http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/other/2005-09-27-sioux-arena_x.htm
Posted on 10/19/2011 5:33:10 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
UND officials have estimated the cost of retiring the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo at nearly $750,000, not counting the cost of changes that may occur at the privately-held Ralph Engelstad Arena.
University President Robert Kelley sent the estimates last week to a budget analyst and auditor with the North Dakota Legislative Council, in response to a request made by Rep. Mike Schatz, R-New England.
Schatz, who has declared that he will not support an attempt in next month's special legislative session to clear the way for retirement of the name and logo, said he asked for the cost information so he could attach a fiscal note to any bill contemplating that action.
"I wanted all the legislators to know the figures that the president estimated it would cost," Schatz said Tuesday. "I think that's been left out of the conversation so far."
The bulk of Kelley's cost estimate is $575,000 to develop a new nickname and logo, counting research, development, branding and launching. That also would include logo redesigns for special groups, such as Sioux Kids Club and Sioux Crew.
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So.....Begone....All Indian references....by your own foolishness. That is your history!!
If we get rid of all Indian names, half the cities in America will become nameless.
Following on that they will attack the special considerations Indians have ~ and will bust up and sell the reservations!
I don't care what the deal is when you hear white folks telling us how they are being sensitive to the Indians that always means they are getting ready to steal Indian lands!
I recall that the local Sioux tribe supported the continued use of the “Fighting Sioux” mascot/logo. Apparently that makes no difference to the racially hyper-sensitive who are pushing this agenda. Where does it all end?
Did the “Fighting Irish” get retired?
Just get some whiteout and make it “Fighting S_u_x”. Shouldn’t cost more than 30 bucks.
Some new names for them to consider:
The Terriffic Twinkies
The Mighty Muffins
The Sweet Honey Buns [that might have ‘other’ implications]
The Cheerful Cup Cakes
Would they be happier with the “Surrendering, Gay Sioux”?
Sale of the reservations ~ that’s where it always ends.
Very, very funny!
As for me, I demand that any school mascot who references a Scottsman be renamed.
Hoot Mon!
Perhaps with the oil boom going on in ND, UND should be called, the UND “Frackers”.
When Miami University in Ohio was pressured to change its nickname from the Redskins, I suggested that they just change the university’s name too so that the Miami tribe would be forgotten completely. Odd, that plan wasn’t appreciated. My other suggestion was that the name be changed from the Redskins to the Drunken Frat Boys because you are far more likely to run into those on a weekend that any Indians.
Englestad saw this coming so he had the logo built into the infrastructure every 10 feet.
Are members of the various Lakota tribes offended or is this just the concern of the politically correct crowd? I expect that soon this idiocy will expand with groups like PETA demanding an end to sports teams named Lions, Tigers, Bears etc.?
We can rename them all after famous communists. Maoville. Stalinville, Checrossing.
What’s sad here is that it is entirely the work of political busy-bodies and uber-Libs at the NCAA. The portrayal of a Fighting Sioux in the UND logo is actually flattering and noble, and most Sioux seem to actually support the nickname.
If they had a right to be upset about anything it would be that hideous Chief Wahoo logo used by the Cleveland Indians.
Here’s the solution -
they set up a fund with a goal of the $750,000.
Those who are “concerned” may contribute to this fund,
and when it reaches the goal, the renaming can begin.
Sioux City is SUX...
Yeah, as I recall he also said he’d significantly restrict the use of the arena if that nickname changed.
Never understood why to avoid NCAA sanction and at the same time screw them, the school didn’t change the name to the “the fighting sue” and have a lawyer as their mascot. Far more scary than any old Injun anyway, and even if it is an odd name, it’s not any worse than the Cardinal (a color) or the Banana Slugs.
As to the Redskins mascot that seems to be on its way to discard everywhere, seemed to me an easy transition that didn’t even require a name change. Just have a tourist with a white-zinced nose as your mascot. Loud shirt, camera, sunglasses, red sunburnt skin, you could even have new cheers incorporating stock tourist phrases like:
“Where’s the bathroom?!?!”
“We missed the turn, Martha!”
“Say cheese!”
Ask the entire Souix Nation. If they say dump then do it, if they say keep it then tell the NCAA to stuff it and to SHUT UP.
end to sports teams named Lions, Tigers, Bears - Oh my!
It is not cartoon-cute, and is not demeaning in any way.
The Spirit Lake Sioux have been pretty aggravated--but not over the nickname, they are mad that it is being 'forcibly retired'. Check out the articles Spirit Lake Sioux committee warns of ‘severe’ consequences if nickname goes and here and the website www.savethefightingsioux.com
I like it!
Fighting Frackers!
around 2000 logos plastered everywhere.
GRAND FORKS, N.D. (AP) – The artist who created the University of North Dakota’s current Fighting Sioux logo says he is proud of it and disappointed by its imminent demise but that life goes on .Bennett Brien, a Chippewa Indian who created the current Fighting Sioux logo for the University of North Dakota, says the politically correct crowd has “misinterpreted” what it symbolizes.”
“There are so many other problems we’ve got, real problems. Why spend all your energy on this?” Bennett Brien told the Grand Forks Herald.
Brien, who is Chippewa, created the American Indian head emblem for UND in 1999, when controversy over the school’s nickname was heating up and critics objected to earlier logos they found to be demeaning.
nothing will satisfy the leftist moonbat PC bedwetters.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/other/2005-09-27-sioux-arena_x.htm
Cardinal is also a bird. My HS was nicknamed the Cardinals.
It's not a bird in the one instance it is used. The "Cardinals" are not the same as the Stanford Cardinal. See http://www.gostanford.com/school-bio/stan-nickname-mascot.html
Interesting that given the thread topic, the Cardinal name was only revived after Stanford booted its own Indian mascot (I didn't know that before reading the link myself).
Anyway, I still think Ole Miss lost out by not taking Akbar when they had the opportunity.
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