off and time to barbecue and swim on one of the rivers but I have seen baby diapers just thrown in the river, huge amounts of food waste left behind, and ad hoc toilets built out of steel drums that were just left there. When I and a friend arrived there were rats everywhere.

And in mexico as well, on a beautiful beach, I’ve seen mothers just throwing used baby diapers into the surf. It was incredible.


32 posted on 10/16/2011 10:30:03 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: NormsRevenge

So, the EPA said it and we’re supposed to believe it?

The EPA...with employees who got kicked out of the physics major, the chemistry major, engineering majors, and finally decided to get a “EPA Language major”?

The same employees who couldn’t get hired by a filling station to clean up spilled gasoline?

Oh, thought so.


33 posted on 10/16/2011 10:31:15 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: NormsRevenge
Environmental Propaganda Agency
34 posted on 10/16/2011 10:37:37 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: NormsRevenge

Has CO2 been detected since it is a pollutant now per the EPA?


35 posted on 10/16/2011 10:51:05 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I see no “parts per...” numbers in this article. I well remember these sorts of stories back in the early 70’s, they ALWAYS had ‘parts per...’ numbers. But that was back when air and water were pretty dirty. Nowadays you never see parts per... numbers. That's because the numbers they are measuring are idiotically tiny.
36 posted on 10/16/2011 11:12:50 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: ArchAngel1983
And yet they have no problem with aggressive pan handlers and meth addicts using pretty much all of San Francisco as an open toilet.

It seems the Left Wing mindset attracts a lot of people who have problems with clear, critical thinking. It also attracts a lot of people who simply bats**t crazy. Some times it's hard to tell the difference Of course this is just an observation of the people on the street who let politicians use these ridiculous justifications get away with these sorts of power grabs which are destroying our freedoms on a piece by piece basis and slowly asserting de facto dictatorial control over even the smallest details of our daily lives.

37 posted on 10/16/2011 11:28:34 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
People and companies are fleeing the state, industries are leaving, and the feds shut down much of our agriculture...

Behold the new CA economic base. With traditional businesses fleeing the state, this is the new industry - green, hip, fuelled by federal dollars. Think of it as DC West...

38 posted on 10/16/2011 12:10:55 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: sheana
ummm they are not using cloth diapers, they are disposables. Instead of changing the baby and throwing them into the many available trash cans, they take the baby to the lake, strip it, wash its butt in the water and leave the diapers floating in the lake.

Ewwwwwwww.

Selfish, and short-term oriented. That lake won't be good for long.

39 posted on 10/16/2011 12:31:04 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

They shut the lake down at least once every summer specifically for this reason. We have high temps here, sometimes 114 and above. Sewage breeds bacteria fast in that kind of environment.


40 posted on 10/16/2011 12:35:07 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

It is very likely that the epa has come up with new standards that are much tighter than before. It is a pattern that they have used for decades.


41 posted on 10/16/2011 1:54:56 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: ArchAngel1983; NormsRevenge
Who wants to bet that they'll use this as an excuse to shut down even more farms. The smelt was such a successful excuse for them the last time, they have to find something that makes it worse.
42 posted on 10/16/2011 2:09:49 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Texas Eagle
Sterilize all the rivers?= kills all the fish!
43 posted on 10/16/2011 2:10:36 PM PDT by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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To: painter

I wonder what would happen if all the other states surrounding CA stopped selling WATER to these morons. Let the CA politicians figure that out . . . NOT.


44 posted on 10/16/2011 11:11:37 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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