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'World News' Political Insights: Money Race Points to Two-Man GOP Race (Romney, Perry)
ABC News ^ | Oct 16, 2011 | RICK KLEIN

Posted on 10/16/2011 6:14:15 PM PDT by Clairity

Fundraising figures released over the weekend demonstrate that only two Republican candidates -- Mitt Romney and Rick Perry -- enter the dash to the nomination with both the financial support and the campaign infrastructure that equip them fully to compete.

And the Obama campaign -- eager to ensure that no candidates get free rides in the primaries -- has already begun making assumptions about whom President Obama is likely to face in the general election. That means Romney is coming under pressure from both sides, even as he seeks to consolidate Republican support early in the process.

Before we get there, Romney and Perry remain the frontrunners for the nomination. One of them remains overwhelmingly likely to secure the GOP nod.

The other candidates -- led by Herman Cain, whose burst in the polls has been the story of the last week -- have nowhere near the combination of fundraising muscle and on-the-ground activists that Perry and Romney have.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
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As anyone can see, if you don't support Perry, you will get Romney. And if Romney is the GOP nominee, you will get Obama.

This is not "wishful thinking", this is reality.

1 posted on 10/16/2011 6:14:21 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: shield

Perry ping


2 posted on 10/16/2011 6:14:52 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

Exactly


3 posted on 10/16/2011 6:17:20 PM PDT by NYC-Conserv (Rush: Perry the ONLY conservative threat to Romney)
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To: Clairity

We got a little insight into Mr. Cain’s foreign policy thinking on the NBC Meet the Press interview. He likes Kissinger and likes to read George Will and Krauthammer as his policy experts.


4 posted on 10/16/2011 6:18:56 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Clairity

I don’t care how much money either of these turds has, they ain’t getting my vote!


5 posted on 10/16/2011 6:20:04 PM PDT by festusbanjo (Herman Cain.The Un-Obama.Actual leadership,actual problem solving,actual experience.)
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To: Clairity

Money makes Satans world “dance”. We’ve had a taste and spit it out.

We don’t want it. Remember Sarah has ALWAYS been outspent in all her elections....didn’t mean squat.

It’s the message and how well they can relate it to the American voters.

The fact my boss brought up Cain to me was a shocker. If he is supporting Cain, that means there are many “insiders” doing the same.


6 posted on 10/16/2011 6:21:00 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Get ready for an aberration of historic proportions" - Herman Cain)
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To: NYC-Conserv
Here are all FEC campaign finance reports from ALL GOP candidates compared in a beautiful table.

P.S. It shows that Herman Cain has no money, but then again, the FEC doesn't require candidates to report revenue from a freakin' BOOK TOUR!!

Gig 'em Rick Perry 2012!

7 posted on 10/16/2011 6:21:59 PM PDT by bullypulpit (Go see The Rick Perry Report at http://rickperryreport.com/)
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To: Clairity
I see that the SCM is picking our candidates again...

I'll vote for the pub no matter what, but I would WORK for Cain or others...not sure about Romney....

its like we have no voice...the manipulation going on....

8 posted on 10/16/2011 6:22:31 PM PDT by cherry
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To: McGavin999

“likes to read George Will “

I wonder if he read this:

George Will: Cain not running, but ‘strolling’ for president

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2793619/posts


9 posted on 10/16/2011 6:25:16 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

Figures that ABC would force the two weak RINOs on the American public.

ABC covered up Obama's Moslem background.


10 posted on 10/16/2011 6:25:50 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Clairity

“As anyone can see, if you don’t support Perry, you will get Romney. And if Romney is the GOP nominee, you will get Obama.

This is not “wishful thinking”, this is reality. “

Lots of money is GREAT. So how does either of them go about buying my vote, or for that matter, buy any of the Tea Party votes? Are we supposed to just vote for one of them because they flash a wad of money?


11 posted on 10/16/2011 6:29:48 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: Clairity

Whatta ya mean??? - “as anyone can see”????
There’s this black dude - his name is Cain. He’s got virtually everything going for him except money. It’s not like he’s a smarmy wishy washy anti-gun pro-choice pro-illegal RINO. Guess you figure the primaries have to be bought. I don’t want to pick a candidate based on how little I have to hold my nose to vote for the guy. And I don’t thing the GOP braintrust has done such a great job in the past. Far as I’m concerned, both Perry and Romney supporters are way too comfortable with the washington status quo.


12 posted on 10/16/2011 6:30:10 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

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13 posted on 10/16/2011 6:31:33 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Clairity
As anyone can see, if you don't support Perry, you will get Romney. And if Romney is the GOP nominee, you will get Obama.

This is not "wishful thinking", this is reality.

Really? When did the primaries change from counting votes to dollars raised?

14 posted on 10/16/2011 6:31:52 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Clairity

“Fundraising figures released over the weekend demonstrate that only two Republican candidates — Mitt Romney and Rick Perry”

Well they obviously look at Cain as three fifths of a man.


15 posted on 10/16/2011 6:32:37 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: Interesting Times

“When did the primaries change from counting votes to dollars raised?”

There is a strong correlation between funds raised, organization on the ground and chances of winning.


16 posted on 10/16/2011 6:34:08 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity
If Perry and Romney pooled all their campaign cash and personal wealth, they still wouldn't have enough to buy my vote, yet Cain gets it for free.
17 posted on 10/16/2011 6:34:08 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: Graybeard58

It’s not YOUR vote they are after. They are going for the undecideds; not political junkies who are not familiar with the candidates and will only be reached through television. Candidates have to counter misinformation, promote themselves with soundbites, and get “top of the mind” awareness. Politics is marketing your message.

And that takes money. Lots of money.


18 posted on 10/16/2011 6:39:12 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Clairity

Still pimping that debunked talking point/false choice.


19 posted on 10/16/2011 6:39:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Clairity
There is a strong correlation between funds raised, organization on the ground and chances of winning.

If I was flogging a candidate who is down 15% in the polls despite raising lots of money, I'd probably focus on the money as well.

20 posted on 10/16/2011 6:40:06 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Clairity

Interesting article...


21 posted on 10/16/2011 6:43:39 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Clairity

I choose my candidate, not the MSM. Thanks for playing.


22 posted on 10/16/2011 6:43:58 PM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: magritte

“It’s not YOUR vote they are after. They are going for the undecideds; not political junkies who are not familiar with the candidates and will only be reached through television. Candidates have to counter misinformation, promote themselves with soundbites, and get “top of the mind” awareness. Politics is marketing your message.”

Well their money hasn’t been too effective yet. Cain’s on top, one is on life-support, and the other is stagnant. Forgive us if we have trouble seeing why Cain must lose.


23 posted on 10/16/2011 6:44:58 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL
Lots of money is GREAT. So how does either of them go about buying my vote, or for that matter, buy any of the Tea Party votes? Are we supposed to just vote for one of them because they flash a wad of money?

The GOP establishment has decided that Republican primary voters are lazy, bitch too much and are too demanding.

That's why this year, illegal foreign nationals will be brought in to do the voting for the establishment candidates that American Republican primary voters refuse to do.

24 posted on 10/16/2011 6:46:35 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: bullypulpit

You know it cost Romney alot to pay all the debaters to hang around.


25 posted on 10/16/2011 6:47:16 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: BobL

You don’t use that money during this “polling” period, you save it for right in front of each primary. That’s why Perry is still sitting on 15 million...he’s going to flood markets, especially SC and Florida.


26 posted on 10/16/2011 6:48:10 PM PDT by magritte
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To: BobL
buy any of the Tea Party votes

You don't speak for the Tea Party...I know a lot of Tea Party members who are voting for Perry.

Speak for yourself.

27 posted on 10/16/2011 6:48:28 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Clairity
There is a strong correlation between funds raised, organization on the ground and chances of winning.

Right. I guess that's why Romney spent more money per vote than any other candidate, yet never came close to winning in 2008, and is spending more than any candidate this time around, yet his numbers are flat-lining.

Not to mention that your man Perry has spent a lot and his numbers have nose-dived.

Romney=Flip-flop. Perry=Flop.

28 posted on 10/16/2011 6:50:41 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Clairity

These Cain Supporters better stop spamming the Keywords and get started holding car washes


29 posted on 10/16/2011 6:52:20 PM PDT by txroadkill (Antlers up! The Claw must be feared! Back2Back American League Champions!)
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To: Clairity

If money was all that mattered Steve Forbes would of been president.


30 posted on 10/16/2011 6:54:29 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: txroadkill

Lol. They’re like children, aren’t they?


31 posted on 10/16/2011 6:56:48 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte

“They are going for the undecideds; not political junkies who are not familiar with the candidates and will only be reached through television. Candidates have to counter misinformation, promote themselves with soundbites, and get “top of the mind” awareness. Politics is marketing your message.”

Oh, you mean the 34% that are for Cain in Florida (versus 28% for Romney and 5% for Perry). Sorry, but they’ve ALREADY been polled. And the ones that support Cain are rock-solid in his camp (i.e., Tea Party).


32 posted on 10/16/2011 6:58:11 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And Meg Whitman would be governor of California.


33 posted on 10/16/2011 6:59:30 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: magritte

“You don’t use that money during this “polling” period, you save it for right in front of each primary. That’s why Perry is still sitting on 15 million...he’s going to flood markets, especially SC and Florida.”

I suspect that the Tea Party candidates in 2010 averaged about 10% of what their “establishment” opponents had in the bank. Sometimes money simply DOES NOT BUY VOTES.


34 posted on 10/16/2011 7:01:21 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

If Polls were votes then Trump coulda been a contender. Enjoy the short ride on the Cain Train!


35 posted on 10/16/2011 7:01:43 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte

“If Polls were votes then Trump coulda been a contender. Enjoy the short ride on the Cain Train!”

And so where is Trump today... You know you’re sticking your foot in your mouth with that one.


36 posted on 10/16/2011 7:03:36 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

State-wide races are a different animal than nation-wide. It takes a lot of cash and presence in far-flung states, if, of course, you really intend to compete. If not, you can run a low-budget campaign, try to deliver a message, and vie for a VP slot.


37 posted on 10/16/2011 7:06:16 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte

If money were votes, The Donald would be the nominee right now.


38 posted on 10/16/2011 7:08:22 PM PDT by RichInOC (Sarah Palin is at war with the left. Most Freepers are just playing the video game.)
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To: BobL

Uh, he polled well, then crashed once everyone figured out he wasn’t a serious candidate. Same as Cain is going to do.


39 posted on 10/16/2011 7:09:09 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Clairity

I liked Perry until I started reading the posts of his supporters. Now I can’t stand the man. your vitriol has driven me away.


40 posted on 10/16/2011 7:10:50 PM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: RichInOC

Not HAVING money, spending it in a political ad campaign. C’mon, be serious.


41 posted on 10/16/2011 7:11:23 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Usually_Disappointed

I feel your pain. The Palin supporters, who currently support Cain, soured me on both of them.


42 posted on 10/16/2011 7:14:02 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Clairity
There is a strong correlation between funds raised, organization on the ground and chances of winning.

Horse manure. In 2008, Mike Huckabee had bupkis. He won Iowa. In 2008, John McCain ran his campaign out of money and was broke. He won New Hampshire, SC and FL.

Slick Willard was throwing money at all of those contests. He lost them all. His band of useless idiots were spouting the exact same crap you are now, slinging mud at every conservative they could, just like you guys.

Mike Huckabee used a network of churches in Iowa to win. Bachmann was trying to duplicate this, but if you look back at articles from a few months ago, I recall reading that she was running into resistance because they were interested in Herman Cain. I'll be they are just a touch more interested now.

Perry is finished. You people who stubbornly focus on the phony, stuttering, corrupt, imbecile from Texas are going to make it much harder to beat Romney. Get behind a VIABLE candidate and stop doing Mitt Romney and Obama's work for them.

43 posted on 10/16/2011 7:16:37 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
phony, stuttering, corrupt, imbecile from Texas

The Perrybots' argument boils down to this: Only our phony, stuttering, corrupt imbecile can beat their phony, stuttering, corrupt, imbecile [0bama]. "Anybody can see that"--Clairity

44 posted on 10/16/2011 7:27:50 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: hellbender

Indeed. And I say we vote no on ALL phony, stuttering, corrupt imbeciles in 2012!!! :)


45 posted on 10/16/2011 7:29:37 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: BobL

LOLOL! Nice. Well-played.


46 posted on 10/16/2011 7:35:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Clairity
As anyone can see, if you don't support Perry, you will get Romney.

Equine feces.

So, you think we should fall in line with whoever has the biggest corporate donors? So apparently you think we should all vote for Obama.

I think you know what you can do with that line of thinking.

47 posted on 10/16/2011 7:42:11 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: Clairity

The burn rate of Romney and Cain is interesting.
Romney went through 12 million to build “ out a campaign staff and infrastructure in all the early-voting states.”

Cain ended the July-to-September quarter with $1.3 million available in the bank for the primary fight.
Including a $ 173,000 personal loan to his campaign this quarter
and a $500,000 personal loan last quarter.
He spent nearly $2 million.
FTA “ The money he has spent has been used to build almost no campaign apparatus to speak of.”
Obama has raised 70 million, so far.

Not mentioned in the article are the Romney , Perry and Obama Super PACs and they will also raise a ton of money.


48 posted on 10/16/2011 7:47:36 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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In truth, the real election and campaign season has not really begun yet.

These early debates are a lot of fun, especially watching all the early prophets making all these ridiculous claims about how the election is going to unfold.

Cain has about as much chance of winning as do the other inexperienced and grossly underfunded wannabees that are stuck below 5%. Cain is way too inexperienced to organize something he is not suited to master in just a few short weeks.

The money train is what determines the most voter support. The polls are for losers. Cain will make a fool of himself eventually and already has in the recent weekend interviews. He is rapidly being labeled as a loose cannon while he unknowingly shoots his mouth off with radical and outlandish claims about the Wall Street Protesters, the border, Mexicans, etc.

American politics does not play well to the radical Right or Left. Like Reagan, one must learn how to be tactful and not come across as an extremist. Reagan was a master in the art of connecting with both sides of the isle and at the same time, make his ideology sound appealing and worth voting for.

Cain just does not have a clue on how to go about that tactic. He has already turned off a lot of regular Americans with his recent, outlandish statements.

49 posted on 10/16/2011 8:04:08 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Clairity

Romney will get us Obama.

Perry will likely get use Obama also.


50 posted on 10/16/2011 8:37:22 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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