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RADICAL JIHADIST WEBSITE IN ARABIC SUPPORTING "OCCUPY WALL STREET" MOVEMENT (Just Found)
Hanein Website (in Arabic) ^ | 20 October 2011 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 10/20/2011 5:10:13 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

Some Islamist (Wahhabist/Sunni) fundamentalist anti-American terrorists have been uncovered and are apparantly in support of the "Occupy Wall Street Movement" in the United States, and providing moral and perhaps personnel support based on monitoring of their Arabic language website. FBI and local law enforcement anti-terrorist units should be notified.

Apologies for the link to this group's site (and the specific web section in which they promote "Occupy Wall Street"), but it proves the wider point for evidence' sake. FR of course does not condone nor support such activity (disclaimer).

For information and investigative journalist purposes only. The site supporting this movement in cities across America is "Hanein" (شبكة حنين ).


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From open source counterintelligence site ("Markedmanner") which monitors these Arabic-language Jihadist sites, this one actually located in the USA but linking to and promoting al-Qaeda and violent Jihad on the West. If one can read Arabic, you will see they are reporting positively on the "American Revolution" (OWS) and seem to be urging people to be involved.

Explantory text from Markedmanner: "The website http://www.hanein.info/ is yet another website hosted in America that contains enemy propoganda. According to a WHOIS query this website is registered to a company in Georgia. You can email them to let them know they are hosting a terrorist website at abuse@gnax.net or call them at 1-404-230-9150 You can view the english translated version of this site via google HERE

They post the new Bin Laden audio here: http://www.hanein.info/vb/showthread.php?t=39943 and give him praise. Here is what some of the users say in this post about Bin Laden....

"God Save Mujahideen Sheikh Osama Bin Laden"...

"God Save Sheikh Osama Bin Laden... God united ranks of Mujahideen"...

The website even has streaming audio at this url: http://www.hanein.info:800/ just clicking the link will not play the audio but if you copy and past the url into windows media player or another media player it will play the radio station that is hosted on the site." (unquote)

1 posted on 10/20/2011 5:10:22 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: All

Anybody have the obligatory “I’m SHOCKED!” graphic?


2 posted on 10/20/2011 5:16:02 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Bump.


3 posted on 10/20/2011 5:17:32 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Raising Cain)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Nachum; STARWISE; kristinn; onyx; maggief; Liz; thouworm

Great Find Ping!!

North Korea came out in support today too. This can’t be good for Obama and the democrats. They are now on the side of Ahmanutjob,Chavez,North Korea,International Nazi’s and International Communists....lol!!


4 posted on 10/20/2011 5:17:39 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Is anyone going to be surprised at this?
What ever happened to sedition laws?


5 posted on 10/20/2011 5:18:40 AM PDT by mark3681
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To: penelopesire
Wait till RUSH LIMBAUGH or GLENN BECK or LAURA INGRAHAM or MARK LEVIN or MICHAEL SAVAGE gets ahold of this stuff today!! ;-)
6 posted on 10/20/2011 5:19:04 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Hope you are sending the stuff to them. Don’t forget Drudge’s tipline! He actually reads it and could put all of these ‘endorsements’ together in one headline...LOL!


7 posted on 10/20/2011 5:21:29 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

bttt


8 posted on 10/20/2011 5:23:05 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
by David Horowitz

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Amazon Book Review:
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By Kat Bakhu

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It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air."
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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left -by David Horowitz
Not all dissent is equal, and Americans whose actions are calculated to give aide and comfort to the butchers who murdered 3,000 innocent people on September 11, 2001 are not patriotic at all... they are, in fact, quite the opposite.

$18.00 from David Horowitz's website, FrontPageMag.com:
(click on 'Bookstore' near the top of the page)
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9 posted on 10/20/2011 5:26:26 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Obama Funder 'Jodie Evans' In White House Visitor Log days after Code Pink Hamas Trip
by Kristinn Taylor and Andrea Shea King

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http://biggovernment.com/taylorking/2010/01/08/obama-funder-jodie-evans-name-in-white-house-visitor-log-days-after-code-pink-hamas-trip/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BigGovernment+%28Big+Government%29&utm_content=Twitter
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Cindy Sheehan, Jodie Evans, Hugo Chavez,
Medea Benjamin [co-founder Code Pink]

Code Pink 'Bundles' for Barack, 4/14/2008

"The co-founder of the radical anti-war group Code Pink [Jodie Evans] has “bundled” more than $50,000 for Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, and pro-troops groups are demanding that he return the money."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=25997
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764

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REVOLUTION: Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]

Revolution interview with ["Peace Mom"] Cindy Sheehan: October 29, 2005:
['Revolution' is the official newspaper of the Revolutionary Communist Party]
http://rwor.org/a/021/cindy-sheehan-interview.htm
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November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience:

"I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline
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Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas:
"We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right." --Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971
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From 1972: "I am not a do-gooder, I am a revolutionary. A revolutionary woman."

http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm

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Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans embraces commie
traitor Jane Fonda

10 posted on 10/20/2011 5:28:24 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Great posts and timing as usual!


11 posted on 10/20/2011 5:32:55 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'--Ahmedinejad
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http://article.wn.com/view/2009/06/16/Iran_president_visits_Russia_despite_protests/
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
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From CBS-News, July 29, 2006:

Chavez Vows To 'Stand By Iran'
After Oil Talks In Tehran, Venezuelan Leader Called 'Brother' By Ahmedinejad

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"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/29/world/main1847331.shtml
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President Obama and Venezuela dictator Hugo
Chavez at the 2009 Summit of the Americas in Trinidad.
Note the "soul bro" handshake. (my caption)

Obama, Chavez shake hands at Americas Summit:
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2009/04/17/2698451-obama-chavez-shake-hands-at-americas-summit

12 posted on 10/20/2011 5:33:10 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: penelopesire

can some good FReeper out there help us w/ that great idea and task? i am mobile at the moment...


13 posted on 10/20/2011 5:34:15 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Will be glad to help.


14 posted on 10/20/2011 5:37:33 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: penelopesire

10-4!


15 posted on 10/20/2011 5:38:33 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: penelopesire

Thank you. Just didn’t want folks to jump to any false conclusions that the “Occupy Wall Street” movement is about anything but advancing the COMMUNIST cause. They only side with each because both hate the US (its freedoms and liberties) and want to destroy it.


16 posted on 10/20/2011 5:39:28 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It’s not surprising that people who hate this country would stand together...


17 posted on 10/20/2011 5:43:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (OWS - a scam to shift blame for unemployment and misery away from Obama..)
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To: penelopesire
North Korea came out in support today too. This can’t be good for Obama and the democrats. They are now on the side of Ahmanutjob,Chavez,North Korea,International Nazi’s and International Communists....lol!!

Too bad none of the suck up MSM moderators at our 'debates' will lob this one to our guys... It would be a unifying moment. One more reason debates should be monitored by conservatives UNTIL our champion is chosen.

"Can you name 5 international groups supporting OWS..."

18 posted on 10/20/2011 5:51:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (OWS - a scam to shift blame for unemployment and misery away from Obama..)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; penelopesire

“Apologies for the link to this group’s site (and the specific web section in which they promote “Occupy Wall Street”), but it proves the wider point for evidence’ sake. FR of course does not condone nor support such activity (disclaimer).”

For research purposes ONLY.

http://www.hanein.info/vb/showthread.php?t=260225#post1828150

Solicits donations via:

http://www.nycga.net/about//


19 posted on 10/20/2011 6:03:56 AM PDT by maggief
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To: GOPJ

Agree with your great idea totally!


20 posted on 10/20/2011 6:08:23 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Good find, AIT!


21 posted on 10/20/2011 6:08:47 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Americas enemies have no problem joining the far left. They all have the same goal - Destroy the U.S. from within.
Unfortunately, Americas enemies have no problem deceiving the public school kids these days. The brain washing starts with the teachers union as soon as a kinder gardener steps through the door.
The kids are dumbed down to the point where they can no longer think and behave on their own. Everything is PC controlled. They're more like robots rather than humans. Free thought is strictly forbidden. At the same time, they're taught their oppression is freedom, and their ignorance is genius.

According to the Satanic "bible", Satan (the antichrist) will rise through the children (with a tip of the hat given to him by Saul Alinski).

While the rest of the country is preparing for the lefts economic crash, these kids are hanging out in the street thinking they're going to be given a huge chunk of everyone elses wealth. They have no idea they're wasting the time they have left to prepare. They're going to find themselves standing naked if they don't snap out of it. If they think they want stuff now - just wait until the grocery store shelves are bare. No one is going to give a hoot what they think. In fact, they'll be part of the group that helped cause it all.

22 posted on 10/20/2011 6:17:25 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: penelopesire

Amazing.

I know someone in that movement. His head would explode if I started posting links to his facebook page about this stuff.


23 posted on 10/20/2011 6:24:18 AM PDT by sauropod (William Kristol does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: sauropod

My stupid lib sister is protesting with them in her state too. (shaking head and rolling eyes)


24 posted on 10/20/2011 6:36:58 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: penelopesire

I’ve been saying for a while that I think both Obama and his owner, George Soros, are the convergence of America’s two biggest enemies: communists and Islamists.

The communists and Islamists alike were saying in September of 2008 that “Since capitalism has failed, the world should try...” either communism or Islamic finance. Now they’re saying the same thing, only the heads are trying to make it look like a popular uprising. Unfortunately, they’ve got plenty of useful idiots to use for that purpose. But I doubt they would have the crowds they have if they didn’t have the unions pushing it and offer free gourmet food and condoms. I think the George Soros communist network and his Islamist allies were behind the Sept 2008 run on the bank, to try to topple capitalism, and I think they are the ones pushing OWS, which both communist and Islamist sources now have called “the revolution”.


25 posted on 10/20/2011 6:40:26 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Some Islamist (Wahhabist/Sunni) fundamentalist anti-American terrorists have been uncovered and are apparantly in support of the "Occupy Wall Street Movement"

So that is why Ron Paul was so fast to jump on endorsing OWS>
26 posted on 10/20/2011 6:44:00 AM PDT by rideharddiefast
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To: penelopesire
My stupid lib sister is protesting with them in her state too. (shaking head and rolling eyes)

They don't have anything else to do. As long as someone feeds them, they'll hang around and party. Unless they build them a shelter for the winter, these kids will start to get too cold, will find their way home to mom, and refer to it as the best street party ever!
The hateful radical leftists will try to hold out as long as they can, but there aren't very many of those. They want everyone elses stuff, and they won't want to quit until they have it. They'll scream "Gimme, gimme" until someone else (like always) rushes them to the hospital with frostbite!

27 posted on 10/20/2011 6:44:40 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

The people who put this on - Soros & Co - must be expecting the spark that ignites the US into martial law to happen before winter sets in. Awful lot of terrorist dry runs these days. Something is up.


28 posted on 10/20/2011 6:49:11 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
“Since capitalism has failed, the world should try...” either communism or Islamic finance.

The radical lefts Modus Operandi:

Manufacture a crises.
Wait for the people to cry out for relief.
Blame the opponent.
Come in as the savor to fix things with a "new way" (socialism/communism), because the "old way failed"!

They did this with the schools, health care, housing, banking, auto (but not all the industries took the bait), and now they're manufacturing a pharmaceutical crises. They'll be offering a "new way" after they make it unaffordable (via law suits), because the "old way didn't work."

29 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics
You are correct about "Dumbing Down" beginning in Kindergarten.

I teach Pre-K. While preparing for a Christmas pageant, I had to teach the children "Joy To The World". I told the children that this was a 200 year old song written by George Frederick Handel. Then I winked and said, "Do you think you can Handle it?"

The children immediately recognized the pun and burst into gales of laughter.

Then they attempted to share the joke with some of the other teachers who just stared at them, uncomprehendingly, as the 4-year olds painstakingly tried to explain the pun.

Maybe I can make a difference?
30 posted on 10/20/2011 6:59:54 AM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

They actually want to occupy the entire country. It’s amazing so many people could be so stupid.


31 posted on 10/20/2011 7:09:11 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: butterdezillion

Dittos on all points! I read ‘Unholy Alliance’ years ago and highly recommend it for every FReeper! It’s even worse now, as Obama has placed more muslim brotherhood members in our own government than at anytime in American history. The enemies are inside the gates...BIG TIME!


32 posted on 10/20/2011 7:10:38 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: butterdezillion
Something is up.

They've been working on this for generations.

Who destroyed our education system, so it had to be "fixed." The teachers union. (L)
Who destroyed health care, so it had to be "fixed"? The trial lawyers. (L)
Who destroyed housing, so it had to be "fixed"? Fannie and Freddie. (L)
Who destroyed auto, so it had to be "fixed"? The unions. (L)
Who destroyed the banks, so they had to be "fixed"? Frank and Dodd. (L)
Who's now working on pharmaceuticals, so it'll have to be "fixed"? Trial layers.(L)
Who broke down our moral fabric leading to 48% feeding off the system, so the social safety net had to be "fixed" to accommodate it? The far left's PC minions.

See post #29. Every crises is manufactured by the left, and their funding is unlimited. It makes me wonder why they keep blaming Bush for 9/11. That would be liberal MO #3, wouldn't it? Blame the opponant???

33 posted on 10/20/2011 7:11:22 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“OCCUPY....” is an ObHAMAS’ tool !

No surprise if jihadists support it


34 posted on 10/20/2011 7:17:26 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: penelopesire

The enemies are inside ....and at the top !

Since Obhamas is one of them


35 posted on 10/20/2011 7:20:06 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: concerned about politics

Exactly. And they always have to make it seem like it stems from popular sentiment. Poll manipulation is a big tool for that because it’s so easy to either fudge the numbers (ala Climategate) or manipulate the questions so the polls reflect whatever you want them to reflect.

They used poll manipulation in the run-up to the Kenyan election also, to set the stage for a claim that Kibaki “stole the election” - which was the excuse for the Muslim violence that ultimately put Odinga into power, as was included in the Odinga election plan and funded in part by Obama’s illegal (in violation of Hatch Act) donations to Odinga’s campaign.

And now that Odinga has his foot in the door, the rioting Muslims have been paid back by American taxpayer money which was used to get a new Kenyan Constitution that institutes sharia among Muslims- which is the foothold; now they have only to populate the whole country and/or fudge the demographics numbers so that the whole country will be considered majority-Muslim and sharia will be the law of the land - all funded by US taxpayer dollars.

So we know what the Kenyan communists and Islamists got in this deal. What did Obama get out of this risky taxpayer money-laundering scheme to benefit both radical Islam and communism?

You tell me... What might Obama have wanted from the Kenyan Muslims and communists? Why might he have wanted his cousin, Odinga, in a position to control the Kenyan government?

Hint: Obama has released what the HDOH has indirectly confirmed in 3 different ways is 2 forged Hawaii birth certificates. Obama’s friend, Neil Abercrombie, stated in an interview published by a Star-Advertiser columnist that what they have in Hawaii won’t convince anybody that Obama was born there, and told his friend, Mike Evans, that there is no birth certificate in Hawaii for Obama. IOW, Obama has been using a birth certificate from someplace else his entire life. And according to Jerome Corsi, Raila Odinga sealed all of Obama’s records in Kenya. Why would Obama have records in Kenya but not in Hawaii?


36 posted on 10/20/2011 7:22:22 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: left that other site
Oh, and college loans. See post #29 again. There was a "crises". Who created it? Liberal colleges charging a fortune for their (lack of) services (even though they have billions of dollars stashed away for...whatever). Oboma had to come in and "fix" the school loan program with a "new way", because the "old way failed."
Expect college loan bail outs (which means free college for all to make it fair). The government now controls the school loan program!
Socialism/communism will end the manufactured crises once again. The people are crying out for relief - and it's the bankers fault!
37 posted on 10/20/2011 7:24:31 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Yep. It’s all there.

You left out the electoral demise caused by Motor Voter and ACORN.

The only two pieces of actual lawyering that Obama did for all his expensive (who paid for it?) law degree from Harvard were to argue the Motor Voter Act and to harass banks into giving out subprime loans to satisfy the Community Reinvestment Act - both of which (subvert elections and subvert the banking system) were major planks set forth in the Cloward-Piven Plan, which was co-written by one of Obama’s co-members in The New Party (which was also a plank in the Cloward-Piven Plan): Frances Fox Piven.

IOW, not only do we see the footprints of the communists in action here, but we also have the specific fingerprints of Barack Hussein Obama, who was the Chicago lawyer who laid the legal groundwork for the breaking of both our banking system and our electoral system. Whoever paid his way through Harvard had his duties clearly lined out for him.

And Percy Sutton has said it was a Saudi prince who paid Obama’s way through Harvard. In the meantime all the economic institutions have kept Obama’s records private.

Al Qaeda had the plans for 9-11 for 20 years before ever implementing it. Our Islamic enemies are patient and prepare FAR in advance. In the early 1980’s, when Reagan was president and fighting the communist agenda, the Islamists were allegedly funding Barack Hussein Obama to become a lawyer and further the Cloward-Piven agenda to bring America to her knees financially and electorally. Ten years later they drew up plans to hit America financially through what was eventually 9-11.

While Americans have been sleeping and presuming that freedom and prosperity are automatic, the communist and Islamist boa has been methodically winding itself around our neck. Unless we can inform the public of that fact, in spite of all the legal, media, law enforcement, etc infrastructure being taken over by the enemy, America is dead meat. Right now both the communists and Islamists are vultures flying overhead, licking their chops.


38 posted on 10/20/2011 7:39:48 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: concerned about politics

That is a GREAT summation! Thank You for articulating it so well!


39 posted on 10/20/2011 7:50:28 AM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: concerned about politics

College loans are a plot to enslave the middle Class.

No jobs without that degree, so mortgage the home and everything else to pay the hyper-inflated tuition, and turn your children over to the propaganda factories.

Or else, get a huge college loan that will never get repaid and put your bitter, indoctrinated kid in debt forever.

Yep...seems like a PLAN.


40 posted on 10/20/2011 7:56:04 AM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: concerned about politics

Just heard a blurb on the news yesterday, saying that college loans had replaced house loans as the number one reason for indebtedness. Just in time for the OWS stuff. Like clockwork.

They busted the housing market through CRA (”compassionately” giving loans to people they knew could never, ever pay them back, leading to the collapse of the housing market) and now they’re moving on to education, like you said (Obama’s “fix” “compassionately” giving HUGE college loans to people they knew will never be able to pay them back - people like the OWS gal who said she is 21 years old and has $120,000 of college loans to pay back, coming out to $1600/month by next June). First they “compassionately” give out money that people can’t afford, leading them to believe everything will be fine. They create an expectation that can never be fulfilled. And then when TSHTF the government has to bail these people out.

They do the same thing with the states. Obama’s “jobs bill” is this precise thing. Give money to the states so they will introduce new jobs that the states can’t afford. That creates an expectation. Let the states test drive how nice it would be to have a Mercedes even though the states could never afford to have their own Mercedes. Then take away the money and leave them with the expectation but no way to fulfill that expectation. That lays the groundwork for the feds to have to swoop in to save the damsel in distress.

I see the same thing in my work. I work with an after-school program. I was hired when they advertised for new positions; they needed to fulfill a supervisor/student proportion for the feds because they got a federal grant. Well... just last week my boss was told that the program has to go through summer as well, so the money she thought she had for the school year is actually supposed to last us all through summer as well. They’ve created an expectation. These parents have learned to expect that this program will be there; they can drop their kids off at school in the morning, all year long, and pick them up after work. Their kids will be fed and supervised. If state or federal budget cuts meant this program had to end, there would be an outcry among these parents. That’s exactly what they want. They want people to test drive how wonderful the government sector can be (while they rack up unsustainable debt, charging it all to the credit card) so the people will never want to go back to driving the car they can actually afford. It’s all to create an expectation of living like kings, getting something for nothing. But eventually the credit card bill has to be paid, and this illusion will all come crashing to a halt.

It is methodical, systematic, blatant, and predictable. It is coordinated between the communist/Islamists, the news media, the educational system (elites & unions), the filthy-rich communist bankers (and no, that’s not an oxymoron, it’s just two-faced liars like Soros), and the democrat leadership.

If we let them get away with this, we deserve what we get, and it will be very, very bad.


41 posted on 10/20/2011 8:00:14 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Unless we can inform the public of that fact, in spite of all the legal, media, law enforcement, etc infrastructure being taken over by the enemy, America is dead meat.

They've covered their arses for that, too. Political correctness was created to silence people from speaking out against the left wing special interest groups and their agenda (not one right wing group is protected by PC. In fact, right wing groups are acceptable targets for hate.)
Speak out against the Islamists (L)- you're engaging in hate speech. You're an Islamophobe. Speak out against the tearing of our moral fabric, you hate women (L), you're a homophobes (L), you hate the poor (L), you hate Mexicans (L)....you hate, you hate, you hate.....This is why they're trying to made hate speech a crime like hate crimes (where the left wing voting blocks have special legal protections, no matter how radical or dangerous they get).

Right now, speaking your mind, no matter what the repercussions, is still legal. If we don't use our right to speak out freely, we're going to lose that, too.

42 posted on 10/20/2011 8:10:46 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: butterdezillion
Several years ago the Bush adm. translated, declassified, and made public what they thought were completely irrelevant al Quaeda docs. recovered in Afghanistan.

Somebody screwed up.

What one person sees as completely irrelevant, another will see as being the Rosetta Stone. They accidentally made the Rosetta Stone of the terrorist attacks public.

The doc was a letter from UBl to Mullah Omar. It was listed as doc # AFGP-2002-600321 in the CTC at West Point Harmony Database.

In the doc UBL makes a passing statement “the news is 90% of the preparation for the battle”.

If you have a small scale terrorist attack you can carry it out based on what's in the news. For a large scale attack, like 9/11, you can't.

For a large scale attack you have to orchestrate the news for the attack because of the timing, and you also have to spin the news following the attack to achieve the objective of the attack.

The terrorist overseas don't have the ability to orchestrate the news before the attack much less follow up with the correct spin after the attack. The only people that can do that is the left.

Prior to each and every terrorist attack, attempted attack, or threat of attack since 1993, the left has always ginned up civil unrest, attempted to gin up civil unrest, or had a plan to gin up civil unrest. It never fails.

The terrorist are following the Weather Underground playbook.

I have zero doubts, this civil unrest being ginned up by the left is the preparation for a major terrorist attack.

43 posted on 10/20/2011 8:11:59 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350
The terrorist overseas don't have the ability to orchestrate the news before the attack much less follow up with the correct spin after the attack. The only people that can do that is the left.

Like the socialists and communists, the left is also getting blatant about their friendship with Islam. Nothing is hidden, and everything is being revealed. The sheep are being separated from the goats.

The radical Marxists want everything around the world burnt to the ground. They want nothing left. They believe by doing that, everyone has a chance to start over, and the poor will finally have an equal chance to reach the top.

Unfortunately for them, they fail to take into consideration human nature. Some want to be cared for by others (L), some prefer to do things themselves (R). The producers will once again want to produce (R), and the sloth will want to continue living in sloth (L). In the end, everything will come back to what it is today. Their social experiment will have been a failure, and a lot of people will have suffered because of it.

There's a place in hell waiting for these people.

44 posted on 10/20/2011 8:27:39 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

No surprise there. The Communist and Nazi parties in the USA also support this movement.


45 posted on 10/20/2011 8:27:55 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
I say the following:

The information I have posted be forwarded to the Attorneys General of Republican held state governments wherein such demonstrations occur.

Investigations occur as to the extent of radical islam participation in such activities, such as "Occupy this" and "Occupy that".

If it can be established in these various states that a terrorist/Islamist security issue exists within the "Occupy" groups, that state enforcement and states rights to protect domestic tranquility be enforced and the groups be forceably disbanded. Let the Federal government sue the states, let the local law enforcement make their move. For example, if there is an "Occupy Phoenix" and it can be proven that Islamic terrorist organizations or Mexican cartels are involved in such a social destabilization, Sheriff Joe Arpaio should be able to go in and forceably disperse it, arrest those who do not disband, and the Governor of the state uphold it with the State's National Guard. We are looking at potentially serious internal national security situations developing here egged on by radical Marxists and Islamist sympathizers in the White House, planned around our seats of government, business, judiciary and other areas of public administration, and could even begin to target certain residential areas of the United States based on a very REAL doctrine of Class Warfare being irresponsibly stoked.

46 posted on 10/20/2011 8:54:30 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: concerned about politics
If the left actually gets what it wants, then the non producers will end up turning against them because the non producers will be forced into being producers when their redistributed wealth runs out.

The producers would stop producing “EXTRA” if it's all going to be taken away and given to the non producers.

One of the first things you would see is a return to substance farming, people producing just enough food for themselves. State owned Corporate Farms couldn't produce enough food you would end up with empty shelves like in the Soviet Union. Food would be sold on the black market.

47 posted on 10/20/2011 9:12:46 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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48 posted on 10/20/2011 9:29:49 AM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: butterdezillion
It is methodical, systematic, blatant, and predictable.

They create the crisis over time, so no one notices.
For example - the Housing Act goes back to Carter, and was tweaked by Clinton. It grew to massive proportions - then the oil speculators (Soros), who knew these people could barley afford their mortgage, drove the price of gas up to $4.00 a gallon. The poor couldn't afford both the house and the gas. Everything crashed. That created a domino, and you know the rest of the story. It was planned so well, it happened just in time for the Oboma election! The dems took over everything. That even gave them a short cut to the health care take over, too! It was a big win/win for the communist radicals that year.

49 posted on 10/20/2011 10:38:08 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: penelopesire; AmericanInTokyo; ETL
Great Find Ping!!

North Korea came out in support today too. This can’t be good for Obama and the democrats. They are now on the side of Ahmanutjob,Chavez,North Korea,International Nazi’s and International Communists....lol!!

Thanks for most important ping to critical thread.

AmericanInTokyo: A consideration to post thread again to get additional attention? Pen, AIT, and ETL: Don't forget the Anarcho-syndicalists in this. They are on board also. ETL has a brilliant post on them---connecting Obama & family on display with colors and raised fist from the very beginning. Isn't it interesting how---when all Obama's "mainstream" food chain begins to distance themselves from him---he summons up into a froth those embarrassing kinfolk he never wanted to acknowledge were with him from the beginning.

50 posted on 10/20/2011 8:04:47 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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