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US Flip-Flops, Criticizes Shalit Deal
Arutz Sheva ^ | 18/10/11 | Gavriel Queenann

Posted on 10/18/2011 1:22:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

In an apparent about-face, US officials criticized Tuesday evening the deal brokered for the freedom of Gilad Shalit, which set hundreds of terrorists, including those who had murdered Americans, free.

The criticism came after it became clear that the released terrorists included those who had murdered Jews with United States citizenship.

Earlier on Tuesday, US President Barak Obama had said he was pleased with the deal that set Shalit free despite his own nation’s strict policy of not negotiating with terrorists for the release of its citizens.

Obama also expressed the hope Israel and officials in Ramallah would take the steps necessary to return to the negotiating table.

Previously, US secretary of state Hillary Clinton also praised Israel for negotiating with terrorists to secure Shalit's release.

French President Sarkozy welcomed the release of Gilad Shalit, saying France had breathed a sigh of relief. Visiting the port city of Nice, Sarkozy's opined Shalit's French citizenship helped keep him alive. He added that Gilad will visit France soon.

Britain's foreign secretary William Hague also welcomed the release of Gilad Shalit, and like Obama, added he hoped the terrorists-for-Shalit deal would provide positive momentum allowing the resumption of peace talks.

It is unclear why the Shalit deal would provide any such momentum. Israel's deal to release 1,027 security prisoners, some 450 convicted on terrorism charges, for Shalit was made with the Hamas terror organization in Gaza and not Palestinian Authority officials in Ramallah. Hamas encouraged those who were released to go back to terrorist acts.

Hamas had vowed never to negotiate with Israel.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: deal; flipflop; giladschalit; israel; shalit; us
Releasing terrorists who murdered Jooos!, of course, is no big deal. We're used to being killed. But murdering Americans--why...why, that's a crime. How dare those Israelis take advantage of our ignorance of the facts!

See why I had to emigrate, folks. America is simply no longer safe from lunacy. It's in the White House.

1 posted on 10/18/2011 1:22:42 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5; ExTexasRedhead; little jeremiah

What, a single Jew is worth 1000 Arabs?....of course Obama criticizes it.......

But then 1000 Arabs have 1000 bio chips which radiate as drone targets...no wonder Obama is all wee wee’d up.


2 posted on 10/18/2011 1:36:57 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

Oh I hope your right!


3 posted on 10/18/2011 1:46:20 PM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Candor7

Good point. I thought the deal was odious but there’s always Mossad to make it right in the end.


4 posted on 10/18/2011 1:49:10 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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To: Eleutheria5

Whether or not you believe the decision was the right one, I find it admirable that the Israeli government is that concerned with the lives of its own citizens.


5 posted on 10/18/2011 2:00:36 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

If there is an American soldier hostage, generally families of service members might be for an exchange; while the non-serviceman-family population would be more in tune with seeing the downside of releasing murderers. In the US, with a volunteer army, a deal such as this is highly unlikely. In the case of Israel with basically EVERY family being a service-member family, the entire country is deal-leaning. In a democracy, this placed tremendous pressure on Netanyahu to deal, a guy who railed against such deals over years past.


6 posted on 10/18/2011 2:07:40 PM PDT by C210N (zer0 - a Marxonist spreading the flames of obamunism wherever he goes.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Israel's deal to release 1,027 security prisoners, some 450 convicted on terrorism charges, for Shalit was made with the Hamas terror organization in Gaza and not Palestinian Authority officials in Ramallah. Hamas encouraged those who were released to go back to terrorist acts.
This says all that needs to be said about this "deal" IMHO. IMHO, tt was foolish an will cost Israel many more lives before all is said and done.

All due respect and thanksgiving for the one soldier's safe return...but Israel opened up a can of worms by dealing in this fashion with terrorists and can expect Hamas and others to routinely capture at least one Israeli soldier when they commit there terroristic mayhem for use as a negotiating pawn in the future. 1000 for one.

450 of them convicted on terrorism charges, some for out and out murder, and encourgaed immediately upon return by Hamas to take up the Jihad Sword again.

7 posted on 10/18/2011 2:12:16 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: C210N

Bibi, however, is like an accordian. Squeeze him, and he folds.


8 posted on 10/18/2011 2:13:18 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

No more Foreign Aid. If the Israelis have turned into surrender monkeys, then is there anyone else worth spending a dime on ?


9 posted on 10/18/2011 2:32:19 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: TomasUSMC

Unfortunately, we have an ISLAMIST president in the USA who is the leader of the surrender money Democratic party. More whine with that cheese?


10 posted on 10/18/2011 2:56:32 PM PDT by juliej
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To: Eleutheria5

Obama first praises the deal - He has his cake

Now he criticizes the deal after the terrorists are released - He eats his cake too.

Obama loves that the terrorists are free to harm Israel again, but he doesn’t want his joy to hurt him in the polls.


11 posted on 10/18/2011 2:57:52 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: hattend

That has to be it. You got him.


12 posted on 10/18/2011 3:01:11 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Yes, but allowing those murderers free was an act of moral cowardice.

More Jews will die because of it.

13 posted on 10/18/2011 3:06:12 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration

Letting any of them go was appalling. But what’s worse is that the only murderers that Obama pretends to be upset about is those that have killed Americans. Other than that, he’s fine with it all. Insult+injury.


14 posted on 10/18/2011 3:09:14 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Letting any of them go was appalling. But what’s worse is that the only murderers that Obama pretends to be upset about is those that have killed Americans. Other than that, he’s fine with it all. Insult+injury.


15 posted on 10/18/2011 3:09:14 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

HE is disgusting AND stupid.


16 posted on 10/18/2011 3:36:53 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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Perhaps I'm a cynic, but I won't be surprised if one of these releases returns to terror. And if history is a guide, the justice system will be a bit more swift. Should I be correct, I wonder if Obama-Hillary will be saying "about time", or be whining about disproportionate responses.

17 posted on 10/18/2011 4:15:28 PM PDT by SJackson (The irony is, the reason I was in this office is because I told a story to the American people, BHO)
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To: Eleutheria5

This didn’t poll well with the Jewish voters they’d sampled and now have to backpedal.

The regime is pro-Islamist and probably helped negotiate it.


18 posted on 10/18/2011 4:26:52 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ('Are now or have you ever been a member of the tea party?' is NOT a legitimate debate question.)
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To: a fool in paradise

1700 terrorists for ONE Israeli? Seems like an incredible incentive for the Palistinians/Hamas to INCREASE taking Irsraelis hostage. Why wasn’t it one for one? I’m stunned that Israel agreed to this. Or am I missing something?


19 posted on 10/18/2011 6:18:47 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: SJackson
Good evening.

Perhaps I'm a cynic, but I won't be surprised if one of these releases returns to terror.

Last time I checked, InTrade had the odds at 4 to 1.

The odds of GITMO releases last time I checked is 25 to 1.

I wonder what the odds are at InTrade of Shalit committing a terrorist attack?

5.56mm

20 posted on 10/18/2011 7:22:38 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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Thanks Eleutheria5.
The criticism came after it became clear that the released terrorists included those who had murdered Jews with United States citizenship. Earlier on Tuesday, [the Kenya-born Muzzie] had said he was pleased with the deal that set Shalit free... also expressed the hope Israel and officials in Ramallah would take the steps necessary to return to the negotiating table. Previously, US secretary of state Hillary Clinton also praised Israel for negotiating with terrorists to secure Shalit's release... Sarkozy... opined Shalit's French citizenship helped keep him alive. He added that Gilad will visit France soon.

21 posted on 10/18/2011 8:22:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: boop
1700 terrorists for ONE Israeli? Seems like an incredible incentive for the Palistinians/Hamas to INCREASE taking Irsraelis hostage. Why wasn’t it one for one? I’m stunned that Israel agreed to this. Or am I missing something?

Actually, it was 1027 terrorists for one Israeli.

Which means it was one terrorist for one Israeli, and

1026 terrorists for free.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count...

22 posted on 10/19/2011 12:40:07 AM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Eleutheria5

MSM reporting “Palestinians” or “Palestinian fighters” released.

Not “Islamic terrorists” or even “Hamas terrorists”.

MSM reporters including those of Fox only refer to Hamas as “militants”, not terrorists.

Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.


23 posted on 10/19/2011 6:21:34 AM PDT by Amerisrael (Palin/West 2012)
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To: Eleutheria5
Previously, US secretary of state Hillary Clinton also praised Israel for negotiating with terrorists to secure Shalit's release.

What a bunch of flip flopping hypocrites. I wish the US government( not for, "We The People")would start LISTENING to us, and get off Israel's back! They're lame a__ed dry humping the State of Israel is sickening then they wizz on them afterward. Does anyone yet know Israel is damned if they do and damned if they don't. Demonizing Israel is more in vogue than the 1930's because it's now international. Gads this is sickening.

24 posted on 10/19/2011 9:13:02 AM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, "...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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Glad to see that Shalit is in fact back with his family, though he looks very thin in the photo accompanying the posted article.

But on the other hand, the release of the hundreds of convicted terrorist murderers is cause for grave concern for the future of Israel and the western world.

BTW, the subject of negotiating prisoner exchanges with terrorists came up on the GOP presidential debate last night.

25 posted on 10/19/2011 9:48:29 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: C210N

What you say is true. However even if you are going to negotiate, it is a better policy to say not only will you not negotiate with terrorist, but that any captive held for more than 72 hours will be considered dead.

Of course any country and its people and especially the family of the victim aches at the kidnapping - kidnapping is especially bruising because it hurts the ego in the sense that the enemy got in close and grabbed you, unlike being shot from 100 yards or bombed and also because of the unknown, is he dead or alive?

So the policy needs to be you have 72 hours to turn him over, or we consider him dead and go after you.

Israel has been very nice to Hamas. Way too nice. I know there is a lot more to it that is unreported and not commented on. I discussed it a few weeks ago - Israel’s deal with Hamas raises Hamas politically among the Pals and damages PLO/PA politically. This is in part a way to punish PLO/PA by embarrassing them for going to the UN. It is a no-win situation for PLO/PA. If they want to appear more tough then they have to get violent and that will ostracize them from the UN and Europe. If they do nothing then they look weak because they lost at the UN and also Hamas looks like the Pals heroes.

I will have to dig up my previous post (many pages ago) because it was a lot more clear about how this deal is as much strategic and political as it is tactical and humanitarian.


26 posted on 10/19/2011 2:25:36 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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27 posted on 10/20/2011 9:58:38 AM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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