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California gives final approval to cap and trade
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | October 20, 2011 | Wyatt Buchanan

Posted on 10/20/2011 7:04:27 PM PDT by artichokegrower

California's plan to cap greenhouse gas emissions and put a price on carbon is set to take effect without delay on Jan. 1 after the Air Resources Board today voted to make final adjustments in the regulation.

The board first approved the cap and trade program last December, but in an unusual move the board took up the final pieces of the nation's only comprehensive limit on greenhouse gases. It is the last major regulation the board considered to meet the requirements of AB32, California's greenhouse gas reduction law.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: capandtax; capandtrade; globalwarming
This is the final nail in the coffin of the California economy. Freaking morons sitting at home thinking that this won't affect them don't realize that the first industry to be hit with the carbon tax will be the electrical utilities. Cry me a river when your electric bill doubles next year. And when the heck do I get to vote on who makes up the membership of this board which is going to have a hugely negative direct affect on my life? Oh well at least the Earth's temperature will go down 0.000000001 degrees next year.
1 posted on 10/20/2011 7:04:28 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Like Greece, the demise of California is inevitable.... =.=


2 posted on 10/20/2011 7:06:06 PM PDT by cranked
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.
California’s government is doubling down on stupid.


3 posted on 10/20/2011 7:07:42 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: artichokegrower

“Stupid is as stupid does.”


4 posted on 10/20/2011 7:12:35 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: artichokegrower

This will turn California into a green paradise... /s.

In the short term, a lot will depend on how high they set the carbon costs. They could soon chase out whatever industry and power is left, and if they work at it, also make fuel cost 50% more in California than in adjoining states.


5 posted on 10/20/2011 7:15:26 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Name Another Site Where You Can Get As Much Information

Can't Think Of One?

Then Why Don't You Donate

6 posted on 10/20/2011 7:16:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: artichokegrower

CA won’t be bailed out by the rest of the country next fall after the upcoming massacre at the polls.

In geological terms wonder how long it will take for CA to merge with Europe/Greece once again.


7 posted on 10/20/2011 7:17:14 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: artichokegrower

Just hoping the man-made climate change accelerates the san andreas fault line through massive earthquakes and 90% of the nations problem slides off into the ocean.

Was hoping the August Quake would do the same to DC.


8 posted on 10/20/2011 7:17:39 PM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: artichokegrower

CARB is a parasite that is about to kill the host.


9 posted on 10/20/2011 7:17:39 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: artichokegrower; boop
Damn the reality, full speed ahead!


10 posted on 10/20/2011 7:19:41 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Army Air Corps; golux; SteamShovel; Bockscar; Thunder90; rdl6989; marvlus; Fractal Trader; ...
Thanx for the ping Army Air Corps !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

11 posted on 10/20/2011 7:21:29 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: artichokegrower

Well, California was never a state to let common sense stop them from doing stupid things. Ah, the hippies, queers and perverts, druggies, eco-freaks and illegals running the state. Should be hitting third world status within a decade.


12 posted on 10/20/2011 7:27:11 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: JoeGar

In other neuws:
As a part of crap and trade all the farts will be taxed.
Special fart tsar will establish fart department and agents will be following people and if they fart, they will measure the fart gas. Vegetarian farts will be taxed at half tax.
Deeeevelo-ping!


13 posted on 10/20/2011 7:29:33 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: quantim
"CA won’t be bailed out by the rest of the country..."

I wouldn't bet my beer money on that.

At least not on a hot day.

14 posted on 10/20/2011 7:29:40 PM PDT by daler
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To: artichokegrower

Flee Flee why you can, sell your houses why you can.....this ship is going down


15 posted on 10/20/2011 7:30:29 PM PDT by dila813
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To: quantim

Is it possible that Californians...the ones who are still barely hanging on, see that the dems are tightening the thumb screws; actually veer to the right in the general election and finally go republican. Could happen.


16 posted on 10/20/2011 7:34:54 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: artichokegrower

If you couldn’t get out of Kali before...now is a good time to step up your efforts.

If you decided not to get out of Kali before, hopefully you will wake up.

Let’s move all of the Occupy Unemployement movements to California so they can all live together.


17 posted on 10/20/2011 7:36:29 PM PDT by digital-olive
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To: artichokegrower
Any Californians planning on building, do it now. When this kicks in,concrete will be non existent. Also, CARB and the agenda 21 crowd just won a major legal battle against home builders.

“Developers have been able to largely avoid the same regulations that apply to a smokestack," said Paul Cort, an Oakland attorney who represented the Sierra Club and Environmental Defense Fund in the case. "But these projects do create pollution by adding to the vehicle miles traveled."

http://www.cdtoa.org/news/carbnews/1688-in-an-environmental-case-that-is-expected-to-have-implications-across-the-bay-area-and-california

And Lastly, CARB’s systematic removal of class 8 trucks begins 1-1-2012

18 posted on 10/20/2011 7:36:29 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: artichokegrower

The Left is like uncut “Round-up” as a killer of society.


19 posted on 10/20/2011 7:39:26 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: artichokegrower
A little math:
20 posted on 10/20/2011 7:47:44 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: artichokegrower

Sorry to see this happen. I love California. So much good stuff out there!


21 posted on 10/20/2011 7:50:09 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: artichokegrower

California, here I come......or not.


22 posted on 10/20/2011 7:53:30 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Every time I think California can't POSSIBLY get stupider, they surprise me.

You'd think that just ONCE they'd put idiotic regulations on hold at least until the economy recovers, but noooo...

23 posted on 10/20/2011 7:55:35 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I don’t think people are seeing the big picture. This isn’t about the environment. this isn’t about communism.

This is about simple greed by wealthy leftists who are using communism and globull warming to steal from the people who produce the mst wealth on the face of the earth. We aren’t producing energy because they don’t own it, yet.

These people are no different than the thieves at the OWS shindig.


24 posted on 10/20/2011 8:01:58 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I am a Cainiac)
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To: Army Air Corps

At what point do us californians finally put our feet down and say, no! We will not obey your job killing and high taxing edicts! No! We revolt!


25 posted on 10/20/2011 8:04:19 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: artichokegrower

Federalism allows for nutty uncles living in the backyard.


26 posted on 10/20/2011 8:04:26 PM PDT by seton89 (Starve the Beast)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
In the short term, a lot will depend on how high they set the carbon costs. They could soon chase out whatever industry and power is left, and if they work at it, also make fuel cost 50% more in California than in adjoining states.

No industry = no jobs.

No jobs = no money

No money = no mortgage money

No mortgage money = lots of empty housing for unemployed illegals

Lots of unemployed illegals = lots of violence

Lots of violence = lots of dead people

Hmmm, just like Mexico

27 posted on 10/20/2011 8:10:25 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: artichokegrower

As the former governor would say, “hasta la vista, baby”.


28 posted on 10/20/2011 8:15:28 PM PDT by Hammer Tym (Skateboarding is a crime)
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To: fabian

We tried to put our foot down just one year ago. Surely you remember Prop 23 which would have suspended AB 32, the “Global Warming Act of 2006,” until unemployment dropped to 5.5%. It was defeated 62% to 38%!! Overwhelming defeat. Idiot voters have absolutely no idea what is in store for them. They thought that keeping AB 32 in place is going to save the planet and cost us absolutely nothing.


29 posted on 10/20/2011 8:24:08 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Well at some point the elloys will demand so much of our lives that we will have had it and really there will be a revolt nationwide. And I am not talking about a gentle one. they have far far surpassed what the King of egland was extracting from the colonists in the 1700’s.


30 posted on 10/20/2011 8:35:52 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: artichokegrower

This is gonna be funny as hell to watch while these morons economically kill themselves.

Grab the popcorn!


31 posted on 10/20/2011 8:47:53 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: artichokegrower

economic suicide


32 posted on 10/20/2011 8:57:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: fabian

I used to believe that, but not so sure anymore. The Brits are proposing to tax the daylights out of anyone over 60 to get them to move out of their houses or rent out rooms. This is the result of rabid socialism preventing private investment in housing. So their proposed solution is an even greater chokehold on the private citizen to make up for the shortfalls in their glorious worker’s paradise.

The frogs just don’t jump out of the pot. They are too fat, dumb, and lazy.


33 posted on 10/20/2011 10:12:41 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Over the last 40 years I have tried to put my foot down in every election; from city, to county, to state.
Every time I put my foot down, some liberal idiot judge or the communist controlled legislature hit it with a sledge hammer. When I got back to the states in 71, the state was crawling with hippy scum. By 73 I thought they were pretty much gone; damn was I wrong, they just went into politics.
I purchased 20 acres with a small two bedroom house in 1990 in a very remote location, every vacation since then I have been working on the place to turn it into a self sufficient farm. Not being able to be at the place 50 weeks out of the year since I bought it; it was pretty tough to take care of the orchard I planted, lost a lot of trees until they finally got established. I retired here last year and this is the first year I finally got a very good crop.
I will be damned and dead before I let the envirofreaks, the econazis and the suckramento bureaucrats take it from me.
My gate is 3 miles from any paved road and the sign on that gate says “IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PERSONAL INVITATION OR A WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE TURN AROUND AND GET OUT”
34 posted on 10/20/2011 10:37:15 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: artichokegrower

It is likely that other states will follow if this goes well in the eyes of the greens, as part of the WCI. They will also be linking with province systems in Canada...


35 posted on 10/21/2011 2:11:36 AM PDT by LBG11
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To: artichokegrower

The Land of Fruits and Nuts has now shown to the world it will never again be great.


36 posted on 10/21/2011 5:10:10 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: sanjuanbob

” actually veer to the right in the general election and finally go republican. Could happen.”

I think CA has gone too far down the hill for that.

I visited a friend I served with in the military. He was a hard-core patriot back then and had turned into a liberal squish. Hardly a bone left in his body. I know, it’s anecdotal. But there’s something in the air, maybe too many liberal molecules floating around. I don’t know.

I believe the only way to save CA is to declare the state in insurrection, and send in the military to remove the commies and fascists by whatever means necessary.


37 posted on 10/21/2011 6:11:25 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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38 posted on 10/21/2011 6:46:59 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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