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3,000 in line for free medical care at Sports Arena (LA in Kalifornia)
LA Times ^ | 10-17-11 | Anna Gorman

Posted on 10/18/2011 5:31:38 PM PDT by dynachrome

Sergio Hidalgo was in line with his wife and two teenage daughters. All four needed to see a dentist.

One daughter had a hole in one of her teeth, his wife had inflamed gums and all of them had pain.

"We don't have the money to pay for this," said Hidalgo, 36, who lost his job a year and a half ago. Hidalgo and his wife are undocumented immigrants, as are a number of others waiting in line.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; freeloaders; freemedicalcare; immigrantlist; immigration; parasites; socialsafetynet
Free medical for everyone and free education and free housing and free food and free skittles!
1 posted on 10/18/2011 5:31:43 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Most of the people who need dental work could be serviced with some string and a good swinging door...


2 posted on 10/18/2011 5:33:26 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: dynachrome

What dental/medical care would these criminals get in their home country? We should give them the same treatment here.


3 posted on 10/18/2011 5:36:17 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: dynachrome

What an opportunity. There are 3,000 lined up just waiting to be deported.


4 posted on 10/18/2011 5:37:11 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dynachrome

So this guy admits that he and his wife are here illegally..where the hell is INS!!! Oh yeah I forgot, this is LA


5 posted on 10/18/2011 5:40:04 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: dynachrome

This is a town that want’s to give Ziggy Wilf a free football stadium. Such big hearts.

Ziggy, are you sure this is where you want your business to be in five years?


6 posted on 10/18/2011 5:40:04 PM PDT by DManA
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To: dynachrome

He has a choice in my view. Dental care in Mexico or dental care at Fulsom Prison.


7 posted on 10/18/2011 5:42:32 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: dynachrome

illegals. Who paid for this?


8 posted on 10/18/2011 5:43:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: dynachrome
My father said there was a free dental clinic in North Carolina not too long ago.

The dentists and staff labored for hours, and took care of hundreds ...... all for free, and almost all were African-Americans.

When the medical staff was exhausted, they had to tell people to go home.

The staff was cursed, threatened, and had things thrown at them.

9 posted on 10/18/2011 5:58:41 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: dynachrome

Wouldn’t it be cheaper to charter a bunch of buses to Vancouver and let them get treated there? Gotta think outside the box to save the Californian taxpayer some money!


10 posted on 10/18/2011 6:13:25 PM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: LRoggy

“Wouldn’t it be cheaper to charter a bunch of buses to Vancouver and let them get treated there? Gotta think outside the box to save the Californian taxpayer some money!”

They’ll meet the Canadian snowbirds going south for sunshine and Mexican dentistry!


11 posted on 10/18/2011 6:41:47 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: SkyPilot

I’ve witnessed this. I waited all night, in a Minnesota winter, I was first in line for the dental clinic (had a really bad tooth that had to go asap) must have been 400 people lined up behind me. I was one of the first in but the elevator broke and I was stuck in it for 6 hours. When they finely got me out of the elevator me, and those with me went to the front (and the end) of the line. The people they turned away went NUTS.

Police and security had to remove them from the premise.

Dentist did extra work for me because I was so cool even after being stuck in a standing room only elevator waiting to get out.


12 posted on 10/18/2011 7:41:21 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: LRoggy
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to charter a bunch of buses to Vancouver . . .

Tijuana is a lot closer. Just sayin'

13 posted on 10/18/2011 8:14:47 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dynachrome

Hidalgo and his wife are ILLEGAL ALIENS....

there, fixed that one.


14 posted on 10/18/2011 8:15:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: dynachrome

Not for everyone. For 3000. There are 60 million citizens without any form of health insurance in this nation - and not by choice. Once you are over 50 and out of work, it is practically impossible to get any form of health insurance in this country. That’s because there is no profit in insuring the health of people who will probably be getting ill - an in serious ways - over the next 15 years.


15 posted on 10/18/2011 10:02:39 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: dynachrome
Hidalgo, 36, who lost his job a year and a half ago. Hidalgo and his wife are undocumented immigrants...

I don't have the words to say what I'm thinking.

16 posted on 10/19/2011 1:42:56 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

Oh, you have the words, all right, but they’d get you banned.


17 posted on 10/19/2011 1:57:05 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: dynachrome
...and all of them had pain

Yep.
I have little doubt that 90% of these deadbeats are in line for "pain" scrips.

18 posted on 10/19/2011 2:03:27 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dynachrome; All
The so-called "social safety net" in CA is vile. It incentivises broken families and single parent homes. It discriminates on the basis of race or ethnicity, gender and, at "migrant worker" clinics, even national origin.

If you are male or white, you're doomed. If you're female and pregnant you're OK. If you have children in tow, you're OK. If you're Native American, black or hispanic, you're OK too. If you're illegal, you're OK. If you've saved but can't make ends meet, you're doomed for food or housing assistance until you're destitute even if your savings reaches a point too low to keep you off the street.

If you've been self-employed, you've paid "both halves" of healthcare coverage at thousands per year for an individual. If you lose it due to costs, illness or downturn, too bad. If you're unable to work, too bad. There's no unemployment benefit for the self-employed. You were too self-sufficient, for too long, to need the social safety net and will be punished accordingly.

CA isn't the only broken state either. The stories I could share...

19 posted on 10/19/2011 2:04:35 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You caught me! It did cross my mind.


20 posted on 10/19/2011 2:05:22 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: dynachrome

It would be interesting to see how Hidalgo, 36, who lost his job a year and a half ago. Hidalgo and his wife are undocumented immigrants, are making ends meet ?


21 posted on 10/19/2011 8:04:54 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: worst-case scenario

“Once you are over 50 and out of work, it is practically impossible to get any form of health insurance in this country. “

That’s why you get a job that has health insurance.


22 posted on 10/19/2011 8:09:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Have you tried to get a job once you are 50? *You won’t even get an interview.* Why? Because the health insurance will cost the company too much.

Try reading about “age discrimination.” This one actually exits - because there is an economic reason for it.


23 posted on 10/19/2011 11:52:37 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: doc1019

Cry me a river.


24 posted on 10/19/2011 3:50:18 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: worst-case scenario

Actually, I had a head hunter contact me the other day. It seems 53 year-olds are still in demand.


25 posted on 10/19/2011 6:50:32 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

At least you and your specific skill set are. You say opu were contacted by a headhunter - was this at your place of present employment? Because once you are unemployed - by, say, a division closing down - you immediately enter a category of “unemployable.”

Your anecdotal evidence doesn’t overcome the statistical fact that there is very prevalent age discrimination in corporate hiring. My contacts in personnel and “human resources” are very blunt about it. They say that they know that it’s an illegal practice, but since it is so common, no one is worried about getting prosecuted.

Of course, I am discussing hiring practices on a broad scale across America. You are using your own personal experience as an argument that I am mistaken. Your personal experience is great for you, but in no way proves that the hiring of 50+ workers is flourishing.


26 posted on 10/20/2011 6:53:16 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: worst-case scenario

I’m just telling you. We hired a guy in his 60’s who was laid off. Some of it is skill set and some of it is the reality that loyalty is no longer required so you can hire a 50 year-old knowing he will only work 15 years or so. It’s better than hiring a 25 year-old who will only work a couple of years.


27 posted on 10/20/2011 7:29:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: worst-case scenario

That’s why you save for a rainy day.


28 posted on 10/20/2011 7:31:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

How many people are able to save $100,000 or more for cancer treatment? How about managing $75K a year for dialysis? Get real. Hospitals and drug companies can charge what they want, because they believe insurance companies will spring for it. For all we know, the pharmaceutical and the hospital industry are exchanging kickbacks with the insuram=nce companies. What all the constant inflation *does* mean, however, is that any patient that has to pay out of pocket is going to be bankrupt or dead.


29 posted on 10/21/2011 5:59:36 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: AppyPappy

While I respect your opinions and have no doubt as to the veracity of your own particular situation, you must see that the anecdotal evidence of one individual has absolutely no bearing to the statistical truth overall.
“According to The Office for National Statistics (ONS), the number of older workers who have been unemployed for 12 months or more is 50 percent higher this year than it was last year and marks the biggest increase across all age groups.” (2010 data) http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/08/17/age-discrimination/ This statistic does not even count the percentage of workers who are not provided with health insurance by their employer (including every independent contractor).

it is an absolute fact that older workers are not being rehired as rapidly by businesses, if at all. Hell, it’s a major problem. I just googled and found this thing, http://www.overfiftyandoutofwork.com/ which I haven’t looked at but it seems to have a fair bit of info, so you might be interested in it since you are over 50. If you were not employed - for whatever reason, say a sudden health episode - if you had no employer-based health insurance, what would you do? Could you afford insurance - if you could even find someone to cover you? *Any* pre-existing condition will get you a “no.”
It’s truly not as simple as you imagine. Why is it so difficult for you just to admit the facts? That facts are that people over 50 *cannot* find insurance as readily as younger people, and by as large margin. If they can find it, it costsprohibitively more (a pricing decision made by the insurance companies on purpose, as to discouragelder people from actually purchasing a policy.). It costs so much more that businesses, who do not want to have to pay that larger percentage in *their* own contributions, prefer younger workers, who will ask for less money, work much longer hours, and statistically have fewer sick days. Not to mention your small businessman, who is often just hanging on these days. These are the *facts.* The truth is not Liberal or Conservative; it just *is*.

You may like the American for-profit medical system, the only one of its kind in the world. Americans spend more money on health care per person than any other nation in the industrialized world, with fewer people covered. Americans over 50 are the fastest growing group of the uninsured in this country. Medical bills are the primary cause of more than 60% of bankruptcies in this country - and that figure is from 2009. http://articles.cnn.com/2009-06-05/health/bankruptcy.medical.bills_1_medical-bills-bankruptcies-health-insurance?_s=PM:HEALTH These are the facts.

My point is that you have to like and defend the current American system *in spite of* the facts - not by denying the facts.

If you like the current system, for whatever reason, you have to say, “Good! I don’t mind that all that is true - in fact, it’s a *good* outcome, because that is what is supposed to happen. After all, it’s all part of the system I think is best.”

If the system that you advocate for causes suffering in some people, don’t deny it. *Embrace it* Say, “Those people deserved it.” Or “those people don’t really matter because...” or “Who cares? It’s their hard luck!”

After all, what if the facts are really true? What if the present system makes it much more difficult for anyone over 50 to get health insurance, leaving a greater percentage of Americans between 45 and 65 with no access to health insurance? What if that they have to pay cash for treatment or go without?

Just because that is the situation doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing. It’s not a bug; it’s a feature. In the grand scheme of things, it may be better if they die off sooner. They won’t burden the Social Security or Medicare rolls, and it should help close the deficit.


30 posted on 10/22/2011 8:04:31 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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