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Here's Why Russia Wants To Train A Thousand Snipers (Urban Warfare?)
TBI ^ | 10-20-2011 | Adam Taylor

Posted on 10/20/2011 10:35:33 AM PDT by blam

Here's Why Russia Wants To Train A Thousand Snipers

Adam Taylor
Oct. 20, 2011, 12:40 PM

Reports in Russian media suggest that the Russian army is hoping to train 1,000 snipers in the next few months.

The move is a major reorganization of the Russia's army. Earlier this month Defense Ministry spokesman Lt. Col. Sergey Vlasov told reporters “We are establishing a phased, multi-tiered system for selecting and training candidates, to teach them how to work as part of a unit and independently. All snipers will have special training once every three or four years.”

The announcement has been met with confusion. With reports that the snipers would be pulled from normal troops and the first group would only have initial training of 3-4 months, experts argue would likely be useless in a major war situation.

So why the rush? Liz Fuller at RFE/RL hypothesizes that the snipers are being trained for some kind of close-quarters, urban-warfare type situations — which could definitely mass demonstrations or an Arab Spring-type action.

Which leads us to wonder what exactly Russia are expecting...

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; russia; snipers; urbanwarfare

1 posted on 10/20/2011 10:35:42 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

This is why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Grigoryevich_Zaitsev


2 posted on 10/20/2011 10:37:49 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet
Lol. No. The reason why they know is because of White Death.
3 posted on 10/20/2011 10:41:33 AM PDT by FritzG
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To: blam

As the former Soviet officers age and retire, you’ve begun seeing some real changes in Russian War-fighting ideas.

A few years ago, they began training NCO’s on initiative, and operating independent of command. I’d put this down as another step.

Snipers are an important part of US capability.


4 posted on 10/20/2011 10:42:36 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: FritzG

WOW Thank You, I didn’t know about that guy, JUST WOW!


5 posted on 10/20/2011 10:50:13 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Yeah, he is a legend.


6 posted on 10/20/2011 10:58:25 AM PDT by FritzG
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To: blam

Perhaps the recent urban fighting in Libya had some effect on them. Many snipers involved. Instrumental in delaying the anti-Gaddafi forces from capturing key parts of various urban environs due to infestations of snipers.


7 posted on 10/20/2011 10:59:50 AM PDT by donozark (Sam Walton:"It was paper when we started, and it's paper afterwards.")
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To: blam
1. You can't train a component sniper in 3 months

2. 1000 of them is no where near enough if this true

3. There are more “snipers” in any back water Alabama town during hunting season - and they train themselves!

8 posted on 10/20/2011 11:08:23 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: blam

Can we rent them for a little temporary duty around Wall Street?


9 posted on 10/20/2011 11:10:59 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: FritzG
He's got nothing on Frederick Zoller

"Who wants to send a message to Germany?"

10 posted on 10/20/2011 11:13:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: blam

You do not need 3 or four months to train a sniper, dang, some of the best in the world had none are a couple of weeks current army is 5 weeks.


11 posted on 10/20/2011 11:16:07 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: 2banana
"3. There are more “snipers” in any back water Alabama town during hunting season - and they train themselves! "

YUP.

I'm in a 'back-water' Alabama town...my neighborhood built our own firing range to practice for the coming civil-war here in the US.

12 posted on 10/20/2011 11:16:28 AM PDT by blam
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To: 2banana

Point 3: indeed!

The USA has some 18,000,000 of them about to begin annual training (operation “Deer Season”).


13 posted on 10/20/2011 11:18:50 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: dfwgator
I'll send a message to Germany!


14 posted on 10/20/2011 11:21:59 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: donozark

Also, Sniper Alley in Sarajevo.....


15 posted on 10/20/2011 11:24:27 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: blam

Apparently they are going to undergo 3 months training to get to the point that they are accurate at 400-500 yards. Not a great jump in capabilities.


16 posted on 10/20/2011 11:25:08 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: org.whodat
Storm Mountain can get you from zero to sniper in 3 weeks.
17 posted on 10/20/2011 11:26:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: blam

“So why the rush..... urban warfare”
Putin was indicating a revival of the Kremlin.


18 posted on 10/20/2011 11:43:25 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: blam

Probably not scout-snipers but rather designated marksmen such as used by U.S. forces.


19 posted on 10/20/2011 12:29:49 PM PDT by fso301
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To: buffaloguy; All
Apparently they are going to undergo 3 months training to get to the point that they are accurate at 400-500 yards. Not a great jump in capabilities.

Yep. Designated marksmen is what they will be.

20 posted on 10/20/2011 12:31:45 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Cold Heart
Russian Steelmaker Warns That Putin's Return Could Spell Unrest

Adam Taylor
Oct. 20, 2011, 3:07 PM

In a prospectus for new shares, Russian firm Evraz has warned of the potential for unrest in Russia after Putin's return to presidential office.

“In particular, the recently announced intentions of Mr. Putin to return to the Presidency and Mr. Medvedev to support Mr. Putin’s re-election as President in 2012 could cause political protests and unrest,” says Evraz (via the WSJ).

While it hasn't caused much protest in Russia the time of writing, internationally eyebrows were raised when Putin announced his intention to run for President next year.

Perhaps Russia will be needing those snipers after all...

21 posted on 10/20/2011 1:49:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: buffaloguy

Project Appleseed can get you to 500yds with iron sights and no rest in two days for $70. See my tagline.


22 posted on 10/20/2011 3:30:51 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: ebshumidors

Thanks for the headup on The Appleseed Project. I’m definitely goingt to check it out.

I wonder if they would take someone with a .45-70?


23 posted on 10/20/2011 6:27:35 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: blam

I don’t know why it ever make news.
Snipers are traditional part of their urban warfare strategy since WWII.
There are lot of civilian gun freaks in rural Russia as well.
Redneck kids are usually snipers as soon as they are drafted to military there.


24 posted on 10/20/2011 10:14:46 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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