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Clerk at Delís 24 Hour shop shoots, kills would-be robber who grabbed child
Naples News ^ | 18 OCT 11 | By VICTORIA MACCHI

Posted on 10/19/2011 9:26:13 AM PDT by DCBryan1

EAST NAPLES — A clerk at a landmark East Naples corner store shot and killed a man Tuesday as he attempted to rob the family-run shop and flee with her 1-year-old daughter.

The man, whose name was not released, demanded money from Elizabeth Easterly, a clerk at Del’s 24 Hour Food Store, and then grabbed a stroller that held Easterly’s baby, said Del Ackerman, the store’s owner and Easterly’s grandfather.

Easterly, 22, was alone during a shift change, running the shop with her 1- and 2-year-old daughters there, Ackerman said.

“I almost lost my two babies,” Ackerman said of his great-granddaughters.

The children were unharmed. However, a bloodied stroller remained inside the front door for hours as investigators gathered evidence and interviewed witnesses at the scene.

Around 3 p.m. a man entered the store, 2802 Thomasson Dr., “acting erratically,” Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Jamie Mosbach said.

As the man made for the front door with the child, Easterly did just as she had been taught — she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber’s knee, Ackerman said.

Bleeding, the man was then tackled outside the front door by a store employee who was about to start his shift and was walking toward the store when the shooting happened. A pool of blood and a bloodied pair of men’s athletic shoes marked where the man was held down until deputies arrived at the scene.

The man was transported to NCH Downtown Naples Hospital. He died from his injuries.

Deputies diverted traffic at the intersection of Thomasson and Bayshore drives for two hours following the shooting. Easterly could be seen inside the store as a swarm of patrol cars and investigators blocked off the scene. Both her husband and Ackermen had left the store less than half an hour before the attempted robbery.

Across the street, Nik Merlos and Gloria Angeles huddled under a bus awning with their 14-month-old daughter as deputies took down crime scene tape. Angeles had made a quick trip to Del’s around 2 p.m.

“I knew there were creepy people around, but not that bad,” said Merlos, who has lived in the Bayshore area for seven years.

In September 2009, three masked men pistol whipped a clerk at Del’s, robbed her at gunpoint, and then stole her car. It was a blemish in nearly half a century of serving the community that didn’t stop Ackerman from opening the doors again.

“They’ve tried to clean (the neighborhood) up a lot,” said Shannon Marcum, who lives two blocks from Del’s and grew up in the neighborhood. “They’ve succeeded somewhat.”

Three hours after the shooting, Ackerman questioned whether he would bounce back. Though his granddaughter and great-grandchildren were unharmed, the threat frazzled him.

“Under these circumstances? I would consider (closing),” he said. “I’d rather have life than money.”

Known as a neighborhood stalwart, he has kept the shop open 24 hours a day for 47 years, through hurricanes and families tragedies.

But with a dozen employees working to keep the store open round the clock, too many people would be affected by shutting the doors, he decided.

As hard as we’ve worked in this town ... are we going to let one person of any kind knock my family and my babies out?” Ackerman said. “No way.”

The Sheriff’s Office is continuing its investigation. It is unclear if Easterly could face criminal charges in the shooting.


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The irony....
....is ironic.

From the crime scene:

Photo by LEXEY SWALL // Buy this photo
Lexey Swall/Staff Collier County Crime Scene Investigators collect evidence at the scene of a shooting Tuesday afternoon at Del's 24 Hour Food Store on Thomasson Drive in East Naples.

1 posted on 10/19/2011 9:26:24 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1

Died from a knee injury ? Maybe he just realised he would never get a basketball contract, and just died from heartbreak ?


2 posted on 10/19/2011 9:29:22 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: DCBryan1

All’s well that ends well.

That said, why was she taught to aim for the knee? And where did she actually hit him to kill him?


3 posted on 10/19/2011 9:30:33 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: DCBryan1

Everyone knows you never go near the bear cubs.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 9:31:29 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: marktwain; bang_list; Joe Brower
....the person that trained the woman to "aim for the knee" needs to be horsewhipped. If the guy had survived, some scumbag lawyer would have sued Del's for maiming him.

Some scumbag, anti-gun prosecutor would have thrown the clerk into the clink for an unjustified shooting, given the spurious arguement that if her life was TRUELY threatened, then she would have shot him in the chest/head, not to maim "the poor, misunderstood, getting his life on the right track, off his medications, poor, picked on, minority, criminal, who was a good boy!"

Anyways, bonus points for a chick hitting the femoral artery and letting the perp bleed out OUTSIDE of the restaurant. I hope his last 2-3 minutes of conciousness while in excruciating pain, that he found Jesus and asked for forgiveness.

Bonus BONUS points for saving the community from losing more taxpayer money.

5 posted on 10/19/2011 9:31:52 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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To: DCBryan1

whoever “taught” her to shoot for the knee ...should be shot in the knee.


6 posted on 10/19/2011 9:32:00 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Second Amendment First

I know there is a major blood vessel in the upper thigh area but not the knee. I’m sort of wondering how one dies from a knee shot?!


7 posted on 10/19/2011 9:32:31 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Celerity

> Died from a knee injury ?

Probably a severed femoral artery. Only takes a few minutes to bleed out.

Too bad they didn’t apply a tourniquet. He might have survived and only lost the lower leg.


8 posted on 10/19/2011 9:33:25 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: DCBryan1

For those who say “A shot in the knee is ridiculous, you’ll never stop him and only make the attacker mad. Only in the movies!”.......;)


9 posted on 10/19/2011 9:35:02 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Celerity
Died from a knee injury ?

I suspect that this had something to do with it:

the man was then tackled outside the front door by a store employee

They should have "tackled" the Muslim on the Amarillo plane like this one was "tackled".

10 posted on 10/19/2011 9:35:02 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: momtothree

It doesn’t say where she actually hit the perp. Maybe in the heart. Perhaps she was taught to aim there by someone who was familiar with her shooting.


11 posted on 10/19/2011 9:35:43 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: DCBryan1
...Easterly did just as she had been taught — she drew a gun and aimed for the would-be robber’s knee...

Worst advice ever.

12 posted on 10/19/2011 9:35:51 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: momtothree

A blood clot (timy bone fragment from bullet smashing bones in the knee perhaps) rushing to the lungs results in a pulmonary embolism and a person dies pretty quickly. That’s one way. There is also an artery running behind the knee toward the ankle.


13 posted on 10/19/2011 9:36:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Well, maybe, just maybe she didn’t have it in her heart to want to kill anyone. Maybe thats why she was trained to shoot for the knee.Yes, I would have aimed at the chest or head, especialy since most strolers are about knee level.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 9:36:58 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: Second Amendment First
And where did she actually hit him to kill him?

If her shot hit him a bit higher than the knee, say in the femoral artery, well it wouldn't take long before he'd be pushing up the daisies.

15 posted on 10/19/2011 9:37:18 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Celerity

Maybe she missed his knee, and hit a little higher?


16 posted on 10/19/2011 9:37:33 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: DCBryan1

“It is unclear if Easterly could face criminal charges in the shooting.”

Armed robber attempting kidnap of baby????
To whom is it “unclear”?

What’s with being taught to shoot him in the knee??
Seems she was capable of shooting straight, so why not center mass??
He was armed and a shot to the knee doesn’t stop him from shooting back!!


17 posted on 10/19/2011 9:37:58 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: DCBryan1
...aimed for the would-be robber’s knee...

She said that for insurance purposes./s

18 posted on 10/19/2011 9:38:32 AM PDT by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: Celerity
probably hit the femoral artery in the leg....if no tourniquet was applied soon after the shot, he would have bled to death....

thankfully no one applied the requisite tourniquet

19 posted on 10/19/2011 9:38:56 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: momtothree

Story sounds like the perp died of shock because of blood loss.


20 posted on 10/19/2011 9:39:56 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: DCBryan1

I love a happy ending.


21 posted on 10/19/2011 9:41:00 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Celerity
Died from a knee injury ? Maybe he just realised he would never get a basketball contract, and just died from heartbreak ?

You do realize that arteries would have to pass through the knee, right?

Which is why any talk about "shooting to wound" is the blather of idiots.

22 posted on 10/19/2011 9:41:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Westbrook
Too bad they didn’t apply a tourniquet. He might have survived and only lost the lower leg.

Too bad, so sad.

23 posted on 10/19/2011 9:41:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: G Larry

The article never mentioned if the robber was armed.


24 posted on 10/19/2011 9:42:44 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: WOBBLY BOB; Second Amendment First
whoever “taught” her to shoot for the knee ...

I think that you both are getting too hyper and depending upon what may be bad reporting. The story says that the robber "grabbed a stroller that held Easterly’s [year old] baby" and was going out the door. Perhaps the knee was the clearest target and that she was taught to aim at the clearest unobstructed target?

In my opinion she practiced good gun control, she put the shot where she aimed at a moment of maximum stress! Kudos and blessing to this lady and her family!

25 posted on 10/19/2011 9:42:51 AM PDT by SES1066 (Vote in 2012 for OUR CIVIL RIGHTS not the Left's!)
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To: Vaquero

Hmmmm. Your BABY IS IN THE STROLLER AT KNEE LEVEL and you don’t do a center mass shot????


26 posted on 10/19/2011 9:43:19 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1001 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: momtothree

During the Battle of Shiloh during the Civil War, Comfederate General Albert Johnston was struck in the back of the knee by a spent bullet, which only partially penetrated. It severed a vital artery and Johnston bled to death before anyone realized he’d been injured.


27 posted on 10/19/2011 9:43:26 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: MrEdd

Gee I guess this dummy perk should have stayed in bed, oh well at leasst there was a happy ending.


28 posted on 10/19/2011 9:44:02 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: MHGinTN

I’m thinking that the artery must have been hit. How else could he just die... he would have had to bleed to death. Now... I wonder if the store owner was taught to shoot at the knee to prevent death? Wouldn’t that just be strange Karma or what?


29 posted on 10/19/2011 9:44:24 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Celerity

Did you go to the web site for the news?


30 posted on 10/19/2011 9:44:35 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: MrEdd

Gee I guess this dummy perp should have stayed in bed, oh well at leasst there was a happy ending.


31 posted on 10/19/2011 9:44:40 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Vaquero
thankfully no one applied the requisite tourniquet

LOL...there is a concealed handgun instructor here that, humorously, teaches that after your attacker goes down, be sure to give him chest compressions until the cops arrive.

1) The attacker exsanguinates before the cops arrive, and
2) Cops will testify upon pulling up that the shooter was giving first aid, giving credence to the trained CCW shooter that he/she didn't want to kill the attacker, but simply shot the attacker until the attack stopped.

I train them to maintain security, reload, and then dial 911 and don't touch the damn blood. If it was a good shoot, you don't have to do much after "BANG" other than tell the cops you were in fear for your life, and you want any statements made in your lawyers office.

32 posted on 10/19/2011 9:46:05 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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To: SES1066

Don’t think I was being “hyper”, but do agree the reporting is at best incomplete. Never said where he was hit.


33 posted on 10/19/2011 9:46:48 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: DCBryan1

It all transpired exactly as it should have.
NOTE TO ALL STORE ROBBERS: If you’re going to be
reckless and stupid enough to rob a store, don’t be
even stupider to think you could make off with a one
year old in a stroller. That’ll get you dead for sure,
and you’ll deserve it.


34 posted on 10/19/2011 9:47:04 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: eastforker
The article never mentioned if the robber was armed.

No....but he was "legged". :)

35 posted on 10/19/2011 9:47:04 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ("Forget the Lawyers! FIRST YOU MUST kill the journalists!" - Die Ritter, die sagen, "nee"!)
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To: Celerity

Naples News,that is. I admit I did because I wondered what the perp looked like.


36 posted on 10/19/2011 9:47:04 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: DCBryan1

Yep. Intentionally using less-than-deadly force (knee shot) suggests strongly that you were faced with less than a deadly threat, and therefore had no business using a deadly weapon. Even a bad lawyer could win that case.

Shoot to stop. Center mass. Always.


37 posted on 10/19/2011 9:47:24 AM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Second Amendment First
That said, why was she taught to aim for the knee? And where did she actually hit him to kill him?

She was aiming for his knee but the first shot hit him in the spine and the next 8 shots hit him in the ass, back and nutz.

This post is not an actual representation of the facts, only my hope for a change.

38 posted on 10/19/2011 9:47:30 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: Stonewall Jackson

I guess it is more common than I ever knew! I was always taught to hit center mass/or a head shot but never a knee. I the center of mass is a bigger target than a knee but good to know.


39 posted on 10/19/2011 9:47:56 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: DCBryan1
“They’ve tried to clean (the neighborhood) up a lot,” said Shannon Marcum, who lives two blocks from Del’s and grew up in the neighborhood. “They’ve succeeded somewhat.”

Yes, yes they have.

40 posted on 10/19/2011 9:49:57 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: DCBryan1

One less piece of human (more than likely sub-human) debris walking around this earth thanks to an armed civilian.

This saved the taxpayers a few hundred thousand dollars at least in courtroom shenanigans and hopefully deprived a scumbag lawyer of a few hundred billable hours.


41 posted on 10/19/2011 9:50:13 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: momtothree

See #37 as well...


42 posted on 10/19/2011 9:50:20 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1001 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: USS Alaska

LOL! Nutz.


43 posted on 10/19/2011 9:51:08 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: Second Amendment First
That said, why was she taught to aim for the knee?

The perp was carrying a kidnap victim.

I SPECULATE that she may possibly have received training which hypothetically suggested that in such a case, the defending citizen should shoot the perp in the legs to avoid injuring the kidnap victim.

44 posted on 10/19/2011 9:51:10 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DCBryan1
I train them to maintain security, reload, and then dial 911 and don't touch the damn blood. If it was a good shoot, you don't have to do much after "BANG" other than tell the cops you were in fear for your life, and you want any statements made in your lawyers office.

Absolute best advice and I remind my loved ones about it periodically.

45 posted on 10/19/2011 9:52:41 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: null and void

Yes... I don’t know if the “I tried to wing him” defense would be so good... a lawyer could really twist that. However, if she said that he was holding the baby in the stroller (around his chest area) then striking him below that point would make sense.


46 posted on 10/19/2011 9:53:53 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Celerity
Died from a knee injury ?

Exsanguination. Thank God, no one thought to apply a tourniquet.

47 posted on 10/19/2011 9:56:16 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: SES1066

I never thought of that. It could be she pulled the gun, the guy got scared and picked up the stroler and ran with it and the knee was the safest for the kid.


48 posted on 10/19/2011 9:56:22 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: Ramius

rule # 1 after a shooting:

do NOT talk to police or reporters unless/until you’ve talked to your lawyer and said lawyer is WITH you.

otherwise, you make excited and STUPID statements like this that can/will be used in court of law against you.


49 posted on 10/19/2011 9:56:41 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: ArrogantBustard

I think she was taught to *say* she was aiming for the knee.

“Hit him in the chest? Darn, I was only aiming for his knee.”


50 posted on 10/19/2011 9:56:52 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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