Posted on 10/20/2011 7:24:57 AM PDT by Colofornian
At an appearance at George Washington University...Bill Maher bounded into territory that the news media have been gingerly tiptoeing around.
Magic underwear. Baptizing dead people. Celestial marriages. Private planets. Racism. Polygamy.
“By any standard, Mormonism is more ridiculous than any other religion”...“It’s...founded on the idea of polygamy. They call it The Principle. That sounds like The Prime Directive in ‘Star Trek.’ ”
He said he expects the Romney crowd...to once more “gloss over the differences between Christians and Mormons.”
SNIP
Another famous nonbeliever, Christopher Hitchens, wrote in Slate...about “the weird and sinister belief system of the LDS”...
Aside from Joseph Smith, whom Hitchens calls “a fraud and conjurer well known to the authorities in upstate New York,” the writer also wonders about the Mormon practice of amassing archives of the dead...to “retrospectively ‘baptize’ everybody as a convert.”
Hitchens noted that they “got hold of a list of those put to death by the Nazis’ Final Solution” and “began making these massacred Jews into honorary LDS members as well.” He called it “a crass attempt at mass identity theft from the deceased.”
The Mormons even baptized Anne Frank.
It took Ernest Michel, then chairman of the American Gathering of Jewish Holocaust Survivors, three years to get Mormons to agree to stop proxy-baptizing Holocaust victims.
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Kent Jackson, the associate dean of religion at Brigham Young University, says that while Mormons are Christians, “Mormonism is not part of the Christian family tree.”
It probably won’t comfort skeptical evangelicals and Catholics to know that Mormons think that while other Christians merely “have a portion of the truth, what God revealed to Joseph Smith is the fullness of the truth,” as Jackson says...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Do we really need to vote for a guy who wants to be a god of his own planet?
...Sounds like the second coming of Islam. Islam claims that all the prophets of the old testament were really Muslim. They then claim they have the real truth, and then replace the gospel with a earn your way to heaven mentality.
You are right on. If a candidate is a conservative, they will be ridiculed as an idiot by the press. IMHO, this is because they are usually MORE intelligent and informed, and it’s part of the leftist playbook to attack and thus negate conservative areas of strength.
For instance, do we ever hear Bachmann is a tax attorney? Palin is an energy expert who DID have a hostile power on her doorstep as governer of Alaska? That Cain IS a “rocket scientist”?
Mormonism has huge problems, stemming from their belief God is flesh and blood. Huge problems come from small heresies. But the Mormons I know try to live exemplary lives, and value their family above all. That is not part of what disqualifies Romney. But expect huge shows on all the weird aspects of mormonism with charts and “experts” all over the alphabet networks if Romney wins the primary.
Mormons have their own version of "Taqqiya."
If any can be saved. I fear even if the truth is blasted across the nation 24/7 some if not most would go down with the sinking ship than to acknowledge the truth that Mormonism is false. But still, there's part of me that wants to try, even if its only to warn off future converts.....
CZJ — Not Guilty
“The NY Times will run its Mormon exposes’ non-stop!”
Magic underwear, their belief in revelation through a “golden salamander,” and other extreme oddities will make for non-stop ridicule. To this, the Democrats will add the fact that Romney became a billionaire on Wall St., the real cardinal sin for many voters.
The GOP has a death wish if it nominates Romney.
Romney can worship a Golden Calf for all I care, I don’t want him as President.
This is why the true battle is between Cain and Perry. On Super Tuesday, Romney will not win a single Southern state.
Quoting Oprah are we?
Quoting Oprah are we?
Yes it is often termed “lying for the lord” officially denounced but accepted that early leaders did it including j.smith. Another is “Faith promoting” papers etc.
see 1994 speech by D.Oaks
A modern example would be
BYU Anthropology Professor John Clark
“Practices, instruments of war and history in the Book of Mormon are in accordance with Mesoamerican ways,”
Even the most mild investigation of this will show that this statement can not be upheld.
I agree that we are all entitled to our own opinions and view but not our own facts.
“It is a sin to weaken
another man’s faith”
Even if that faith is in error ? Not a very Biblical stand.
M.M.M.
More Mormon Mush.
Were mormons as equally disgusted with fellow mormons lying about Christian Seder events?
Save the faux moral outrage for another day.
I'm not sure what your point is. Is evangelism now verboten?
I assume it's wrong for a person of a given faith to weaken another of the same faith. But really, are you claiming it's wrong for a Christian to weaken the faith of a Muslim or vice versa? Or for a Presbyterian to try to bring a Methodist to the Calvinist persuasion?
Or this a more Oriental position, possibly Buddhist?
“It is a sin to weaken
another man’s faith.”
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Think about that.
If a person has been deceived by a destructive falsehood, isn’t it an act of love to try to undermine that destructive faith by offering the truth?
The Old Testament Biblical prophets, the New Testament writers and Christ Himself continually sought to undermine faith in falsehoods and strengthen faith in Truth.
The Truth:
The Biblical Scriptures teach that one must trust in Jesus Christ alone for eternal salvation. He is eternal God who became incarnate (without ceasing to be God, He took on Himself true humanity) in order to die on the cross in payment for our sins. (He’s not just a man who attained godhood like we all can supposedly attain godhood. If that’s the “Jesus” one believes in, then one is believing in a false Jesus, not the true Jesus of the Bible.)
As He hung on the cross, our sins were judicially imputed or ascribed to Him. Our sins were poured out on Him and judged by God the Father. Jesus Christ paid the penalty for our sins.
One must accept Jesus Christ’s finished work on the cross (His substitutionary atonement in payment for our sins) as the only way of salvation.
It’s worthless to rely instead on our own works (or a mix of faith and works) to save us.
John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
2 Corinthians 5:21
For He (God the Father) has made Him (Jesus Christ) to be sin for us (He was judged for our sins, He died as a substitute for us), who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.
John 3:16-18
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He who believes on him is not condemned: but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 6:47
(Jesus Christ said) He who believes in me has everlasting life.
John 10:9
I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.
John 10:28-30
I give them eternal life and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.
John 14:6
I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Acts 4:12
And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.
Acts 16:31
Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved...
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you are saved through faith and this is not from you, it is the gift of God. It is not from works, so no one may boast.
1 John 5:11-12
God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
Acts 10:43
Every one who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.
Romans 4:7-8
Blessed are they whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him.
John 11:25-26
(Jesus Christ said) I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?
More good Biblical info available here:
http://www.deanbible.org
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