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Clinton in Afghanistan 'to urge Taliban reconciliation'
BBC ^ | October 20th 2011 | Staff

Posted on 10/20/2011 12:41:43 AM PDT by Cardhu

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is in Afghanistan to encourage President Hamid Karzai to continue efforts to reconcile with the Taliban.

Mr Karzai has expressed frustration at the process after the assassinations of several key Afghan leaders.

US officials say Mrs Clinton also wants to convince Afghans that Washington is committed to a long-term relationship with their country.

The US is planning to withdraw troops and hand over security to the Afghans.

"She wants to signal US support for a secure and stable Afghanistan," a US official told journalists travelling with Mrs Clinton.

Her visit to Afghanistan was not announced until she arrived in Kabul late on Wednesday.

Brazen assaults

"She wants to emphasise that the United States remains committed to Afghan reconciliation and will support President Karzai in his efforts, recognising the difficulties that process has undergone since the assassination of [Burhanuddin] Rabbani," the official added.

Burhanuddin Rabbani was a former Afghan president tasked with trying to reconcile the Taliban with Mr Karzai's US-backed government. He was killed last month by a suicide bomber posing as a Taliban envoy.

Mrs Clinton met civic leaders at the US embassy in Kabul before her scheduled meeting with President Karzai.

She assured women's rights activists, education officials and politicians that their concerns were "being heard at the highest levels of the US government".

"I am here to have a reality check," she said.

"I want to hear what people in Afghanistan are thinking about the way forward."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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"After the Rabbani killing, Mr Karzai suggested that Pakistan might be better placed to negotiate with the Taliban."
1 posted on 10/20/2011 12:41:48 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

See also:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2795378/posts

Comments from Pakistan who were unaware of Clinton’s visit at the time.


2 posted on 10/20/2011 1:13:10 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
"A secure and stable Afghanistan"?

The only thing preventing it is Muslims.

3 posted on 10/20/2011 2:03:02 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Wasn’t a few months ago that Karsai wanted to negotiate with the Taliban and Washington was against it. It seems as if they have both shifted positions by 180º


4 posted on 10/20/2011 2:12:24 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu; dead
I think Madame Secretary should head off into the wilds of Afghanistan with a bull horn, and call out to the Taliban that she is ready to engage in sincere negotiations.

And keep an eye out for Mullah Omar. (heh)
5 posted on 10/20/2011 3:11:27 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front.)
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To: Cardhu
We can't or won't do what it takes to kill all of them and I suspect negotiation is going to backfire. The whole damned middle east is a boil on the worlds butt and it's going to stay that way as long as muslims run things.

We should protect Israel but nothing else over there is worth sacrificing our sons and daughters for.

We sure don't need to import any more of them here, trouble follows them like white on rice.

6 posted on 10/20/2011 3:28:12 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“We sure don’t need to import any more of them here, trouble follows them like white on rice.”

As long as they are here, they will NEVER stop trying to destroy us either. It’s their mission.


7 posted on 10/20/2011 3:35:13 AM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's free, swipe your EBT!")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
“A secure and stable Afghanistan”?
The only thing preventing it is Muslims.

lets start thinning down our PRESENCE around the world...

as far as I am concerned we SHOULD leave...both Iraq, and Afghanistan...

but do it right...declare victory and leave.

Bin Laden is Dead....KSM is in jail....Anwar al-Awlaki was just killed by drones in Yemen.

let these 3rd world, dark age idiots, live and die by there own hands...and ban any future Islamics from moving to the USA.

we are not wanted nor loved in Europe, Japan and Korea....
so pull them out...we have enough nuclear weapons to prevent a major attack...BUT not a stealth attack across our borders

SO...finally take all remaining military and place them along our southern border (and if necessary our northern border and coasts)....

8 posted on 10/20/2011 3:48:18 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

You forgot Libya and Uganda.


9 posted on 10/20/2011 6:54:12 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Cardhu; All

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is in Afghanistan to encourage President Hamid Karzai to continue efforts to reconcile with the Taliban.
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the USA wants Karzai to be nice to the Taliban.
who are terrorists, and even destroy girls schools.

our troops in Afghanistan are sometimes DENIED
air and artillery support, to avoid hurting civilians.

yet USA bombed the —— out of Libya,
even TV stations in Tripoli,
to get rid of the evil Qaddafi,
so he’d stop hurting civilians.
(with his VOICE?!?)

and when innocent civilians in Egypt are murdered and raped,
Obama tells them to stop “provoking” violence.)

...the only consistent theme, is that our Government (when controlled by liberals) always supports the Islamists.

even Clinton bombed Christians, to support Islamists in Kosovo.

Christian churches are burned in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Pakistan, Egypt, etc.,
and it’s crickets...


10 posted on 10/20/2011 7:26:01 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cardhu

I thought we were in Afghanistan to kill the Taliban. WTF?


11 posted on 10/20/2011 9:04:15 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: Cardhu

whut?
Is she high?


12 posted on 10/20/2011 3:15:16 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

On the basis of what? Wow, this one is stupid even for her. Thanks Cardhu.


13 posted on 10/20/2011 4:06:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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14 posted on 10/20/2011 4:24:06 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Cardhu
The "smartest woman in the world" wants to talk with murdering scum who shoot innocent women in soccor stadiums, simply because those women were raped?

I swear, I have never hated our Fedgov more.

15 posted on 10/20/2011 5:44:00 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (PATRIOTIC PEOPLE POWER against any foreign or domestic totalitarians! I like lemonade stands!)
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To: Cardhu

In a way he is right. Taliban is & has always been a product of Pakistan not Afghanistan. Even Afghanis who belong to the Taliban ‘movement’ were taught Taliban’s (Taa-leh-baan’s) Islamic ideology in Pakistan, beginning during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and were, largely, funded by the Saudis. Currently (& since US invasion in 2001) there are more Talibans in Pakistan than Afghanistan. To address the Taliban, one needs to deal w/ Pakistan.

But, to say ‘reconcile’ with the Taliban is really admitting defeat and spitting in the face of all those soldiers & civilians killed in the past 10 yrs - not to mention their families.


16 posted on 10/20/2011 5:45:34 PM PDT by odds
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To: Cardhu

bump.


17 posted on 10/20/2011 5:58:51 PM PDT by ken21
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To: odds

You are right - but America has to get out in some way that is plausible


18 posted on 10/20/2011 5:59:06 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: odds

You are right - but America has to get out in some way that is plausible


19 posted on 10/20/2011 5:59:32 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: A Navy Vet
I'm starting to agree with those who say nuke them into oblivion. We can't nuke them into the stone age, 'cause that's where they want to live. Kill every last soul in Afghan and any other country that is against Western values.

And screw you bleeding hearts who whine about the innocents. We didn't care when we carpet-bombed Dresden or Tokyo, and definitely didn't care when we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Either their own people change their system to work with the world community, or annihilate every last one.

I don't care any longer. God will take care of the innocents. And if not, so what? We all die. I just prefer they and their children go before ours. Got problem? If so, I'll be happy to paint you a picture of the so-called Palistians and how they teach their children to HATE. I can even recommend a documentary called, "Children of Gaza". It's an eye-opener about Muslim a-holes and what they teach their children. Geeze, they even teach them that Jews drink human blood. How more a** crazy do you want?

20 posted on 10/20/2011 6:08:01 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (PATRIOTIC PEOPLE POWER against any foreign or domestic totalitarians! I like lemonade stands!)
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To: Cardhu

The ghost of Chamberlain does still roam freely.... =.=


21 posted on 10/20/2011 6:48:28 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Vaquero

>>but do it right...declare victory and leave.

Leave so Chinese and Russian criminal oligarchical collectivists can secure the regional resources of Iraq and Afghanistan to further their agenda?

Bad idea.

We should’ve been buldozing the Opium fields instead of protecting them.


22 posted on 10/21/2011 6:28:53 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
who are you? the Afghan police?

no deal...we get attacked on 9-11 and we go in and kill the perps....then out....

unless we are willing to fight a war till war criminals beg for us to stop like WW2 ...we are just in another police action vietnam type morass....Curtis Lemay was right, you bomb them into the stone age...that is how you win a war...

fight the war, win the war ....get the ____ out.

23 posted on 10/21/2011 8:09:27 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: mkjessup

They can keep her, if they want. Really. Consider her a Gift from Obama.

Just sayin’...


24 posted on 10/21/2011 8:46:00 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: A Navy Vet

“...And screw you bleeding hearts who whine about the innocents. We didn’t care when we carpet-bombed Dresden or Tokyo, and definitely didn’t care when we nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki...”

I wonder how the 1940s version of “liberals” reacted to those events...

We were a different country back then, brother. We knew that “the road home leads through Berlin and Tokyo” - with travel deviations through places like Dresden, Hiroshima, et al, and we were determined to get HOME by any means necessary; and if that meant over the bodies of those suporting the war machines from Imperial Dai Nippon and National SOCIALIST Germany, so be it.

Imagine if we would have had the same level of determination to remove the International SOCIALISTS in our own midst at the time, we wouldn’t be in this predicament now.

I don’t know if that level of sociatel cohesiveness exists anymore in this country; we’ve let the dem libs and their communist/socialist pals deteriorate and basically erase our culture to the point where we can’t even decide to call the enemy the enemy.

Not “we” as in ALL of us...but the “official” we that’s supposed to be defending and guarding the country.

Hell, THEY let them in, THEY didn’t watch the bastards, and THEY took their eyes off the ball, which let 19 Saudi Islamobastards fly aircraft into the WTC and the Pentagon.

Did any heads roll, besides those of innocent citizens who were murdered? Did any Alphabet Agency personnel lose jobs for letting these animals into the country and then lose track of them? I don’t think so. We got MORE Alphabet Agencies as a result.

No, we were a vastly different society back then...a better one, I think, than we’ll ever know or see again - at least for a while.


25 posted on 10/21/2011 8:58:15 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Vaquero

>>win the war ...

That’s not accomplished by leaving the terrorist’s #1 source of income, opium, untouched.

FAIL.


26 posted on 10/25/2011 6:05:19 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

the terrorists have all the oil in the persian gulf...you make no point...(OBL was filthy rich with dads....we needed to bomb the saudis and other oil rich states that fund the terrorists)

by your logic we need to occupy columbia...

stop playing world cop.


27 posted on 10/26/2011 4:41:51 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

>>.you make no point..

U.S. MARINES PROTECT AFGHAN’S POPPY FIELDS

Obama’s First Order: Don’t Hurt the Heroin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2287687/posts

ESAD - If you do, you will, dumbass.


28 posted on 10/26/2011 6:05:51 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Vaquero

[we needed to bomb the saudis and other oil rich states ]

Tell us, suuper genius, what’s your plan for rebooting the global economy after you’ve “bombed” the hegemony of the petrodollar?

Meanwhile, what purpose does protecting the Afghan opium field serve?

The appetite of tyranny is never far removed from the tyranny of the appetite.

“Wolverines” LOL. Idiot. Been drinking the Hollywood Red kool-aid much?


29 posted on 10/27/2011 6:44:09 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
first off thanks for being civil and not being abusive(snicker)...

enough petroleum products capable of being produced right here...and natural gas is off the charts if we allow ourselves to produce it.

Cuba funded by other commie states are drilling the gulf...but we cant because we have a marxist in office and enough RINOs in congress to whine about green things and back the idiots who inhabit the WH.

we do not need the Middle East. They need us.

I do not know that we are protecting the opium fields...that sounds like a zer0 thing to be sure...but we need to correct OUR drug problem....not go halfway around the world to correct it.

30 posted on 10/27/2011 7:44:52 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

[enough petroleum products capable of being produced right here..]

But those domestic products are not what secures the hegemony and value of the dollar.

Would you rather OPEC’s oil be priced in Euros/Rubles?


31 posted on 10/27/2011 5:48:46 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

you put domestic oil/gass into production.

OPEC then lowers its price and you buy as much oil there as you want for a better price...


32 posted on 10/27/2011 5:58:04 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

[I do not know that we are protecting the opium fields..]

" Obama’s First Order: Don’t Hurt the Heroin "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2287687/posts

 


"Afghanistan still world's top opium supplier, despite 10 years of US-led war

Despite increased eradication efforts in Afghanistan, opium cultivation rose by 7 percent in 2011 as compared to last year, according to a new United Nations report. Production is up 61 percent."

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2011/1011/Afghanistan-still-world-s-top-opium-supplier-despite-10-years-of-US-led-war



Noting to see there. Mooove along.



Tata.

33 posted on 10/27/2011 6:06:03 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
so if we are not in Afghanistan we wont be there to protect the poppy trade....with zer0bama in office we are all better off with the military back home...
34 posted on 10/27/2011 6:50:44 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

[OPEC then lowers its price]

Thus lowering global demand for petroDOLLARs.

Economics 101: Supply+Demand=Value

What happens to the value/price of the Dollar when the demand for it drops?

Now compound that with your suggestion that we bomb OPEC:

1. Observe the defacto agreement between OPEC and the USA that OPEC will sell oil only in Dollars.

2. Observe that agreement’s effect upon demand for the petroDOLLAR.

3. What happens to the demand for (and value of) the dollar when President Wiley Vaquero, suuuper genius, unpacks his ACME pred-O-bomber and attacks OPEC with it?


35 posted on 10/27/2011 6:58:53 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Vaquero

[so if we are not in Afghanistan we wont be there to protect the poppy trade....]

Or to keep the Taliban from using the poppy trade to fund their activities whilst poisoning the children of its American infidel enemies with the end product.

Back to bidness as usual for the Taliban, with a failed American campaign in the rearview mirror — coinkidinkly just as “former” KGB director Vlad Putin gets “elected” president of Russia for life.

FAIL.


36 posted on 10/27/2011 7:10:28 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
our job in Afghanistan was to kill Osama...and his other minions...most of the architects are dead or captured.

Police our borders from drug smugglers, stop allowing Islamics to immigrate here....kick out the rest(non citizens)....

we are not the worlds police...

37 posted on 10/28/2011 6:49:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

>>our job in Afghanistan was to

...remove the Taliban from power.

Got squeaky shoes?

FAIL.

Tata.


38 posted on 10/30/2011 7:28:59 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill
The War in Afghanistan began on October 7, 2001, as the armed forces of the United States of America, the United Kingdom and the Afghan United Front (Northern Alliance) launched Operation Enduring Freedom. The primary driver of the invasion was the September 11 attacks on the United States, with the stated goal of dismantling the Al-Qaeda terrorist organization and ending its use of Afghanistan as a base. The United States ALSO said that it would remove the Taliban regime from power and create a viable democratic state.
39 posted on 10/31/2011 4:02:30 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

[The United States ALSO said that it would remove the Taliban regime from power and create a viable democratic state.]

Which brings us back to reality land and the subject of this thread:

“Clinton in Afghanistan ‘to urge Taliban reconciliation’,”

FAIL.


40 posted on 11/01/2011 5:37:08 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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