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Retiring 'Fighting Sioux' nickname may cost $750,000
pioneer press ^ | 10-19-11 | Chuck Haga

Posted on 10/19/2011 5:33:10 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

UND officials have estimated the cost of retiring the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo at nearly $750,000, not counting the cost of changes that may occur at the privately-held Ralph Engelstad Arena.

University President Robert Kelley sent the estimates last week to a budget analyst and auditor with the North Dakota Legislative Council, in response to a request made by Rep. Mike Schatz, R-New England.

Schatz, who has declared that he will not support an attempt in next month's special legislative session to clear the way for retirement of the name and logo, said he asked for the cost information so he could attach a fiscal note to any bill contemplating that action.

"I wanted all the legislators to know the figures that the president estimated it would cost," Schatz said Tuesday. "I think that's been left out of the conversation so far."

The bulk of Kelley's cost estimate is $575,000 to develop a new nickname and logo, counting research, development, branding and launching. That also would include logo redesigns for special groups, such as Sioux Kids Club and Sioux Crew.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; cost; hypersensative; logo; ncaa; nd; ndsu; pc; politicallycorrect; sioux; siouxnation
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If it costs a trillion, it's all worth it to be politically correct...(sarc)
1 posted on 10/19/2011 5:33:12 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB
These names came about at a time when we were trying to preserve the heritage of the indians.

So.....Begone....All Indian references....by your own foolishness. That is your history!!

2 posted on 10/19/2011 5:42:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

If we get rid of all Indian names, half the cities in America will become nameless.


3 posted on 10/19/2011 5:51:03 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Sacajaweau
The intention of the proponents of this venture is to help build a base of understanding that Indians never existed, or if they were, they weren't any different than anybody else.

Following on that they will attack the special considerations Indians have ~ and will bust up and sell the reservations!

I don't care what the deal is when you hear white folks telling us how they are being sensitive to the Indians that always means they are getting ready to steal Indian lands!

4 posted on 10/19/2011 5:59:01 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sacajaweau

I recall that the local Sioux tribe supported the continued use of the “Fighting Sioux” mascot/logo. Apparently that makes no difference to the racially hyper-sensitive who are pushing this agenda. Where does it all end?


5 posted on 10/19/2011 6:01:48 AM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
[sarc] Perhaps we should retire and strip away all of these offensive references: Dakota, Mississippi, Illinois, Topeka, Milwaukee, and indirect references from the Kansa and the Ioway. Then we could rename these places with the right politically correct names. Missouri can be Political District #24 and Tulsa can be Work Camp #212. Ahhh. Paradise! And no one has their feelings hurt. [now get back to work!]
6 posted on 10/19/2011 6:02:31 AM PDT by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (I'm gonna' BICKER!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Did the “Fighting Irish” get retired?


7 posted on 10/19/2011 6:03:04 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Just get some whiteout and make it “Fighting S_u_x”. Shouldn’t cost more than 30 bucks.


8 posted on 10/19/2011 6:09:52 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Some new names for them to consider:

The Terriffic Twinkies
The Mighty Muffins
The Sweet Honey Buns [that might have ‘other’ implications]
The Cheerful Cup Cakes


9 posted on 10/19/2011 6:10:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Would they be happier with the “Surrendering, Gay Sioux”?


10 posted on 10/19/2011 6:10:52 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Tallguy

Sale of the reservations ~ that’s where it always ends.


11 posted on 10/19/2011 6:20:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: WKUHilltopper

Very, very funny!

As for me, I demand that any school mascot who references a Scottsman be renamed.

Hoot Mon!


12 posted on 10/19/2011 6:21:17 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Perhaps with the oil boom going on in ND, UND should be called, the UND “Frackers”.


13 posted on 10/19/2011 6:28:18 AM PDT by Patron92
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To: WOBBLY BOB

When Miami University in Ohio was pressured to change its nickname from the Redskins, I suggested that they just change the university’s name too so that the Miami tribe would be forgotten completely. Odd, that plan wasn’t appreciated. My other suggestion was that the name be changed from the Redskins to the Drunken Frat Boys because you are far more likely to run into those on a weekend that any Indians.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 6:29:53 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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To: KarlInOhio

Englestad saw this coming so he had the logo built into the infrastructure every 10 feet.


15 posted on 10/19/2011 6:32:50 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Are members of the various Lakota tribes offended or is this just the concern of the politically correct crowd? I expect that soon this idiocy will expand with groups like PETA demanding an end to sports teams named Lions, Tigers, Bears etc.?


16 posted on 10/19/2011 6:33:15 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We can rename them all after famous communists. Maoville. Stalinville, Checrossing.


17 posted on 10/19/2011 6:35:54 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

What’s sad here is that it is entirely the work of political busy-bodies and uber-Libs at the NCAA. The portrayal of a Fighting Sioux in the UND logo is actually flattering and noble, and most Sioux seem to actually support the nickname.

If they had a right to be upset about anything it would be that hideous Chief Wahoo logo used by the Cleveland Indians.


18 posted on 10/19/2011 6:40:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: The Great RJ

Here’s the solution -
they set up a fund with a goal of the $750,000.

Those who are “concerned” may contribute to this fund,
and when it reaches the goal, the renaming can begin.


19 posted on 10/19/2011 6:40:54 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: WKUHilltopper

Sioux City is SUX...


20 posted on 10/19/2011 6:46:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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