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Peacock looking plucked as NBC cancels shows (Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | October 16, 2011 | Johnathan Storm

Posted on 10/18/2011 7:42:41 AM PDT by abb

The Peacock is looking like a bedraggled starling at the start of its first fall TV season in Comcast's nest.

Three weeks in, overall viewership, according to the Nielsen Co., is up at CBS and Fox, and down less than 1 percent at ABC, vs. year-ago numbers.

But at NBC, it's down 6 percent.

More ominous: Despite a new entertainment boss and a large bump in spending on program development, NBC has seen the average viewership of its five new series drop a stunning 28 percent from levels achieved by last year's five new series in the first three weeks of the season.


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1 posted on 10/18/2011 7:42:48 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

I don’t follow network TV much. Is there a listing of the shows about which they’re discussing?


2 posted on 10/18/2011 7:45:35 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: abb
No linky?

Jonathan Storm: Peacock looking plucked as NBC cancels shows

3 posted on 10/18/2011 7:46:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: 04-Bravo; aimhigh; andyandval; Arizona Carolyn; Bahbah; bert; bilhosty; Caipirabob; carmenbmw; ...

ping


4 posted on 10/18/2011 7:46:45 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Other than Sunday Night Football I can’t think of a single program I’ve watched on NBC in many years. And I nearly dumped that when Keith Olbermann was anchoring their halftime show.


5 posted on 10/18/2011 7:48:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rarestia

Looks like ‘Playboy Club’ and ‘Free Agents’ so far.


6 posted on 10/18/2011 7:48:46 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Forgot to fill in the blank. Thanks for putting it up.


7 posted on 10/18/2011 7:49:13 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Most of the ‘new’ series on most of the big 4 are little more than rehashes of existing or old series.

At least 5 of the ‘detective/police’ type stories have at least one main character whose family/wife/parent(s) were killed by some unknown bad guy.

Most of them use the same script, with minor variations.


8 posted on 10/18/2011 7:49:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: abb

All we need is another American Idol Dancing With the Schlepps Sing Off Sing Off Sing Off clone piece of crap and we will all be entertained so much it will make our heads spin...


9 posted on 10/18/2011 7:49:48 AM PDT by djf (Soon you will need a prescription for EVERY SINGLE VITAMIN.)
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To: abb

How are they doing on their MSNBC Democrat Infommercials?


10 posted on 10/18/2011 7:49:50 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Grampa Dave; ken5050

http://joesharkeyat.blogspot.com/2011/08/usa-today-cant-give-it-away-and-man.html

USA Today: Can’t Give It Away; Man Sues After Being Charged for It

Many years ago, the USA Today founder and Gannett newspaper chain chief, a flashy corporate buccaneer named Al Neuharth, rolled the newspaper industry’s official circulation auditor, the Audit Bureau of Circulations, into accepting as “paid circulation” copies of a newspaper that are, as a significant portion of the USA Today print run has always been, essentially handed out for free, or deeply discounted in various bulk-sales distribution deals with hotels, airlines and other outlets.

Often the so-called bulk sales arrangement involves a barter deal for advertising space with hotels, airlines and other heavily traveled sources, and no actual money changes hands. USA Today, which counts bulk sales for roughly half of its sales, has always claimed a very large daily circulation, even though bulk sales account for about half of the 1.8 million papers it claims to sell five days a week. I, for one, have never actually purchased a copy in the quarter century that the newspaper has been in existence.


11 posted on 10/18/2011 7:51:08 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://www.newsandtech.com/news/article_ba141372-f8e9-11e0-8a02-001cc4c002e0.html
Paywall coming to LA Times?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/17/americamovil-idUSN1E79G0GL20111017
Mexican tycoon Slim sets sights on digital content

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/475344-Gannett_Broadcast_Revenue_Down_6_.php
Gannett Broadcast Revenue Down 6%


12 posted on 10/18/2011 7:52:54 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb; ken5050

Thanks for the input.

“essentially handed out for free, or deeply discounted in various bulk-sales distribution deals with hotels, airlines and other outlets.”

It probably depends on the size and power of the hotel/motel re what deal they can get.


13 posted on 10/18/2011 7:54:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: abb

I used to buy it back before the internet days, simply for compiling the fantasy football stats on Monday/Tuesday. That is it.


14 posted on 10/18/2011 7:55:18 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: abb

As long as they keep Parks & Recreation, I’ll be watching at least a little bit of NBC. WEll, that and Sunday night football.


15 posted on 10/18/2011 7:56:32 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: abb

I love CBS shows. NCIS, NCIS LA, Survivor, 21/2 Men, Mike and Molly, CSI’s, and so many. I would say that 80 percent of my TV watching is on CBS. ABC and especially NBC is not good. I know everyone hates CBS here, but it is the news section that is hated and not the family oriented shows they have at night.


16 posted on 10/18/2011 7:58:04 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SengirV

I heard they canceled “The Playboy Club”. Reportedly Hugh Hefner was sad they didn’t allow it to build an audience. Ratings were in the toilet for that show.


17 posted on 10/18/2011 7:58:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: napscoordinator
and not the family oriented shows they have at night.

2 1/2 Men is "Family Oriented"?

18 posted on 10/18/2011 7:59:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TomGuy
Most of the ‘new’ series on most of the big 4 are little more than rehashes of existing or old series.

They also follow fads. On one network, witches, werewolves and vampires were all the rage now I see at least 2 networks (NBC and ABC) are going to try modernized scarey fairy tales as themes.

I'll admit I enjoyed The Playboy Club. It was more a crime drama/ murder mystery than a sex romp. No more naughtiness than anything else out there now. It was actually mild. I've seen worst at the 7 pm hour.

19 posted on 10/18/2011 8:00:25 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The next NBC show to be canceled will probably be Up All Night starring Christina Applegate. It goes head-to-head with Survivor, The X Factor and The Middle.


20 posted on 10/18/2011 8:01:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I have enjoyed the few episodes of Whitney that have aired. Free Agents wasn’t bad either. I like humor that doesn’t have politics injected in it.


21 posted on 10/18/2011 8:02:15 AM PDT by MRobert (MRobert)
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To: abb

Well, they can always move Rev Al’s show to prime time on the network..


22 posted on 10/18/2011 8:02:25 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: TomGuy

“Most of them use the same script, with minor variations.”

For a vast majority of the viewing audience, that works. All they want to see is attractive people doing interesting things.

That’s why there’s CSI: Miami, New York, L.A., Buffalo, Trenton, Allentown, Duluth, etc.


23 posted on 10/18/2011 8:02:30 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: abb

NBC’s biggest primetime gamble just became the first cancelled show of the season: The Playboy Club has been pulled from the network’s schedule.

October 5th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

CBS & Fox Neck and Neck In Adults 18-49 Season-to-Date Ratings Through Week Ending October 2, 2011
Fox is only English language network up vs. last year.

TV Ratings Thursday: ‘X Factor’ Drops, Still Leads Fox Win; ‘Whitney,’ ‘Prime Suspect’ Hit Lows As NBC Has Worst In-Season Thursday Ever

Whitney fell 13% to a series low 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. Prime Suspect slid 13% to a series low 1.3 adults 18-49 rating.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/10/14/tv-ratings-thursday-x-factor-drops-still-leads-fox-win-on-a-mixed-night-of-advances-declines/107233/


24 posted on 10/18/2011 8:03:29 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: dfwgator

Good point. Not at all....just kinda funny. I don’t allow my kids to watch it but my wife and I occasionally do watch it.


25 posted on 10/18/2011 8:05:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: kcvl
How long until they bring back Law & Order[: The Orginal Series] you think?
26 posted on 10/18/2011 8:07:29 AM PDT by 92nina
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To: napscoordinator

We have Direct TV and apparently they have some kind of a contract dispute going with CBS. If it’s not settled, we won’t be able to see this channel after November 1. It’s going to be a crisis in this house if we can’t watch Gibbs on NCIS!


27 posted on 10/18/2011 8:12:09 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: abb

Why? Doesn’t this reduce revenue and put people out of work?


28 posted on 10/18/2011 8:16:04 AM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: abb

Maybe they should have nurtured Friday Night Lights better! One of the best shows in many years and they couldn’t move it to a better time slot. If they moved it to Tuesday or Thursday, when it wouldn’t compete with live football games it would have had a shot.


29 posted on 10/18/2011 8:17:16 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Grams A
It’s going to be a crisis in this house if we can’t watch Gibbs on NCIS!

The best character and best show on TV.


30 posted on 10/18/2011 8:18:05 AM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: Grams A

It’s going to be a crisis in this house if we can’t watch Gibbs on NCIS!

I agree. I wish you luck. I predict that they will settle it. If it was some obscure channel then I would worry but being a major channel, I THINK they will settle whatever issues they have. If not, you can watch it on CBS.com. Not as great but at least you will able to view it.


31 posted on 10/18/2011 8:18:27 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“How are they doing on their MSNBC Democrat Infommercials?”

Oh, you mean their news programs? Seems their man has got low ratings.


32 posted on 10/18/2011 8:20:38 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: kcvl
it's a network about nothing...

33 posted on 10/18/2011 8:23:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: All

Speaking of networks going down the tube...one of my favorites SyFy has gone off the deep end on wrestling and reality shows. I realize that sci-fi series are expensive, but I really used to enjoy some of their good shows.

I wish there was a channel that would just show some of the old 60’s & 70’s sci-fi shows...But I guess that is where Hulu comes in...


34 posted on 10/18/2011 8:28:17 AM PDT by Maringa
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To: abb
On Tuesday, for instance, Harry's Law, the network's most-watched scripted show, got an order for six additional scripts, despite its relatively old audience. Network execs were encouraged by a whiff of strength in the show among DVR users.

Harry's Law is just another foolish NBC Communist morality play, with leftist writers tossing turgid bits of propaganda and idiotic liberal tropes into every other line of the script.

They lay it on so heavily that it's even less watchable than Law and Order SVU (that is, unless you play a drinking game where you get to down a shot every time you identify yet another stale Commie propaganda ploy).

35 posted on 10/18/2011 8:34:18 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: abb

I guess the only show we watch on NBC is “Prime Suspect”, which, I think, must be an American remake of the popular British show of the same name that starred Helen Mirren. We like the show; hope it’s not cancelled.


36 posted on 10/18/2011 8:34:41 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: napscoordinator
I predict that they will settle it.

We're with DISH. About a year and a half ago, we lost the entire ABC network, including local Portland news, for nearly six months due to Fisher Communications dispute with DISH. The only thing we really cared about was "Jeopardy"- we were reduced to watching re-runs on "The Game Show Channel". We were really glad when it was finally settled.

37 posted on 10/18/2011 8:39:22 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: SuziQ

I think it was cancelled in this latest news (not positive)...

Prime Suspect slid 13% to a series low 1.3 adults 18-49 rating


38 posted on 10/18/2011 8:40:51 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Maringa

Good Sci fi always does well. Shortsighted networks still pull the plug. Any network that green lights new Firefly episodes would have a ratings bonanza.


39 posted on 10/18/2011 8:45:21 AM PDT by 1malumprohibitum
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To: Buckeye McFrog

UpCHUCK All Night starring Christina Applegate

wee wee and poo poo jokes went out along tme ago,, except on abc and nbc

Bring Back Arrested Development!


40 posted on 10/18/2011 8:46:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Other than Sunday Night Football I can’t think of a single program I’ve watched on NBC in many years. And I nearly dumped that when Keith Olbermann was anchoring their halftime show.

I was thinking along the same lines. Except that I don't watch Sunday Night Football. By the time Sunday night rolls around, I have had enough football.

The last NBC program that I watched was the 2010 Winter Olympics. Before that, it was when NBC broadcasted NASCAR races. I can't remember the last time I watched a NBC prime time entertainment show.


41 posted on 10/18/2011 8:48:18 AM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (Free Obama's Birth Certificate!)
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To: Cinnamontea

NCIS is my favorite show and about the only thing I watch on TV (USA reruns). I think gay/lib writers took over. I’m really disappointed in the way the show is going. They are making Gibbs into a criminal, Tony looks like a cartoon character, McGee looks weak and depressed and Ziva sits around and looks pretty. They’re going to make Gibbs cry on the program at some point or another.

I guess they are going for the female audience now. Too much family stuff for me and not enough bad guys getting theirs. They are also recycling plots. As my daughter says she likes shows and movies with guns, guts and guys, which NCIS had at the beginning. They also started out very pro-America and pro-military. Now, they have very little of that. It was fun while it lasted.


42 posted on 10/18/2011 8:49:43 AM PDT by stansblugrassgrl (PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!! YEEEEEHAW!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The network shows are universally awful. How many “tough” lady lawyers and cops can we stand? Or perverse shows with nonstop sexual content?

When are we going to be able to pick and choose which channels we want on cable? I watch sports and HGTV, and my husband watches history documentaries and movies. The rest is useless.

And it really bothers me when the networks (especially Fox!) insert inappropriate material in the ads for their sleazy shows and air them during sports programming. There are many youngsters who watch sports, and they don’t need to be exposed to this gutter humor.


43 posted on 10/18/2011 8:50:51 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Inspectorette

You should be able to plug an external antenna into you dish receiver and pull in over the air broadcasts.


44 posted on 10/18/2011 8:53:37 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: 1malumprohibitum

true dat. Unfortunately the actors, writers, etc etc have all moved on, and it was the whole mixture that made the show what it was. Don’t think they would ever be able to recapture that.


45 posted on 10/18/2011 8:54:07 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Cinnamontea
NCIS and Person of Interest are my favorites. Gibbs makes the series NCIS.A man's man. America is starving for real men. I love the main character in Person of Interest. Kicks as$ and takes names. No let's search our feelings metro-sexual in this series.
46 posted on 10/18/2011 8:57:24 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Advertisers pay attention to total viewership, where NBC does not have a top-40 show other than football....

Other than football, I won't watch their garbage either. Promoting jerks like Alex Baldwin and Keith Olbermann is the reason why.

47 posted on 10/18/2011 9:00:23 AM PDT by mojito
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To: abb

They can put any kind of crap on. They can take it back off too. In the meantime, we’ll be watching Gaki no Tsukai and more real entertainment on the internet.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18491537Ja7DnKDe?h1=Downtown+Gaki+no+Tsukai+Oogiri+Daigassen+Chinko+Machine+


48 posted on 10/18/2011 9:02:39 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Grams A

Is it national CBS? I haven’t seen anything about my local CBS.


49 posted on 10/18/2011 9:05:14 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Washington,DC is FULL of people with Political Experience... How's that Working out for you??)
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To: Pining_4_TX
And it really bothers me when the networks (especially Fox!) insert inappropriate material in the ads for their sleazy shows and air them during sports programming. There are many youngsters who watch sports, and they don’t need to be exposed to this gutter humor.

You've hit upon one of my sore spots as well. The ads for Viagra, Cialis and related products seem to run non-stop during Major League Baseball. They will even superimpose Viagra ads on that blue screen behind home plate for half an inning at a time. Really makes me glad I do not have a young son who likes baseball.
50 posted on 10/18/2011 9:11:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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