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R.I.P., America’s liberal-media elite (self-inflicted wounds kill their 'message'/agenda)
Yahoo ^ | 10/19/11 | Jon Friedman - MarketWatch

Posted on 10/19/2011 8:52:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Someday, cultural historians will look back on the early 21st century and speculate about what killed the credibility of America’s so-called liberal-media elite.

They will ask, Were the wounds self-inflicted or the product of a methodical plot?

Make no mistake about it. We did this to ourselves.

As a card-carrying member of the leftist media near-elite — alas, I’m not nearly rich or famous enough to be regarded as a 100% elitist — it pains me to see my brethren sinking like the sun in the west. But we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

We’ve been out of touch with what people on the streets are thinking. The problem is twofold. We didn’t care to listen to them, and by the time we heard them we had missed the opportunity to break the story and inform the public. We were followers, not leaders.

In the 20th century, the two biggest media triumphs were exposing the Vietnam War as a failure and the Watergate-soaked corruption of the Nixon administration. In those instances, heroic reporters had their ears to the ground. That’s the difference between then and now.

To be objective — like everyone says the media ought to be, but seldom are — and blunt, let me post this simple question: Why should anyone believe us any more?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: broadcastmedia; corruption; democrats; dinosaurmedia; dncmedia; elite; enemedia; fascistmedia; fraud; journolist; liberal; liberalmedia; liberals; mainstream; media; mediabias; mediacorruption; mediaelite; obamedia; pravdamedia; progressives; sorosmedia; theend; trends
Congrats, Leftists!

You did it all by yourselves.

1 posted on 10/19/2011 8:52:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Wow. That is the actual title.

And on CBS Market Watch, no less.

2 posted on 10/19/2011 8:56:17 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: NormsRevenge

You can’t kill a zombie.


3 posted on 10/19/2011 8:58:49 AM PDT by Leep
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To: NormsRevenge

In the 21st Century the biggest story so far is how a Marxist poser was elected President with fawning media.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 9:02:47 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

R.I.P., America’s liberal-media elite

Their bias was self-evident

their work sub-standard and so much junk


5 posted on 10/19/2011 9:06:01 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
At the end of the article, the author undercuts his own credibility by suggesting that the media dropped the ball by "shrugg[ing] off the protestors as members of the fringe, not as angry Americans who had something substantial to say about the depressing state of the union." This in a paragraph immediately following one criticizing his fellow mediocrats for not picking up on the significance of the TEA Party because "we didn't agree with it's politics."

The net effect is a laughable attempt to create an equivalence between the TEA Party and OWS.

Which is probably the whole point of the article and the reason it wasn't killed by an "I'm with the program" editor.

6 posted on 10/19/2011 9:07:02 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: NormsRevenge

Think this will change any of the socialist frauds minds that inhabit the MSM. I will have to read it to believe it.
These morons have been printing the idealogical lies so long it will take a change of ownership for these liars to start printing the truth. I will start to believe them when they print the truth about the AGW/IPCC CO2 scam, which they have been lying about for the past 20 years.


7 posted on 10/19/2011 9:14:26 AM PDT by spawn44
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To: Steely Tom

Yes...the author still doesn’t “get it”.


8 posted on 10/19/2011 9:17:24 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: NormsRevenge

Article still reaches the wrong conclusion and is claiming the occupypublicparks protest is something important and worthy of coverage.

These media people are just idiots when it comes to this stuff. What made the Tea Party remarkable was that people who do NOT normally protest showed up in large numbers to make a stand. Actual people with real jobs and families turned out to oppose the massive expansion of government. Those people were voters who ended up having a major impact on the 2010 elections.

The occupypublicparks vermin are the same people who ALWAYS turn out for a protest or a street party. These people are not normal, working Americans - they are lazy ignorant kids, professional protesters and far left loonies. The only way they will have any impact on 2012 is if they can assist the mainstream media with successfully changing the subject from Obama’s failures and government debt, to blaming bankers and “rich” people. There is nothing serious about these protests, most are either socialist/communists or too stupid to even understand why they are there or what they represent.


9 posted on 10/19/2011 9:18:59 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Leep

Actually, you can kill a zombie. To kill zombies, you need to destroy their brains. Unfortunately, we’re talking about reporters, who have no brains....................


10 posted on 10/19/2011 9:21:23 AM PDT by biggerten (Love you, Mom.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Uh . . their “successes” (Nixon & Vietnam War) were both pretty much, as usual, aimed at the “eeeeevil right”. So, nothing’s new, just getting WORSE is all - with no pretense of hiding it.

I wonder - did the German media “vet” Hitler? They certainly didn’t Obama. To their shame.


11 posted on 10/19/2011 9:24:12 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: NormsRevenge

Re: OWS..
“Is it a social movement? Is it a touchstone of a new counter-culture? Are the protestors idealistic, aimless or admirable? We can’t seem to make up our minds.”

Neither can the protestors.
There is much to suspect as the communists and Obama. (I repeat myself)...applaud.


12 posted on 10/19/2011 9:24:12 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: NormsRevenge

Please keep in mind that his “greatest Achievments” were going after and exposing problems with right wing / conservatinve issues/people. The fact that the left elistist ignored problems/people on the left is assumed to be okay.

(sigh) I could write a book about the hypocrocy of this guys admission.


13 posted on 10/19/2011 9:24:59 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country., Really! NOW!!!)
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To: dirtymac

Right you are. they would never say anything about, for example, Walter Duranty, the one-legged NYT Stalin apologist from the ‘30’s who claimed there was no Ukranian famine and got a Pulitzer prize for it.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 9:29:22 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: NormsRevenge

Interesting article - for a lefty, he gets a lot more right than one would expect - but by the end of the piece, he pretty much reverts to form.

As regards his three main points - 1) yes, the obamatrons are in way over their heads; 2) yes, the Tea Party was a legit expression of productive America’s frustration with the Washington elite and their policies; but 3) no, the “occupy” crowds do not represent a segment of American society worthy of serious attention.

The Wall Street demonstrations, as many have noted, are orchestrated attempts to shift the focus from Obama failures to easily-villified scapegoats.

Every participant in the those demonstrations that I’ve seen on tape or heard interviewed fits in one of three camps - paid (or union-recruited) mercenaries; fringe lefties; or total losers whose only self-worth comes from participating in some cause they view as worthwhile. Productive citizens? — sorry, if there are any in these mobs, they’re few and far between.


15 posted on 10/19/2011 9:40:35 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: NormsRevenge

One, is the author being sarcastic and denying the existence of the “leftist media elite”?

and Two, he needs to understand that one need not be “elite” to be “elitIST” (believing that the “elite” should run everything).


16 posted on 10/19/2011 9:43:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: NormsRevenge
The mistake is in describing intellectually dysfunctional human parrots as a "media-elite." They are in the media, but they represent the declining quality of American journalism, hardly a new elite.

Once again, may I suggest that we start calling such, as well as many in the Academia, who indoctrinated them, as "Mipips." ["Liberals" Or "Mipips" (Marxist Influenced Pseudo-Intellectual Poseurs)]

By the way, you can also include the Demagogue-In-Chief, teleprompters & all, in the pathetic category.

William Flax

17 posted on 10/19/2011 9:43:39 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: NormsRevenge

We are witness to the worst writing in America’s print media history. Newspapers and magazines are infested with no-talent hacks and ideologues. This Goebbel’s propagandist should be grateful we’re not hunting these Marxists down and hanging them for treason, although I still favor engaging that option in the near future.


18 posted on 10/19/2011 9:49:03 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: NormsRevenge

All a news organization has to sell is its credibility. Once that’s gone, they’re just talking to themselves. In pushing the leftist agenda, today’s media sacrificed their credibility entirely. Now they reap the harvest they sowed.


19 posted on 10/19/2011 9:52:41 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don’t want them to RIP, I want them to rot in hell!


20 posted on 10/19/2011 9:57:37 AM PDT by gunner03
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To: NormsRevenge
"We’ve been out of touch with what people on the streets are thinking. The problem is twofold. We didn’t care to listen to them, and by the time we heard them we had missed the opportunity to break the story and inform the public."

Huh? You didn't listen to the public and by the time you heard them it was too late to inform them of what they have been trying to tell you?

21 posted on 10/19/2011 10:00:42 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Tex-Con-Man

“YES...the author still doesn’t ‘get it’.”

Agreed. It seems as though most people don’t “get it” that this is a fluff piece. The author is trying to equate the OWS people with the TEA Party. He’s trying to give them legitimacy as a genuine grassroots phenomena. We need to continue to pound away at the MSM and point out that there is no comparison between the the two groups.

To wit, here’s a comment from a poster named “Scott”:

“Strange how the epiphany somehow involves giving BETTER and MORE coverage to the leftist protests. Typical self-serving fluff.”

He appears to be the only person on Yahoo who understands what the article is about, while everybody else is completely off the mark.


22 posted on 10/19/2011 10:02:11 AM PDT by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: NormsRevenge

in the seventies university j-schools taught their future

jourbalists to smirk and laugh at people they disagreed with,

to tow the new left party line, to use alinsky smear tactics,

and to have no regard for the truth.


23 posted on 10/19/2011 10:05:39 AM PDT by ken21
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To: IronJack

We have to disabuse ourselves once and for all that the media is a separate, distinct entity that just happens to favor one political side over the other.

They ARE the other side.

These are J-school grads who enter that field because they’re the most dedicated of the left lib brainwashed kids who view “journalism” as a prime career choice for spreading the gospel of statism and collectivism as well as nihilistic social issue beliefs.

(They state this as wanting to “make a difference” and “change the world”)

Look how easily they flitter in and out of Dem organizations
and administrations and vice versa.


24 posted on 10/19/2011 10:06:15 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: NormsRevenge

the purpose of the article is to legitimize the OWS crowd.


25 posted on 10/19/2011 10:09:23 AM PDT by Oratam
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26 posted on 10/19/2011 10:23:22 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: NormsRevenge
...media triumphs were exposing the Vietnam War as a failure...

The Vietnam War was a failure only because the media reported it as such. So says the "Victorious" General Giap of North Vietnam.

The reason the liberal media are going down the tubes is not just their bias. It's that their bias causes them to report easily verifiable lies. When they stopped disseminating information, they started losing customers.
27 posted on 10/19/2011 10:42:40 AM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: NormsRevenge
I urge FReepes to actually read the article. The author is completely delusional. The title is misleading as the author merely attempts misdirection by stating that it really isn't a liberal bias, but rather the media's failure to listen to the common man.

The author then attempts to cement the idea that George Bush ruined the economy and that the war in Iraq and Afghanistan were unprovoked. The author then tries to morally equate the occupy wall street miscreants with the Tea Party movement.

Interesting headline. Too bad the author uses subterfuge to dishonestly try and sell garbage.

28 posted on 10/19/2011 10:44:28 AM PDT by Obadiah (I am an official program sponsor of The Mitt Busters.)
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To: NormsRevenge
In the 20th century, the two biggest media triumphs were exposing the Vietnam War as a failure

Well, he go this part wrong. The media made us fail in Vietnam, especially after the Tet offensive which was a big failure on the communists part, but which the media made into a victory for them in the long run.

29 posted on 10/19/2011 10:50:47 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

even when they ‘come clean’, they still smell.

They don’t kill how many they kill or surrender to murderous thugs and despots..

They only care about declaring victory for themselves... standing amidst the ruins.


30 posted on 10/19/2011 11:00:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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oops

don’t kill know how many

31 posted on 10/19/2011 11:01:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Steely Tom
You don't have to read more than a few sentences to know what the author is up to:

We’ve been out of touch with what people on the streets are thinking.

The use of the plural in "on the streets" is the tip off. The usual term is "(the man) on the street." "Streets" indicates that he's talking about the Occupy people, i.e., the ones who espouse the same beliefs he does.

Nice try, Mr. Friedman.

32 posted on 10/19/2011 11:14:52 AM PDT by giotto
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To: NormsRevenge

We were followers, not leaders.

How about just being reporters for a change?


33 posted on 10/19/2011 1:51:46 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: NormsRevenge
In the 20th century, the two biggest media triumphs were exposing the Vietnam War as a failure and the Watergate-soaked corruption of the Nixon administration. In those instances, heroic reporters had their ears to the ground. That’s the difference between then and now.

Typical opinion from a 60's liberal self-centered brat.

34 posted on 10/19/2011 4:20:19 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Romney as president will just destroy the country slower than Obama.)
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To: Steely Tom

Exactly. He even exposes his own stupidity by saying OWS isn’t just a fringe “like the Tea Party”. BULL!


35 posted on 10/19/2011 4:23:35 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Romney as president will just destroy the country slower than Obama.)
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