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Dont Occupy Education?
National Review Online ^ | October 17,2011 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 10/18/2011 6:55:35 AM PDT by Hojczyk

The number of people participating in the Occupy Wall Street sit-ins because they are angry that their education has not yielded the fruits that they hoped it would becomes more apparent by the day. Many of the protesters I have met are understandably ruffled that they are unemployed, and they often finish their remonstrations with a non-sequitur, delivered as if it were a knockout blow: “And I went to college!” Well, one might ask, “So what?”

In the West, we are hard at work establishing a culture that fetishizes education, and instills the belief that college — regardless of its content or application — will, and should, inexorably lead to a better job, or a better life, or even a better America. Worse, that one has a right to these things. In doing so, we have created a Potemkin aristocracy, one based upon the erroneous and tragic conceit that having letters after one’s name intrinsically confers excellence. We are happily encouraging our children to join its ranks, regardless of whether there is any evidence that to do so will be in their interest. This is supremely ironic, given that so many of America’s billionaires — i.e. those who pay for more educations and create more jobs than anyone else — are college dropouts. Indeed, both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates failed to finish college. Can we say with a straight face that this has adversely affected them, or America at large?

On Thursday, I met a guy down in Zuccotti Park. He speaks six languages, but he has nothing useful to say in any of them. He is the movement’s perfect spokesman.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: college; education; freecheese; occupy

1 posted on 10/18/2011 6:55:36 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

I DIDN’T go to college. I went to trade school. And I make a nice six figures in IT. A BA degree would allow me to say “would you like fries with that” in a more intelligable voice, but that’s about it. Well, that and it might allow me to easily spell “intelligible” without spell checker.


2 posted on 10/18/2011 6:59:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Hojczyk

Adam Smith promoted PRODUCTION
Karl Marx promoted REDISTRIBUTION
Now, after the murder of millions
Guess which is taught on campus?

— The late, great Ralph Smeed


3 posted on 10/18/2011 7:00:09 AM PDT by taxcutisapayraise (Making Statism Unpopular)
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To: Hojczyk
My daughter graduated from college on a Saturday. She had a number of leads but no job. A couple of the better leads were close to home. So after spending the weekend celebrating with her parents, sister, BIL, nephew and other relatives in the region, we started home on Monday, arriving early Thursday morning. She landed an interview with one of the leads the next day and was offered the job the next week.

It was hard work and didn't pay what she wanted, but it was a job and she took it.

She did her best at it, so much so that one of the better choices which wouldn't give her an interview in April called he back last week for a interview. With nearly six months of proven work history at an entry level job and an attitude which shows, they called her back on Friday with an offer which includes bennies like health insurance she didn't have with her present job. She gave them their two weeks notice yesterday.

The point is that my kid (and thousands of conservative family kids like her) did not spend her post graduation time protesting and whining that they can't get the job they "deserve." She took the first job available and used it as a stepping stone closer to the job she deserves.

FWIW, her old man did essentially the same thing back in 1981. It took me more years than it did her months to trade my first two jobs in on one I deserved.

4 posted on 10/18/2011 7:09:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Hojczyk
They are the Gratest Generation.

have been educated in government run or subsidized schools designed to teach students to be conforming group-thinkers, followers, non-independent thinking socialists, believers in big nanny-state government, whiners and professional victims.

It doesn't look like there is even one independent, analytical thinker in the crowd so I would say they got the education the schools intended. And they are doing the work their puppet masters planned for them.


5 posted on 10/18/2011 7:36:57 AM PDT by Iron Munro (“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them." -- Mitt Romney)
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6 posted on 10/18/2011 7:42:33 AM PDT by Iron Munro (“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them." -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Hojczyk

Credentialism. I see it all the time in my field, the longer the string of letters after ones name, they more they feel an authority on everything.


7 posted on 10/18/2011 8:01:52 AM PDT by Lorianne
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I teach at a big-brand school. This summer we had relatively extensive training devoted to hammering home the point “never give anyone the impression that getting a degree here is any sort of guarantee of getting a job.”


8 posted on 10/18/2011 8:07:55 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Vigilanteman
The difference is that your kid deserved the education -- i.e. she was smart, she learnt some useful skills WITH the useful skills she already had (hard-work, diligence etc.).

College education is devalued when it is too easy to get -- I got an engineering degree and I still had nightmares about it 4 years after I graduated.

If we try to pass every kid and push everyone into college, then higher education is devalued.

9 posted on 10/20/2011 5:14:49 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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