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Archaeologists find blade production earlier than originally thought
http://www.physorg.com ^ | 17 OCT 2011 | Provided by Tel Aviv University

Posted on 10/17/2011 8:23:34 AM PDT by Red Badger

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Blades (tinted brown) found at Qesem Cave in Israel, the product of a sophisticated "production line." Credit: Dr. Ran Barkai/American Friends of Tel Aviv University (AFTAU)

1 posted on 10/17/2011 8:23:41 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping!..........


2 posted on 10/17/2011 8:24:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger

Genesis 4:22
Zillah also had a son, Tubal-Cain, who forged all kinds of tools out of bronze and iron.


3 posted on 10/17/2011 8:25:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Red Badger

This is not proof that the Book of Mormon is true.


4 posted on 10/17/2011 8:28:31 AM PDT by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: Red Badger

I wonder if they ever tried constructing a mnemonic memory circuit.


5 posted on 10/17/2011 8:29:28 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: MrB

Yes, but that was much later, at the beginning of the bronze age. These were paleolithics.........


6 posted on 10/17/2011 8:32:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: colorcountry

Wrong continent, for one............


7 posted on 10/17/2011 8:33:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger
Dr. Barkai and Prof. Gopher say that the blades found in Qesem Cave distinguish themselves through the sophistication of the technology used for manufacturing and mass production.

In a staffing conference, it was determined that Prof. Gopher was the obvious choice to dig in and see what he could find...

8 posted on 10/17/2011 8:36:59 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: Red Badger

A bit startling.
Needs more than Freeper vetting.

Is there a link tp responsible discussion?


9 posted on 10/17/2011 8:38:35 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Red Badger

When you're an Acheulo-Yabrudian you're an Acheulo-Yabrudian all the way...
From your first blade of flint to your last dying day.

10 posted on 10/17/2011 8:38:52 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Migraine

Yes, he was the one who had to go fer stuff............


11 posted on 10/17/2011 8:39:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Eldon Tyrell

http://www.tau.ac.il/humanities/archaeology/projects/qesem/staff.html


12 posted on 10/17/2011 8:41:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Migraine

The prof’s main challenge was keeping Barkai and Shimelmitz happy on the job.

“Hey! Dammit Gopher! Where’s that coffee already?”


13 posted on 10/17/2011 8:44:23 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Migraine

He bears a striking resemblance..........

14 posted on 10/17/2011 8:45:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger
late Lower Paleolithic period, 200,000-400,000 years ago as part of the Acheulo-Yabrudian cultural complex, a geographically limited group of hominins who lived in modern-day Israel, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.

And they have been at war with one another ever since.....

15 posted on 10/17/2011 8:51:49 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Red Badger

Flint forming for blades does not require powerful blows, just well controlled blows. It is not, BTW, difficult to learn or do.

It is even easier if you cook the flint in a fire. You can flake it then with simple pressure on the blade face.
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16 posted on 10/17/2011 9:02:09 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: buffaloguy

I tried making an arrowhead the other day. It takes lots of practice...............


17 posted on 10/17/2011 9:04:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger

Put it in a fire and it will be much easier.

There are sites on the Internet that you might find helpful.


18 posted on 10/17/2011 9:12:41 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Red Badger

You can use a hammer and cold chisel if you like.

It is a good SHTF skill to have.


19 posted on 10/17/2011 9:13:50 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Red Badger

Interesting photographs, but I didn’t see any cave? However in the world would they know to dig there?


20 posted on 10/17/2011 9:14:00 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: swain_forkbeard
I wonder if they ever tried constructing a mnemonic memory circuit.

Hard to say... don't know if the Tel Aviv area was ever populated by bears.

21 posted on 10/17/2011 9:16:46 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Red Badger
The title is confusing, I associate ‘blade’ with metallurgy.

People made edged utensils long before they understood metallurgy or knew how to work metal to produce actual blades. Some primitive people still make edged utensils out of bone, wood, etc.

The most interesting thing I read about all this is ‘Book of the Sword’ by Richard Francis Burton.

22 posted on 10/17/2011 9:18:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Socialism means slavery." Lord Acton)
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To: swain_forkbeard
I wonder if they ever tried constructing a mnemonic memory circuit.

Irrelevant if their construction was not using stone knives and bearskins.

23 posted on 10/17/2011 9:19:01 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Red Badger

Yea, well, this article is somewhat misleading; what they don’t tell you is that there’s significant disagreement about whether the creatures who made these instruments were Neanderthals, (Democrat Ancestors), or modern humans, (everyone else).

http://archaeology.about.com/od/athroughadterms/qt/Acheulo-Yabrudian-Cultural-Complex.htm


24 posted on 10/17/2011 9:21:19 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: buffaloguy
I Watched a Cherokee make them like a machine, he flaked them with a piece of deer horn.

The art is holding the work piece, one slip and the old thumb leaves.

25 posted on 10/17/2011 9:47:42 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: buffaloguy

Isn’t it kinda hard to hold when it’s H O T ?................


26 posted on 10/17/2011 10:04:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Rich21IE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qesem_Cave
27 posted on 10/17/2011 10:08:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Unexpected”


28 posted on 10/17/2011 10:09:35 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SMARTY

Here is an obsidian blade. Looks very deadly............

29 posted on 10/17/2011 10:11:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger

Yup...very efficient.


30 posted on 10/17/2011 10:22:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Socialism means slavery." Lord Acton)
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To: SMARTY

It’s also beautiful and aerodynamic. I wonder how they came up with that combo? No computers, just a brain.............


31 posted on 10/17/2011 10:24:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: org.whodat; buffaloguy; SMARTY

REMINDS ME OF AN OLD JOKE:

A tourist and his family stopped at one of those roadside trinket shops/restaurants out west where they sell Indian souvenirs and handmade artifacts and crafts.

He spotted a box full of arrowheads of all different kinds and sizes, $5 each.

He asked the proprietor if they were real.

“Of course they are real,” he replied. “They are genuine old Indian arrowheads”

Skeptical, the tourist asked where they came from.

“From all over the place, even back of this store,” he countered.

So the tourist bought a couple for his kids as souvenirs and headed them all out to the car.

As they were loading up, he casually walked around the back of the store, and sure enough, he saw that the proprietor was telling the truth.

There sat an old Indian making hundreds of arrowheads............


32 posted on 10/17/2011 10:33:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger
LOL, I ran into an old boy that made Tommy hawks and sold them on ebay, he was good at flint also. Our family farm was an old Indian hunting camping area, I spent hours as a kid walking new plowed field hunting arrow heads. I had a big jar full, I gave them to my little nephew, that spend hours following me saying what ye doing. He is over six foot and about 300 lbs today.
33 posted on 10/17/2011 10:40:33 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

I did that, too as a kid. Freshly plowed land near a creek right after a rain is the best time.................


34 posted on 10/17/2011 10:43:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger

That is a really good one.


35 posted on 10/17/2011 10:46:34 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Red Badger; txhurl

I’m drooling....


36 posted on 10/17/2011 10:48:28 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: org.whodat

It looks ‘fresh’..................


37 posted on 10/17/2011 10:52:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I doubt that there could be any of those here in the Southeast, unless they traded for them or the raw materials from western tribes............


38 posted on 10/17/2011 10:56:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Arrowhead1952; org.whodat

I thought it looked too ‘fresh’

http://www.modern-flintknapping.com/Featured-flintknapper.html


39 posted on 10/17/2011 10:59:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger

Probably was, the same Indian making the arrow heads had those as well, about 250.00 each. Depending on size, he was at the Ramp Festival Roan Mountain Tennessee.


40 posted on 10/17/2011 11:07:09 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

$250?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Where’s my flint?......gotta start making some quick!.............


41 posted on 10/17/2011 11:15:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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42 posted on 10/17/2011 11:21:16 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Red Badger

In a related story Prof. Spackler was removed from the project for placing a garden hose in Prof. Gopher’s car and filling it with water and other harassments.


43 posted on 10/17/2011 2:10:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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"I was just trying to protect the integrity of the science ya know."

44 posted on 10/17/2011 2:13:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

It looks a little ‘fresh’, but yeah I’m drooling too...


45 posted on 10/17/2011 4:25:21 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: org.whodat

the Acheulo-Yabrudian cultural complex

Aren’t these the people Eisenhower warned us about?


46 posted on 10/17/2011 4:34:47 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Red Badger

while the animal hide was processed elsewhere.

Which if you’ve ever done brain tanned hides
you know why.


47 posted on 10/17/2011 4:37:02 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Red Badger; BenLurkin; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks! Related: To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


48 posted on 10/17/2011 6:40:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SMARTY
The most interesting thing I read about all this is ‘Book of the Sword’ by Richard Francis Burton.

Burton's book is a reference standard on the topic. Good choice. I would ping my sword ping list, but I'm on the wrong computer tonight and don't have it handy. Dang...

49 posted on 10/17/2011 7:02:43 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: txhurl; Red Badger
It looks a little ‘fresh’, but yeah I’m drooling too...

I looked at that link in reply 39, and saw the newly worked points. It is still a nice specimen.

50 posted on 10/18/2011 4:34:41 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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