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Cain comes under attack at Republican debate
Reuters ^ | Oct 18, 2011 | Steve Holland and Patricia Zengerle

Posted on 10/18/2011 6:29:26 PM PDT by mdittmar

(Reuters) - Upstart Republican front-runner Herman Cain on Tuesday came under sharp attack from his rivals at a 2012 debate and struggled to explain his tax reform plan, the signature proposal of his campaign.

Cain, the former Godfather's Pizza CEO who has shot to the top of Republican opinion polls, found himself the target at the CNN-sponsored debate, where his rivals began to take him seriously after believing he would simply fade as time wore on.

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1 posted on 10/18/2011 6:29:33 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

HUGH AND SERIES?

I did NOT see that coming....

(I didn’t even watch the debate...)


2 posted on 10/18/2011 6:30:49 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: mdittmar

Cain’s doing alright up there. Mitt’s definitely stealing the show though.


3 posted on 10/18/2011 6:32:30 PM PDT by JosephMama
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To: mdittmar

To be fair, that’s part of what he’s there for. Being a front runner makes it especially true.

Actually I enjoy the tweets for Michelle Malkin and Jedediah Bila most of all. LOL


4 posted on 10/18/2011 6:32:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: mdittmar

Cain is the man to beat... or lose to.


5 posted on 10/18/2011 6:33:14 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mdittmar

Sounds like tonight was Herman Cain’s turn to get clobbered with the rubber chickens. Being number 1 in the polls causes that.


6 posted on 10/18/2011 6:33:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’m watching starting now from DVR.

Anderson Cooper- I’m not too excited about this one, judging from this article, not much to see here.


7 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:41 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: mdittmar
Well duh, funny, old willard ran over and kicked perrys as* up between the shoulder blades a couple of times. But Cain is holding his own. Bachmann and newt hanging in there. Paul is also hanging in. Old perry is trying to build an invisible fence.
8 posted on 10/18/2011 6:39:52 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Surprise, surprise. NOT.


9 posted on 10/18/2011 6:40:34 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

CNN arranged a circular firing squad. I hope Cain shows he is a man who can take it and keep positive. The next POTUS will be highly criticized, time to prove his metal.


10 posted on 10/18/2011 6:43:48 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: mdittmar
Cain will be our next POTUS and he is amazed at the prospect....


11 posted on 10/18/2011 6:47:53 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: mdittmar

I don’t think there is any question that Cain won. The others came after him, but he held his own. He did much better than Romney did trying to defend RomneyCare. Overall Cain connected much better on a personal level and appeared more authentic.

Go, Herman, go!


12 posted on 10/18/2011 6:49:55 PM PDT by bobk333
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To: mdittmar

you can’t tell that obama and the pubies want romney.

/s


13 posted on 10/18/2011 6:50:42 PM PDT by ken21
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To: mdittmar

Cain is not holding up well. Romney is slick as usual (gag). Perry has had his best night (still a horrible debater). Newt is great as usual. Santorum is his ankle biting self. Bachmann is pretty solid.


14 posted on 10/18/2011 6:50:43 PM PDT by nhwingut (Draft Palin '12... For 3rd Party Run)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Did anyone know that Cain is also wanted?


15 posted on 10/18/2011 6:52:31 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: JosephMama

ANDERSON COOPER??????? CNN?????????????

We can see the GOP Establishment fingerprints ALL OVER these “debates”. Getting conservatives to cut each other to pieces and make Romney look good. The GOP Does NOT want any “Tea Party” influence in the Presidency. They want a PROVEN collaborator like Romney nominated. They would rather LOOSE to Obama than help a real conservative get nominated or elected.

I saw Anderson Cooper on Jeopardy. He’s an ignoramus. He even missed a lot of those “dumbed down” celebrity questions.


16 posted on 10/18/2011 6:53:19 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: JosephMama
Mitt’s definitely stealing the show though.

Yeah, he's been training a long time. He knows how to snake-oil the masses like 0.

17 posted on 10/18/2011 6:53:28 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: DaveyB

I agree.


18 posted on 10/18/2011 6:53:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: mdittmar

Cain got jumped on quite a bit at the beginning, but he seems to be responding with flip flops at worst and lack of specifics at best. Show me the Cain that took apart Clinton.


19 posted on 10/18/2011 6:53:49 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: DaveyB

I’ve got to wonder who in the hell in the GOP agrees to a debate hosted by CNN and moderated by Anderson Cooper. I wonder if the Democrats would ever agree to a debate hosted by FOX News and moderated by Andrew Brietbart.


20 posted on 10/18/2011 6:55:50 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mdittmar

“...rivals...believed [Cain] would...fade as time wore on.”

Now, that’s racism if I ever heard it. The only thing more stupid would be thinking Clinton or Obama are black.


21 posted on 10/18/2011 6:55:51 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

If you can snatch the pebble from my hand,


22 posted on 10/18/2011 6:57:43 PM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: mdittmar

Cain is the man to beat. Romney is the man to beat UP.


23 posted on 10/18/2011 7:01:17 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: All

CNN: “The Obama campaign is celebrating after watching the debate tonight”


24 posted on 10/18/2011 7:01:54 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (To make a Conservative angry, tell him a lie. To make a Liberal angry, tell him the truth.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Giving the devil his due, Anderson Cooper did a very good job of conducting the debate. It’s been a long time since CNN was invited into my living room, and I’m wincing while Donna Brazire is blathering before they interview Mr. Cain, but no complaints about Cooper as moderator.


25 posted on 10/18/2011 7:03:52 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: mdittmar
..signature proposal of his campaign.

That's one of the tactics of the dems right there. Define the other guy in your terms - don't let him define himself.
26 posted on 10/18/2011 7:04:37 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: mdittmar

All I saw was attacks against eachother. Cain once agaun showed class and Romney attempted to steal the show....he didn’t. Bachmann did okay with the little time she had, Ron Paul showed himself to be an ignorant lunatic and Santorum and Perry struggled.

Not enough attacks against Obama, just eachother. I’m getting bored.


27 posted on 10/18/2011 7:05:48 PM PDT by mardi59 (Time to turn off the tv so I don't break it..)
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To: yup2394871293

I agree. Cain looked like a flip flopper especially on the hostage question. Newt is looking better to me, and I still love the honesty of Ron Paul. The others..aargh!


28 posted on 10/18/2011 7:06:29 PM PDT by alamogal
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To: mdittmar

This is really funny! I did not think Cain was especially attacked, and he came across well. Perry is a disorganized speaker, and a poor debater, and did not improve his position.
Romney is smooth, and well practiced, and does not lose his cool. He also is far more conservative than some of the Rinos supporting him.
Gingrich is thoughtful and brilliant.
Poor Ron Paul! He is good at times, but then comes out with foolish positions. He has no sense of world reality.
Rick Santorum is a good guy, and deserves more attention.
Michelle Bachmann is a good conservative, but not as good a debater as many of the others.


29 posted on 10/18/2011 7:07:44 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: Vigilanteman
I’ve got to wonder who in the hell in the GOP agrees to a debate hosted by CNN and moderated by Anderson Cooper.

We need a webcast debate to get out from under the thumb of the news networks.
30 posted on 10/18/2011 7:13:34 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: docbnj

agreed...

Rick Perry makes me sick.. he’s 110% AGGIE. nuff said.

Cain is my man. He needs to improve more, with his communication skills... but, he IS getting better, quickly. This time next year, he will be a FORCE that will overwhelm Obama.

Sactorum would make a pretty good VP pairing with Herman.

Love Newt.. sure wish he’d stuck by his 2nd wife when she was in the hospital. If he had, he’d have a chance.


31 posted on 10/18/2011 7:13:40 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: mdittmar

Cain — They landed a few blows and he wasn’t at the top of his game tonight, but he didn’t hurt himself much.

Mitt — He’s gotten much quicker with his BS, but he still looks like a child trying to play president. He reminds me of one of the kids in adult clothes in those old Frosted Mini Wheats commercials.

Perry — Best debate yet for Rick, but that isn’t saying much. The RINO battles with Mitt made them both look stupid. And the similarity with the bickering that occurred with Santorum and Mitt made him look like a smaller candidate. He got in a few good lines, but good Lord, is he having seizures in the middle of every sentence or what? Someone check that man for TIAs.

Newt — The greatest guy that nobody wants to vote for.

Bachmann — Was playing Miss Priss while everyone attacked each other, except when she took shots at Cain. She came across as desperate, whiny, and annoying.

Santorum — Good show. He had much less to lose than Perry did by going toe to toe with Slick Willard. If he hadn’t lost PA by 20 points, he might be worth examining further.

Anderson Cooper — GAY. But, while the debate format was pretty bad, he did the best job as moderator I’ve seen in a debate so far this cycle.


32 posted on 10/18/2011 7:29:44 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Rick Perry got completely embaressed by Romney tonight. Just watched it on DVR- that part- could barely believe what I was hearing.

I hate Mitt, but he played that fool like a fiddle and made him look about 2 years old trying to play with the big boys.

Most people read that as a Alpha male smack down, and I think that was it for good for Perry.... he’s done.

The crowd turned on him, booing Perry, supporting Mitt.

God,Perry just awful. I’m pretty sure I could out argue/debate him.

I wouldn’t have expected this from him, and went into his candidacy with an open mind, but man... Obama would would hold his holier than though ‘tude over him so hard it wouldn’t even be funny.


33 posted on 10/18/2011 7:30:53 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: JosephMama

After all was said and done, Cain prevailed.


34 posted on 10/18/2011 7:36:24 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Rudder

Cain is the only one who got in a slam on Romney without the audience booing. That takes talent :-)


35 posted on 10/18/2011 7:40:56 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: mdittmar
Cain has a major problem and as bad as it is here on FreeRepublic it's worse in the real world. People have no idea how much they are paying in hidden taxation and how much it costs businesses to deal with taxes and regulations. I don't mind if the other candidates don't like his 9-9-9 plan, it's got its problems and they have every right to question it. But I would have felt a lot better if some of the other candidates had spent a few seconds acknowledging that our tax system needs to be gutted with a chainsaw, not nibbled at with a scalpel. I think Gingrich was the only one who did.
36 posted on 10/18/2011 7:44:01 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Newt’s daughter has been on Free Republic and shut down that lie about her parents.

1 - her parents agreed to a divorce BEFORE her mother was diagnosed with cancer.

2 - Newt took his children to visit her in the hospital. There were no angry words.

3 - her mother is akuve abd doing well; she doesn’t want to be bothered by the stupid lies about her ex-husband.

Put the lies to bed. It isn’t ttue.


37 posted on 10/18/2011 7:44:55 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

That’s actually a pretty good analysis. Kudos.


38 posted on 10/18/2011 7:45:47 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: alamogal
Cain bungled his way thru the hostage question. Avoided the 14th amendment question and looked weak on explaining the tax plan. Disappointing indeed.
39 posted on 10/18/2011 7:46:04 PM PDT by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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To: SatinDoll; SomeCallMeTim

3- her mother is alive and doing well;

Sorry for the typos!


40 posted on 10/18/2011 7:48:21 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: mdittmar

http://www.999calculator.net/


41 posted on 10/18/2011 8:01:40 PM PDT by Fred (But we are never going to survive unless we get a little crazy)
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To: SatinDoll
I had not heard that before. Thanks for posting what Newts daughter had to say.

Newt Gingrich is my candidate from here on. Not just because of what you posted, but he is clearly the smartest one, and will be able to hit the presidency running. He knows where the skeletons are in Congress, he knows both sides and I believe he can twist arms and get things done right off the bat.

What I want to see him talk more about now, is what he will do.

I am getting just sick and tired of this NEWT CAN'T WIN thing on FR. HE can win.

42 posted on 10/18/2011 8:15:56 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Vigilanteman
I wonder why the nomee wanna bees dont turn against the ENEMEDIA.

Start asking the germalists why they dont ask the questions we all know need to be asked!

Ask the ENEMEDIA the questions that we would have them ask! Watch them squirm!

43 posted on 10/18/2011 8:28:55 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: annieokie
I am sorry at one time I loved Newt, I could forgive the personal scandles. But he has bought into the global warming thing. He is too smart to actually believe it so he is an opportunist.

global warmist Newt

44 posted on 10/18/2011 8:44:15 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: mdittmar; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; ...
I can only take so much of this joke debate but one question stood out to me. It was about amending the 14th amendment birthright citizenship clause. Only one got it right perfectly: Bachmann.

Romney : Change the subject (flunk )
Cain : Change the subject(flunk )
Perry : No, don't amend.(flunk )
Bachmann : We don't need to amend the constitution. All we to do is just change the law.(Gold Star for Michelle)

TARP answers were discouraging too. I suspect anyone of these characters would have soiled their pants if they found themselves POTUS in Fall 2008 with that crisis after 8 years of office, and I still say TARP was bad. But what they should have done is to explain how they would have kept the country from getting into that condition in the first place. That would have shown their seriousness on the issue. But I can see seriousness this is not.

45 posted on 10/18/2011 8:51:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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Agree!!!!


46 posted on 10/18/2011 8:57:06 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Milt has that familiar insipid condescending grin on his smarmy face when the others are speaking, like he is so far above these poor mortals that he has to assume a pose in order to tolerate their presence.

The winner of the evening was barry soetoro, aka barry obama, aka Barry Dunham. I was actually in anguish for poor Rick Perry. The man is not stupid, he is educated, and he is a conservative. But he is just lost in these debate venues. That does not bode well for Commander-in-Chief or Chief Executive Officer of the Republic. I was so sad to witness that man's evening.

The media at Commie News Network were too obvious in their Milt Rominy service tonight. That they want him so badly ought to tell conservatives something very clearly is wrong with Milt Rominy. The enemedia believes he is the most beatable of the field if/when he comes up against their little barry bassturd boy! The media is literally wtting themselves to get the chance to destroy Milt and remove him as an obstacle for their commie-in-chief.

47 posted on 10/18/2011 9:08:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Milt has that familiar insipid condescending grin on his smarmy face when the others are speaking, like he is so far above these poor mortals that he has to assume a pose in order to tolerate their presence.

The winner of the evening was barry soetoro, aka barry obama, aka Barry Dunham. I was actually in anguish for poor Rick Perry. The man is not stupid, he is educated, and he is a conservative. But he is just lost in these debate venues. That does not bode well for Commander-in-Chief or Chief Executive Officer of the Republic. I was so sad to witness that man's evening.

The media at Commie News Network were too obvious in their Milt Rominy service tonight. That they want him so badly ought to tell conservatives something very clearly is wrong with Milt Rominy. The enemedia believes he is the most beatable of the field if/when he comes up against their little barry bassturd boy! The media is literally wetting themselves to get the chance to destroy Milt and remove him as an obstacle for their commie-in-chief.

48 posted on 10/18/2011 9:08:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

He reminds me of Biden.


49 posted on 10/18/2011 9:11:16 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
Yup, they both have that smartaleck comdescending grin on their posing faces. They make me sick to look at them.

I had a guy look at me that way one time during a business meeting. I asked to have a private word with him aside from the gathering. When he stepped outside the meeting at the coffee breeak I looked him square in the face and told him that if he ever met my gaze eye to eye ever again with that look, in public or private trying to intimidate me, I would rearrange his dental work to remove the asinine grin. As I finished, I leaned in close, so he could feel my breath since he had begun to shrink in stature and was down to my face level. He was about three inches taller than me, but he got the message. The guy never went anywhere with the company. Apparently others saw the same fool-faced grin and never considered him an equal, much less a superior.

50 posted on 10/18/2011 9:35:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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