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Cain Up by Double-Digits in Iowa (Univ. of Iowa Poll) released 10/21/11
Univ of Iowa ^ | 102111 | Univ of Iowa

Posted on 10/21/2011 12:09:14 PM PDT by Fred

Cain 37% Romney 27% Ron Paul 12% Perry 6%

86% say they're somewhat or very satisfied with the current GOP field.

Univ of Iowa Poll Press Release 102111

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: JohnKinAK

It needs simplified. We don’t need our jobs moved around following musical zones or a prebate, both of which require new bureaucracies.

A simple flat tax will be preferable. You made _______, if that is above $20,000 send us 19% of it.


21 posted on 10/21/2011 12:35:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Grunthor

Perry is actually Romney’s stalking horse.

22 posted on 10/21/2011 12:35:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“Perry is actually Romney’s stalking horse.”

To keep Cain from

23 posted on 10/21/2011 12:39:14 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: Fred

Why did it take a full week to do this poll?

You know what I think? You need some perspective - this same outfit’s 2007 poll, done 10/17-10/24, in 2007 (another week?):

Mitt Romney 36.2%, Rudy Giuliani 13.1%, Mike Huckabee 12.8%, Fred Thompson 11.4%, John McCain 6.0%, Tom Tancredo 2.2%, Others 3.5%, Undecided 14.9%

Actual result:

Mike Huckabee 34.4%, Mitt Romney 25.2%, Fred Thompson 13.4%, John McCain 13.1%, Ron Paul 10%, Rudy Giuliani 3.5%, Duncan Hunter .4%

24 posted on 10/21/2011 12:39:55 PM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: rogator

Yes, Cain is Pro Life.

25 posted on 10/21/2011 12:40:06 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way...
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To: rogator

In no uncertain terms - Cain is 100% pro life and he believes it should be ILLEGAL


His history on this issue:

National Right to Life Conference Speech

Herman Cain on Abortion

African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life (2006)

Herman Cain Reaffirms Commitment to Pro-Life Principles—8Oz3-WCSgU7

Cain Picks Clarence Thomas as Model for Supreme Court Pick

2004 - Herman Cain blasts Roe v. Wade (Free Republic -

And Alveda King affirmed on Facebook that she knew and worked with Cain on Pro-life issues over the years and testifies that he is Prolife

Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz

Herman Cain: Planned Parenthood Should Be Called ‘Planned Genocide’

Herman Cain was endorsed by the Georgia Right-To-Life PAC in the 2004 US Senate GOP primary. Cain’s primary challenger from 2004, Johnny Isakson, had a pro-choice streak in his voting record and it was the reason why GRTL endorsed him.

Life, liberty & pursuit of happiness starts with unborn life
The Founding Fathers got it right. The Founding Fathers got it right because of those fundamental principles: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They also got it in the right order. That wasn’t an accident. Their vision meant that you could pursue happiness in America as long as you don’t infringe upon the liberties of somebody else. And you can pursue all the liberties that you want as long as you don’t infringe upon the life of anybody else. And that starts with the life of the unborn.
Source: , May 1, 2011

Defund Planned Parenthood; intent was to kill black babies
I absolutely would defund Planned Parenthood—not because I don’t believe in planning parenthood, [but because] Planned Parenthood as an organization is an absolute farce on the American people.

People who know the history of Margaret Sanger, who started Planned Parenthood, they know that the intention was not to help young women who get pregnant to plan their parenthood. No—it was a sham to be able to kill black babies.
Source: Interview on the Bryan Fischer radio show , Jan 18, 2011

Life begins at conception, period
I believe that life begins at conception, period. And that means that I will have to see enough evidence that someone I would appoint shares that same view. I believe that the current Supreme Court is leaning too much to the liberal side.

I’m a Christian, I’ve been a Christian all my life. I’ve been a believer in the Bible since I was 10 years old. I’m very active in my church, and there is no way I would compromise my religious beliefs about the sanctity of life. And so it starts with, will they have demonstrated, in some of their other rulings, if they come from the federal judge bench, whether or not they also share that.

Because I believe that the principles that our Founding Fathers cherished, when they founded this country, and wrote the Declaration of Independence which inspired the Constitution, they were based upon biblical principles. I want to get back to those principles as president, if I run and get elected—not rewrite those documents.

26 posted on 10/21/2011 12:41:04 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 -
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To: Grunthor
I've changed my mind. This is who I want to be my next president.

27 posted on 10/21/2011 12:42:20 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: GeronL

I respect you man but I don’t know where you are getting the bureaucratic component stuff from? The so called ‘opportunity zones’ are designed to reduce bureaucracy and wave rules like the minimum wage and such to encourage growth in certain areas. I’m not saying it is perfect and it is true that in the past so called ‘empowerment’ have been big pork barrel boondoggles but that most certainly IS NOT the idea that Cain has. Now just as with anything there is no guarantee such things will remain as planned as others implement them which is always the risk but overall Cain’s plan drives the conversation in the right way which is towards tax simplification. People and businesses who now pay virtually no income taxes will which is good from a political perspective too. When you don’t have any skin in the game and think that all these govt programs and giveaways are ‘free’ then you tend to make less sound decisions. The big thing needed to help prevent using taxes in an abusive fashion is a Constitutional amendment to limit taxation specifically. What I’d like personally is to remove the ability of the federal govt to collect any taxes directly from citizens and instead the states would have to authorize what they will provide to fund the federal government. This would end the cycle of money flowing from the states, the feds taking a cut and sending it back in a money laundering scheme that would make a crime family proud. Most states receive exactly back or a bit more in taxes than they contribute the overhead is passed onto richer states and contributes to the debt with the DC benefiting the most and taking the biggest cut. This change would save a lot of cash and also force decentralization.
A another more difficult amendment would limit states and their tax devices to direct taxes of individuals just as originally written into the second constitution which we are under. It may not be necessary because as long as people are free to move from state to state bad tax policies in one state will benefit those states that have more business friendly policy.

Well that’s my tax plan and I think it would forever change the country for the better. It would minimize federal power and increase the power of governors and state legislatures and produce a better self limiting system. Either way Cain’s plan does not produce a bigger bureaucracy. Those who are saying that are just lying. I’m supporting Cain now because I think he provides an excellent opportunity for us. Will he be perfect? No but if the biggest criticism of him is that he has no experience in elected office then that isn’t bad.

Don’t be tricked into the perfect being the enemy of the good. Ending up with Romney is not an option. Let’s disarm Obama with his opposite. A private sector advocate who has worked and been successful with real mainstream businesses. Let’s bring the Cain and we just may change the dynamic forever and destroy the Democrat African American Republicans are racist dynamic in the process. Right now Cain doesn’t have the name rec but has some of the highest positives of any of the candidates. That should tell you something. What other candidates are slamming those stupid OWS protesters and calling them what they are?

It comes down to do you believe we can will without electing a status quo politician. If we can’t then what exactly are we fighting for?

28 posted on 10/21/2011 12:42:20 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Fred

Hopefully Romney will have to resort to his, “we competed and won a Bronze Medal” speech...

29 posted on 10/21/2011 12:42:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: GeronL

Where’s a FRed Thompson or Sarah Palin when ya need him?

probably lying on a beach somewhere with the kids.. ;-]

PS: Tim Pawlenty called and said he’s available .. again.

30 posted on 10/21/2011 12:42:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: All

Good for Cain. Early on, Cain will take Iowa, but Romney will take NH and Nevada. But Florida will be a big help for both candidates. Cain needs to campaign more in Florida.

31 posted on 10/21/2011 12:43:34 PM PDT by imchris
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To: South40

The guy in the beard, right?

32 posted on 10/21/2011 12:45:30 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: Fred

But but but...even Krauthammer told us that if Romney wins Iowa, it’s all over.


33 posted on 10/21/2011 12:46:28 PM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: imchris

Last I saw Cain is up big in S. Carolina and up 5 in Florida.

34 posted on 10/21/2011 12:46:55 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: Grunthor

lol! Yeah — that one.

35 posted on 10/21/2011 12:47:00 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: rogator


1) Herman was asked whether he’d make a female relative who was raped raise her baby.

2) Herman said that the question was getting two things mixed up: allowing the abortion and making a woman who was raped raise the baby.

3) Since he doesn’t support forcing a woman who was raped to raise the baby, he said “it would be up to the family.” People have mistakenly taken that to mean that he was talking about an abortion instead of raising the child. A woman who was raped might want to put her child up for adoption.

It’s easy as 1-2-3 to understand Mr. 9-9-9 on abortion. He opposes government funding of abortion and will veto any legislation that contains funds for Planned Parenthood. He’s against abortion even in cases of rape or incest. You won’t get much better than that.

36 posted on 10/21/2011 12:47:17 PM PDT by Cato in PA
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To: Maelstorm

Those zones will have to be administered and monitored (by WHAT?), states will have to reapply (to WHAT?) for their zone annually.

Your job will be incentivized to move to Detroit. It’s that simple. Spreading the jobs around instead of creating them.

Make the whole country a zone! A simple one paragraph flat tax without new forms of taxes and without new bureaucracies.

37 posted on 10/21/2011 12:50:46 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: imchris

Herman Cain has made great strides in New Hampshire. Victory in the liberal northeast is a long shot, but if he can pull it off, it would sure take the wind out of Romney’s sails.

I haven’t seen anything for Nevada yet.

38 posted on 10/21/2011 12:51:05 PM PDT by Cato in PA
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To: GeronL

How did you arrive at that conclusion? I think the government jobs lost by Herman Cain’s limited government policies might cause a temporary rise in the unemployment rate, and we may have a slight rise in work men’s compensation, but the tax payer will no longer be paying the enormous salaries to those let go. That, in itself, is an immense savings! Go Herman Cain!

Read 2 Thessalonians 2.

The media will be coming down hard on Mr. Cain. Do not be taken in by them.

39 posted on 10/21/2011 12:51:51 PM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain.)
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To: justsaynomore
It's sad that at this late date you have to continue posting this on a "conservative" site. I find the postings of many Perry supporters much more dishonest and offensive than the Giuliani supporters in 2007/2008.

Thanks for keeping things straight.

40 posted on 10/21/2011 12:52:01 PM PDT by Prokopton
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