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Mexican president: US dumping criminals at border
Yahoo/AP ^ | 10/21/11 | MARK STEVENSON

Posted on 10/21/2011 5:37:56 AM PDT by drpix

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexican President Felipe Calderon accused the United States on Thursday of dumping criminals at the border because it is cheaper than prosecuting them, and said the practice has fueled violence in Mexico's border areas.

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"There are many factors in the violence that is being experienced in some Mexican border cities, but one of those is that the American authorities have gotten into the habit of simply deporting 60 (thousand) or 70,000 migrants per year to cities like Ciudad Juarez or Tijuana," Calderon told an immigration conference.

Among these deportees "there are many who really are criminals..."

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"To the extent to which they continue to put absurd curbs on migration, to the degree to which they continue to persecute migrants in the United States in an irrational way that sometimes violates their human rights, in that measure American society will continue to lose competitiveness..." he said

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"Calderon said immigration shouldn't be seen as a threat or invasion..."

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; mexico; reconquista
Shouldn't be seen as an invasion? Even though the Mexican government has been waging a non-military war against the U.S., with territory as its aim and illegals as its army. Calderon is only the most recent of Mexico's leaders who's words prove this:
In 2007, Felipe Calderon, president of Mexico, denounced "unilateral measures taken by the U.S. Congress and government " against Mexicans illegally in the U.S. and declared: "Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."

In 2004, Vicente Fox, then president of Mexico, stated: "We are Mexicans that live in our territories and we are Mexicans that live in other territories. In reality, we are 120 million people that live together and are working together to construct a nation."

In 1998, Jose Pescador Osuna, then-consul general of Mexico, admitted: "We are practicing La Reconquista in California."

In 1997, Ernesto Zedillo, then president of Mexico, proclaimed: "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important – a very important – part of it."

It is obvious why Mexican leaders would want to lull Americans into ignoring the invasion, but why do so many Americans believe them and the American leaders who parrot this lie - including virtually all Democrats and many leading Republicans (Bushs, McCann, Huckabee, Perry, etc...).

1 posted on 10/21/2011 5:38:03 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

They should be dumped at Mexico’s southern border but that costs money.


2 posted on 10/21/2011 5:39:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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3 posted on 10/21/2011 5:42:39 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: cripplecreek

Mexico cultivated them, let Mexico process them. We have enough of their citizens up here costing us without having to spend extra to process the criminals we ‘remove’.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 5:45:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." Edmund Burke)
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To: drpix
Mexican President Felipe Calderon accused the United States on Thursday of dumping criminals at the border

Uhhhh...they're YOUR criminals!

5 posted on 10/21/2011 5:49:45 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: drpix
I am all in for dropping them on Mexico city, say 40000 feet, step out please.
6 posted on 10/21/2011 5:50:04 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: cripplecreek

Hey Mexico,they’re your damn criminals-deal with them according to your laws.We’ve got enough criminals of our own.


7 posted on 10/21/2011 5:52:48 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: drpix
To the extent to which they continue to put absurd curbs on migration, to the degree to which they continue to persecute migrants in the United States in an irrational way that sometimes violates their human rights, in that measure American society will continue to lose competitiveness

Calderon really is in bed with Obama. Sounds just like Obama or possibly more like Biden. Shall we post MEXICO'S immigration policy again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBOuHOXo1Vk
8 posted on 10/21/2011 5:54:17 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (Shaking My Head on a daily basis)
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To: drpix
"Calderon said immigration shouldn't be seen as a threat or invasion..."

Legal immigration is OK, but the flood of illegal immigrants is what we object to senor @$$hole.

9 posted on 10/21/2011 5:57:17 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: drpix

Bitch if you put the criminal aliens in jail or execute the worst of them yet bitch when youi send them home. Mexico needs to be re-educated as was Santa Anna.


10 posted on 10/21/2011 5:58:09 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: drpix

What is Calderon crying about? They always leave and come back norte’.

The commit crimes there and come here. Then they commit crimes here and then go there till the heats off.

He does have a point though. Our courts jump at a chance to let a previously deported alien self-deport again to avoid a trial. Happens all the time, ad nauseum.


11 posted on 10/21/2011 5:59:13 AM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's free, swipe your EBT!")
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To: drpix
persecute migrants in the United States in an irrational way

He's off his rocker as usual. They take our jobs, attend our schools, get free medical care, commit crimes against our citizens, tie up our court systems, cost us dollars while we make a half assed attempt to get rid of them and avoid paying the income tax that would help pay for their miserable existence in our country.

12 posted on 10/21/2011 5:59:54 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: cripplecreek
They should be dumped at Mexico’s southern border but that costs money.

It might be cheaper in the long run. But then they'd still manage to make it back here before our officials did.

13 posted on 10/21/2011 6:04:39 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: drpix

The Mexican “government” had no problem publishing and distributing manuals to it’s citizenry on how to successfully cross our border illegally. Calderon can pound Chihuahuan sand.


14 posted on 10/21/2011 6:05:53 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: drpix

What is Felipe complaining about? It’s just immigration in reverse. Nothing to fear.


15 posted on 10/21/2011 6:06:45 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Molon Labbie
"He does have a point though. Our courts jump at a chance to let a previously deported alien self-deport again to avoid a trial."

That's because life in Mexico is a worse sentence than our sit-on-your-ass US "jails."

I would love to see Calderon's reaction if an America 1st candidate became President and had a law passed where criminal Mexicans would be sentence to hard labor building the border wall before they were deported.

16 posted on 10/21/2011 6:07:44 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

This is wrong. They should be being dumped OVER the border.


17 posted on 10/21/2011 6:21:51 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: McLynnan

10% of Mexico’s population resides in the United States.

They don’t want their criminals sent back but they sure pitch a fit when we execute them. And we don’t do it fast enough, IMHO.

Hey Caulderon, or Caulderez, whatever your name is, be sure to tell them to pack their own bean burritos. Some prisons aren’t giving last meals before they push the plunger anymore.


18 posted on 10/21/2011 6:21:57 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: cripplecreek

Can we dump Duh Bummer there? Nah, ya’ll don’t want the POS POTUS either...any takers, anywhere? please take poor uhbummer into your bosom, let him destroy your economy etc...what a guy..


19 posted on 10/21/2011 6:23:43 AM PDT by aces
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To: count-your-change

Felipe: immigration for thee and not for me.

This article is music to my ears.


20 posted on 10/21/2011 6:24:52 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: drpix

I have said several times here that if they come here to work, then we should put them to work building roads, breaking rocks or digging ditches. Building the wall is pure genius, friend.

Tent city, no welfare, no medicaid, no foodstamps, no Section 8 housing, no unlicensed cars, no alcohol, no underage girls to exploit, impregnate or rape.

And don’t forget bologna sandwiches. The store brand bologna with the orange marked down sticker on it.


21 posted on 10/21/2011 6:25:17 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Eagle of Liberty
Calderon likes to sleep around. He's also in bed with Perry.

Perry and Calderon Blast Border Policies

22 posted on 10/21/2011 6:37:16 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: cripplecreek
They should be dumped at Mexico’s southern border but that costs money.

Think economy of quantity friend, quantity! A large cargo plane, southern Mexican border, cheap parachutes, possibly made in China.

Wait a minute. Why waste money on parachutes, dump 'em out.

23 posted on 10/21/2011 6:39:53 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: drpix

New show on Univision and Mexican TV:

``Mexico`s Most Wanted`` ,

with Juan Walshez

-If you spot any of these criminals, don`t call us.


24 posted on 10/21/2011 6:40:18 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Molon Labbie
The commit crimes there and come here. Then they commit crimes here and then go there till the heats off.

I watched a documentary last night where an American citizen, kidnapper/murderer fled to Mexico and on a request by U.S., Mexican federales picked him up, escorted him to the border and shoved him into the hands of Texas Rangers.

A refreshing change from their usual policy of not extraditing murderers without guarantees that the death penalty won't be applied.

That's the kind of cooperation we need all the time from the Mexicans. We don't need no steenkin extradition papers!

25 posted on 10/21/2011 6:47:51 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice
And we would even provide jobs for gun-loving Americans to make sure they build that wall correctly - Cool Hand Luke style:

But America's problem has never been the lack of workable solutions to this problem. It has always been one of Americans voting for politicians who put America first.

26 posted on 10/21/2011 6:52:38 AM PDT by drpix
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To: TADSLOS

Did you read the artvcile? It proves Perry isn’t for amnesty.


27 posted on 10/21/2011 6:53:54 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: LevinFan

Dumping at the border? Mexico City would be better? Besides the U.S. is fully capable of finding all the criminals it needs, no need to import any.


28 posted on 10/21/2011 7:00:52 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: lonestar

Here’s what we do: Dress a few thousand of them in military uniforms. Second, give them captured AK-47’s from our Grenada operations. Third give them all parachutes and dump them off over Cuba. Jam Cuba’s radio communications. Castro will think that they are being invaded and go on national alert. Very entertaining.


29 posted on 10/21/2011 7:01:45 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: lonestar; TADSLOS
Who didn't read the article? Did you read the 1st paragraph?

"Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday criticized the U.S. Congress for failing to pass an immigration bill that would legalize millions of workers."

The McCain-Kennedy Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 was a permanent Amnesty for illegals.

Legalizing illegals IS AMNESTY whether it's temporary or permanent - even if you don't call it amnesty!

30 posted on 10/21/2011 7:14:10 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
Mexican president: US dumping criminals at border,

Yes. And?...

31 posted on 10/21/2011 7:16:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: cripplecreek
They should be dumped at Mexico’s southern border but that costs money.

They should ALL be dumped smack dab in Mexico City!

32 posted on 10/21/2011 7:29:49 AM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: drpix
Legalizing illegals IS AMNESTY whether it's temporary or permanent - even if you don't call it amnesty!

As you know, giving "amnesty" to illegals is often confused with giving citizenship to illegal immigrants.

Gov. Perry has often been falsely accused of being in favor of giving illegals citizenship.

He is in favor of giving guest-worker permits to make them legal to be here to work. I have no problem with that.

Spend the $$$ and efforts to get rid of the criminals.

33 posted on 10/21/2011 8:52:31 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar
...He is in favor of giving guest-worker permits to make them legal to be here to work. I have no problem with that....

How many Americans and legal residents currently don't have jobs, and how many illegal aliens do have jobs? It appears you are in favor of illegals working her over Americans and legal residents. How much do we pay in welfare and food stamps, unemployment etc for legal residents and Americans who could be working if the illegals were not?

Whats your limit on legalizing these illegals, 10 million 20 million or should we only stop when your job is in jeopardy of being taken by an illegal? You are pretty free and easy with my tax dollars are you a politician or a liberal? Where is your compassion for Americans and legal residents?

34 posted on 10/21/2011 9:01:35 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
... should we only stop when your job is in jeopardy of being taken by an illegal?,

I don't do yard work or pick fruit...so I'm not worried.

I do have a better ideal than yours to save money and get work done...

make all the free loaders living in gov't housing, getting welfare checks for doing nothing, making more babies that our tax dollars support...

do the jobs that illegal immigrants are doing!

When the NOLA Katrina "victims" were living in rent free apts. in Houston, guess who went to NOLA to do construction jobs?

Don't even imply that illegals are taking jobs from "entitled" Americans, because if you even think that it proves you are extremely ignorant.

35 posted on 10/21/2011 9:25:08 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

... should we only stop when your job is in jeopardy of being taken by an illegal?,

,,,,, I don’t do yard work or pick fruit...so I’m not worried.,,,,

What a self centered baloney statement, do you think illegals pick fruit and do yard work all their lives? How many roofers, meat packers, etc have lost their jobs to illegals? What if we let professional illegals compete against doctors and lawyers do you think they might object and not be so liberal minded then? How dare you ignore people with a job “ below” yours. First they took their jobs and later they will take yours...You do see about illegals getting in state tuition in many states don’t you? Do you think they will leave the US when they graduate or try and get your job? I think you are very shortsighted. What do you do for a living that doesn’t worry you about losing it to an illegal? How about the President of the US? is he an illegal doing the work Americans won’t do?

...I do have a better ideal than yours to save money and get work done...

thats good, but what was my plan?

.... make all the free loaders living in gov’t housing, getting welfare checks for doing nothing, making more babies that our tax dollars support...

do the jobs that illegal immigrants are doing!...

first of thats a great idea, but there is more than one way to change that..get rid of the illegals and let the wages of the “non-desirable” jobs reach a free market price level.

When the NOLA Katrina “victims” were living in rent free apts. in Houston, guess who went to NOLA to do construction jobs?

Don’t even imply that illegals are taking jobs from “entitled” Americans, because if you even think that it proves you are extremely ignorant.

I am not ignorant I know many americans and legal residents who cant stand illegals because they are taking jobs away from them and keeping their wages down. Look at the drop in meat packing wages and framers roofers etc because of comptetition from illegals.. Methinks you are the one who may be ignorant or just plain avoiding the facts.

I agree we need to end the entitlements, they are ruining the country and breaking it.


36 posted on 10/21/2011 10:40:49 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: lonestar

... should we only stop when your job is in jeopardy of being taken by an illegal?,

,,,,, I don’t do yard work or pick fruit...so I’m not worried.,,,,

What a self centered baloney statement, do you think illeglas pcik fruit and do yard work all their lives? How many roofers, meat packers, etc have lost their jobs to illegals? What if we let professional illegals comp-ete against doctors and lawyers do you think they might object and not be so liberal minded then?

...I do have a better ideal than yours to save money and get work done...

thats good, but what was my plan?

.... make all the free loaders living in gov’t housing, getting welfare checks for doing nothing, making more babies that our tax dollars support...

do the jobs that illegal immigrants are doing!...

first of thats a great idea, but there is more than one way to change that..get rid of the illegals and let the wages of the “non-desirable” jobs reach a free market price level.

When the NOLA Katrina “victims” were living in rent free apts. in Houston, guess who went to NOLA to do construction jobs?

Don’t even imply that illegals are taking jobs from “entitled” Americans, because if you even think that it proves you are extremely ignorant.

I am not ignorant I know many americans and legal residents who cant stand illegals because they are taking jobs away from them and keeping their wages down. Look at the drop in meat packing wages and framers roofers etc because of compteition from illegals.. Methinks you are the one who may be ignorant or just plain avoiding the facts.

I agree we need to end the entitlements, they are ruining the countryand breaking it.


37 posted on 10/21/2011 10:45:09 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
You know there are people who are turning down jobs because they are content with their unemployment.

Your cost of living is a LOT higher than in TX so we have very different experiences with wages.

Actually, with the cost of living differences, only stupid illegals stay in CA! LOL!

38 posted on 10/21/2011 10:56:46 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: lonestar

If Perry isn’t for amnesty then why does he have a problem with e-verify? Why does Perry feel compelled to give in state tuition rights to illegals and why does Perry not fight for eliminating sanctuary cities? You and Perry can howl til the cows come home about how he’s not for amnesty. But his actions and inaction speak louder than his campaign rhetoric.


39 posted on 10/21/2011 12:10:01 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Posting without reading the thread, so apologize if this was covered. In addition to not providing a last meal, earlier I heard on the radio that Texas prisons won’t be serving lunch on Saturday anymore. You know what they say, don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, especially if you like to eat.


40 posted on 10/21/2011 1:47:06 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: cripplecreek

Might be cheaper if we airdrop ‘em.


41 posted on 10/21/2011 3:21:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: drpix

Pot....Kettle. Kettle......Pot....sh!t man, give me a friggin break...


42 posted on 10/21/2011 3:22:44 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: drpix

U.S. citizens........ Mexico dumping their criminals at southern border
to become America’s problem.


43 posted on 10/21/2011 6:37:35 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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