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Texas Prisons Have Stopped Serving Weekend Lunches(Boo Hoo!Take Out Your Hankies)
Gawker ^ | Seth Abramowitz

Posted on 10/21/2011 7:49:02 AM PDT by lbryce

After outlawing special last-meal requests for prisoners on death row, the Texas prison system has now gone one better: They're outlawing meals, period, for everyone.

Since April, the New York Times reports, inmates have not been provided lunches on Saturdays and Sundays.

It's a cost-cutting measure: an effort to trim $2.8 million in food-related expenses from the Texas Department of Criminal Justice's 2011 budget, which makes up just a small part of the state's multi-billion-dollar budget shortfall. They've made other changes elsewhere — say powdered milk instead of actual milk, or sliced white bread instead of hamburger buns. The practice is already in effect in Ohio and Arizona prisons; Georgia goes further, serving two meals per day on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

The American Correctional Association recommendations state inmates should receive three meals per day, seven days a week. But Daron Hall, the president of the ACA, has no problem with Texas's new policy:

"In the economic climate we're in, you're asked to do some creative and inventive things."

John Whitmire, the Democratic state senator whose kvetching led to the last-meal ban, said this:

"If they don't like the menu, don't come there in the first place."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: prisons; texas
John Whitmire, the Democratic state senator whose kvetching led to the last-meal ban, said this:

"If they don't like the menu, don't come there in the first place."

We have a winner!

To the uninitiated, Gawker is a left-wing, liberal orifice. BTW:If you happen to notice, the author, Seth Abramowitz, failed Grammar 101, basic article-writing class.

1 posted on 10/21/2011 7:49:05 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Here comes a lawsuit. And I bet they win.


2 posted on 10/21/2011 7:52:31 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: lbryce

“...say powdered milk instead of actual milk...”

Why are they serving milk in the first place? Do they have 5-year olds in there?


3 posted on 10/21/2011 7:55:52 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: MestaMachine
Here comes a lawsuit. And I bet they win.

The idea behind incarceration is punishment by deprivation of liberty. If the punishment is supposed to be starvation, rape or brutality, that's what they ought to be sentenced to.

4 posted on 10/21/2011 7:56:39 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: randog

They should get moldy bread and water.


5 posted on 10/21/2011 7:57:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Give them the ‘school lunch’ that Moochelle says is killing us..................


6 posted on 10/21/2011 8:00:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Obama's number one economics advisor must be a Magic Eight Ball.................)
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To: lbryce

this is just a tip to Prison folks everywhere

pick a group of decent cooking prisoners like Mob guys, Cubans, Greeks, Southern rural blacks etc

and make a budget and deliver the food as promised and let them prepare it and make sure everyone is fed...no favoritism

and you will save money and have better prepared food

so much food destined for prisons doesn’t get to the prisoners

it ends up sold by staff, at guard’s recreation center, the wardens freezers and whatnot

you take almost any joint except maybe Arpaio’s and you will find steaks and shrimp and all sorts of goodies on the prison food manifest that I promise you the prisoners never see

it’s wasteful...kickbacks too another big issue

many prisoners who can afford it eat most food of their own they buy at commissary etc and cook at microwave or with a stinger

no one watches this stuff so much since empathy for locked up folks is not exactly high on the empathy scale hence a prime place for staff to make out


7 posted on 10/21/2011 8:01:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (Nothing lasts forever.....that is evident)
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To: lbryce

by the way

anyone named Seth is probably a liberal


8 posted on 10/21/2011 8:02:14 AM PDT by wardaddy (Nothing lasts forever.....that is evident)
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To: randog

Cereal and milk is cheap for breakfast..in bulk


9 posted on 10/21/2011 8:03:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (Nothing lasts forever.....that is evident)
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To: MestaMachine

Don’t count on it. Out here in AZ, Sheriff Joe (our hero) serves green balony (died to make it wretched looking) on day old bread and tells the folks, “If you don’t like the time, don’t do the crime.” As much as the bleeding hearts try to sue, he continues to win. Go Joe.


10 posted on 10/21/2011 8:04:02 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: lbryce

White bread! How Racist!!!


11 posted on 10/21/2011 8:06:26 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: lbryce
They've made other changes elsewhere — say powdered milk instead of actual milk...

THAT might be a MAJOR deterrent to crime.

Powdered milk? Blech. Double-Blech. TRIPE-Blech.

My Mom made us try that crap once as a potential grocery-money-saving venture. Fortunately, she hated it as much as we did -- and forty-some years later I can ALMOST forget that awful taste.

If I was a criminal and knew I would be served powdered milk in prison I would immediately go straight, go to college and get a real job.

12 posted on 10/21/2011 8:06:43 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm at NO additional charge.)
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To: wardaddy

Yep, the Goodfellas ate better in the joint than they did outside.


13 posted on 10/21/2011 8:08:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
The idea behind incarceration is punishment by deprivation of liberty. If the punishment is supposed to be starvation, rape or brutality, that's what they ought to be sentenced to.

Two meals a day is not "starvation." There are many hard-working, law-abiding Americans who eat only two meals a day because they are too busy trying to make a buck in the Obama depression and/or they don't have the money for three meals a day.

14 posted on 10/21/2011 8:10:12 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: lbryce
or sliced white bread instead of hamburger buns

Now THAT is cruel and unusual punishment (hamburgers and hot dogs on sliced bread are one of my pet peeves).

15 posted on 10/21/2011 8:10:38 AM PDT by apillar
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To: lbryce
The point that non-Texans need to understand is that

"If they don't like the menu, don't come there in the first place."

comes from a Texas democrat liberal.

A fellow like George Bush would be considered a conservative in most of the country. He's not in Texas.

16 posted on 10/21/2011 8:10:47 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Labyrinthos
When I traveled to Sharia based Muslim countries in a previous life for work, I was told that jailbirds there did not get fed at all. Their families or friends were expected to bring in food for them.

Maybe the Texas Department of Corrections should just announce they are observing Sharia law three meals per week for everyone as sort of an outreach to their disproportionate number of Muslim jailbirds.

17 posted on 10/21/2011 8:20:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: lbryce

F-— ‘em, feed ‘em beans! (Thrice, no twice daily)


18 posted on 10/21/2011 8:24:15 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: bigbob

Actually, wheat and wheat byproducts can be “racist” ~ for folks who are gluten intolerant. What they need to do is feed everybody grits. They are possibly the best hypoallergenic food on the market and they are much cheaper than bread!


19 posted on 10/21/2011 8:24:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Labyrinthos
My hubby and I have always had just one main meal a day, then maybe a snack later, but we are retired and don't WORK UP an apatite.

The 3 meals a day habit, in my opinion, was when the farmers/workers got up at 3 or 4 a.m., ATE and hit the fields. By Noon they came in for lunch, back to the fields and worked until about 6 or 7 p.m., then had supper. These people worked HARD, the time span between meals made them understandably hungry.

Today no one works that hard, and most do not need 3 meals a day, but to each their own.

20 posted on 10/21/2011 8:25:06 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: muawiyah

Time for the obligatory nutraloaf post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutraloaf


21 posted on 10/21/2011 8:27:39 AM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: nascarnation
The FLDS crowd there in Texas had their own "nutritious loaf" ~ when it dropped on the cutting board it went CLUNK!!!

Wonder what that was made with?

22 posted on 10/21/2011 8:34:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: lbryce
I absolutely disagree with this policy. The prisoners should receive adequate food. That is three meals a day.

We know that many of these prisoners are in for nonviolent drug charges and due to the insane minimum sentencing laws for drug offenses, many will spend a much longer term than they should.

That being said. The food served tot he prisoners is not the massive cost of incarceration. It is the large wage, benefits and union rules associated with the prison unions. I am not sure of the problems in TX, but the entire government of CA is basically a money laundering program for the prison guard union.

23 posted on 10/21/2011 8:42:41 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: lbryce

I was driving through Wayne County Georgia last month, and it did my heart good to see a good ole fashioned “chain gang” (although not in chains), mowing and trimming the grass of public areas, and picking up trash. Snazzy looking black/white uniforms too.

I would have no problem feeding them 3 squares, but not while sitting on the tin cans doing nothing. Make them produce for society.


24 posted on 10/21/2011 8:54:02 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: lbryce
Have to fund those prison guard pensions one way or the other.
25 posted on 10/21/2011 8:54:45 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

What we have heh is a failyuh to communicate...


26 posted on 10/21/2011 8:55:26 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Jim from C-Town
I am not sure of the problems in TX, but the entire government of CA is basically a money laundering program for the prison guard union.

Only one of the differences between TX and CA.

I absolutely disagree with this policy. The prisoners should receive adequate food. That is three meals a day.

Based on your comments, in TX, you would be left of the liberal Democrat...and that is what's wrong with CA.

27 posted on 10/21/2011 9:06:05 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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28 posted on 10/21/2011 9:10:26 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: muawiyah

You can order one of those at collinstreet.com

It’s called the Texas Blonde Pecan Cake. Apricot Pecan Cake also goes clunk if you drop it.


29 posted on 10/21/2011 9:24:03 AM PDT by ngat
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To: lonestar
Providing three meals a day is not too much to expect, even for prisoners. I am sure the scumbags at Gitmo get at least three Hal-eel meals a day.

Find something else to cut back on, graft and corruption would be a good start.

30 posted on 10/21/2011 9:35:35 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: lbryce

Liberal Dictator in Black Robes reversing this policy in 3......2.......1......


31 posted on 10/21/2011 9:56:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Jim from C-Town

What are you in for, Jim?


32 posted on 10/21/2011 10:29:42 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

A friend of mine worked for the prison system in MO. He only ordered turkey for meat...turkey ham, turkey sausage, turkey bacon. He said the prisoners were whining about being Muslim and couldn’t eat real ham. Buying only turkey saved them a lot of money.


33 posted on 10/21/2011 11:22:23 AM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: lbryce

I’m generally Attila here, but I think three meals a day is basic. Give them PB&J, but give them something.


34 posted on 10/21/2011 11:32:03 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Salvavida
I was driving through Wayne County Georgia last month, and it did my heart good to see a good ole fashioned “chain gang” (although not in chains), mowing and trimming the grass of public areas, and picking up trash. Snazzy looking black/white uniforms too.

"I'm shakin' it boss, I'm shakin' it."

35 posted on 10/21/2011 11:33:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TangoLimaSierra
That's funny.

I simply believe that we have too many people in prison and the court system for nonviolent crimes. Minimum sentencing guidelines put nonviolent drug criminals in prison displacing violent criminals.

As there are thousands of separate laws on the books and the fact that we over charge and over prosecute so many crimes, it makes us a free society with millions in prison, on parole and probation.

The criminal justice system has turned into little more than an expensive jobs program for police, prison guards, lawyers, judges and other government personnel.

There are too many laws, leading to too many criminals. When they are locked up, the least we can do is provide three meals a day for them. It is the incarceration and loss of freedom itself that is the punishment.

36 posted on 10/21/2011 11:34:26 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


37 posted on 10/21/2011 12:13:23 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: annieokie

Actually, you have to add a ‘lunch’ between each of the three meals you listed, total of 5 ‘meals’ a day, although the extra 2 were just sandwiches. Two peices of bread, and several slices of meat.

When I was a kid I got to go out and eat with the men too. It was always great.


38 posted on 10/21/2011 4:08:57 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yes, I’m no bleeding heart when it comes to criminals but I was not aware of Ga’s policy and I disagree with it. Beans and rice are pretty cheap and very nutritious. I think they should get 3 meals of some sort even if its just a snack at lunch or something. Of course I also advocate every last one of them up and out every morning picking up trash on the side of the road.


39 posted on 10/21/2011 5:45:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cowgirl

Turkey bacon would be enough to keep me from recidivism.


40 posted on 10/21/2011 5:53:08 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I’ll have to look that one up. lol


41 posted on 10/21/2011 10:48:25 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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