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Iowa: Cain 37, Romney 27, Paul 12, Gingrich 8
Hot Air ^ | OCTOBER 20, 2011 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 10/21/2011 7:37:49 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Remember when Iowa was going to be a battle between Perry and Bachmann for the conservative vote? He’s now at 5.9 percent, she’s at 3.9 percent. They’re barely ahead of Newt Gingrich — combined.

Cain by 10 with the caucuses just 75 or so days away. Unless he’s taken major damage over this week’s abortion kerfuffle, which I doubt, I don’t see why he can’t be this cycle’s Huckabee.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; hermancain

1 posted on 10/21/2011 7:37:50 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

As it should be.


2 posted on 10/21/2011 7:39:15 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: doc1019

You got that right. Cain 2012. Proud to be able to have a great President again.


3 posted on 10/21/2011 7:41:53 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: RobinMasters

Interesting that Cain leads by far among those who identify as Strong GOP -and- very high among those as Not Strong GOP.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 7:43:07 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: doc1019

Karl Rove told Greta tonight that Newt spent all day in a museum in Chicago looking at dinosaur bones. He said he _should_ be in Iowa pressin’ the flesh. Like my bro Rick Perry should be.

Standard BullyPulpit Disclaimer Applies.


5 posted on 10/21/2011 7:43:29 PM PDT by bullypulpit (Developer of http://rickperryreport.com/)
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To: bullypulpit

Gingrigh is just waiting in the weeds.


6 posted on 10/21/2011 7:46:36 PM PDT by TwoSwords (Has anyone seen my suspension of disbelief pills?)
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To: bullypulpit
"Newt spent all day in a museum"

It is hard to figure Newt. It is almost as if he is shooting for Secretary of State in sombody else's administration.

7 posted on 10/21/2011 7:49:01 PM PDT by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: RobinMasters

Yet Romney still treats Perry as his main rival.


8 posted on 10/21/2011 7:51:40 PM PDT by independent in tx
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To: bullypulpit

I used to have a tremendous amount of respect for Karl Rove, until I realized that he had passed over to the dark side.


9 posted on 10/21/2011 7:51:40 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: Designer

It is hard to figure Newt. It is almost as if he is shooting for Secretary of State in sombody else’s administration.

Bingo. My guess is Newt would take any cabinet position offered. He’s a politician at heart.


10 posted on 10/21/2011 7:52:33 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: RobinMasters
Cain lost me in the last 24 hours with his waffle talk.

9-9-9 is now 9-0-9, which is the same old stuff we've gotten from politicians forever.

His lack of a strong opinion on abortion makes me wonder if he isn't as big a compromiser as Romney.

It's so sad there are no real men in this race.

11 posted on 10/21/2011 7:54:27 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: RobinMasters
Rick Perry should be all over the media -- on interview shows, talk radio, Sunday round-table shows, etc., just speaking his mind, letting the voters get to know him, his take on the issues, his in-depth policy prescriptions, and his guiding philosophies.

ROTFLOL

12 posted on 10/21/2011 7:55:47 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Newt. The Grownup in the Room.)
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To: Glenn

You might want to read this, re: Cain and abortion:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2796268/posts


13 posted on 10/21/2011 7:57:34 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Glenn

Since when has any politician suggested those below the poverty line pay 9%?

Cain’s plan has them still paying 9% in sales tax, just not the 1.35% income tax they would have to pay. (9 - 7.65% payroll tax = 1.35%)


14 posted on 10/21/2011 7:58:59 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: flaglady47

Yep, and if not he’ll take speaking and TV appearances for 10X what he used to get paid for them. Mama needs new ice!


15 posted on 10/21/2011 7:59:06 PM PDT by bigbob
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16 posted on 10/21/2011 8:00:29 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: RobinMasters

Allahpundit’s been gunning for Romney.

Sigh.


17 posted on 10/21/2011 8:04:55 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: RobinMasters

Still don’t understand why Romney is still up in the numbers?


18 posted on 10/21/2011 8:08:10 PM PDT by classified
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To: Glenn

What do you mean lack of strong opinion on abortion? He said he’s personally pro-life, but doesn’t see it as the government’s role to tell people what to do.


19 posted on 10/21/2011 8:09:24 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: RobinMasters; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; ...

Cycling ping


This strikes me as being a bit like a road race, or tour stage. We had an early breakaway with Bachmann and Pawlenty, then the pack came together. On some early hills a pretender named Trump tried to make a show, but got dropped straight away.

Romney is in the leader's jersey, but, he is in the peloton riding ahead of the chaos to avoid the crashes- yet not willing to send his team to the front this early.

Then we had an attack from Perry, but he was run down and is going backwards. Cain was in that chase group, drafting up until now and is staying at the front. The attacks are coming again and it is like a break away attempt that goes too soon and can't hold on.

It looks like he's gone too soon and may not have the support to take it home.

With all of the teams lining up and marking the favorites, might it be Noot who is looking for the right wheel and the open lane to jump out and take it all?

20 posted on 10/21/2011 8:10:31 PM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: RobinMasters

I am so glad this is the last election Ron Paul is going to be in, I am so tired of him taking 10% of the conservative vote away from the real conservatives in the race and increasing the chance of a liberal getting the nod.


21 posted on 10/21/2011 8:11:35 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: RobinMasters

Thanks for posting the “Don’t Know” stats. Cain with 39 + % is something he will need to work on a little harder. No other candidate has challenged the other candidates to write down THEIR ideas like Cain has.

This is going to be a great Primary for generating good planks/ideas for the eventual Republican Nominee.


22 posted on 10/21/2011 8:12:58 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: Glenn
Cain is a businessman who spent his life learning to adjust to conditions and trends. Politicians hold their ground,even when they are wrong because they have partisans to please.

This will be an interesting game.

23 posted on 10/21/2011 8:17:07 PM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Glenn

Geeze shut up about Cains abortion stance. You are listening to liberal smears.

The man is the most conservative out of all the republican candidates on the issue. Read what he has said..not these cut up quotes that make it sound like he is some kind of pro abortion rino.


24 posted on 10/21/2011 8:35:00 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Fantasywriter

Rick Santorum should be out attacking the candidate who was saying when he ran for office in Massachusetts that he believed in a “woman’s right to choose.”

But that doesn’t fit the game plan since Mitt Romney is the annointed candidate of the GOP Establishment that Rick Santorum comes from.

Santorum’s candidate for president in Iowa back in 1996 was some guy named Arlen.


25 posted on 10/21/2011 8:49:22 PM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Baynative

I think Mr. Cain is a great man. He survives.

Sadly, our country is not run like a real business. It should be, but it isn’t.

As great as I think Mr. Cain’s ideas are...he will have to get them thru The Legislative Branch.

I have great ideas myself, I run a successful business. But I don’t have 400+ dissenters to deal with.

That will be the problem...vote in the Senate and House elections. That will be the ultimate answer.


26 posted on 10/21/2011 8:49:34 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Glenn

TODAY:
In no uncertain terms - Cain is 100% pro life and he believes it should be ILLEGAL

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1231152829001/herman-cain-im-pro-life-from-conception/

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His history on this issue:

National Right to Life Conference Speech
http://hermancainissues.com/speeches/right-to-life-conference-speech-62411/

Herman Cain on Abortion
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Herman_Cain_Abortion.htm

African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life (2006)
http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/

Herman Cain Reaffirms Commitment to Pro-Life Principles
http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?LVMF—8Oz3-WCSgU7

Cain Picks Clarence Thomas as Model for Supreme Court Pick
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/232604/20111017/herman-cain-clarence-thomas-supreme-court.htm

2004 - Herman Cain blasts Roe v. Wade (Free Republic - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1063707/posts

And Alveda King affirmed on Facebook that she knew and worked with Cain on Pro-life issues over the years and testifies that he is Prolife

Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/18/herman-cain-defund-racist-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz/

Herman Cain: Planned Parenthood Should Be Called ‘Planned Genocide’
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/herman-cain-planned-parenthood-should-be-called-planned-genocide.php

Herman Cain was endorsed by the Georgia Right-To-Life PAC in the 2004 US Senate GOP primary. Cain’s primary challenger from 2004, Johnny Isakson, had a pro-choice streak in his voting record and it was the reason why GRTL endorsed him.

Life, liberty & pursuit of happiness starts with unborn life
The Founding Fathers got it right. The Founding Fathers got it right because of those fundamental principles: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They also got it in the right order. That wasn’t an accident. Their vision meant that you could pursue happiness in America as long as you don’t infringe upon the liberties of somebody else. And you can pursue all the liberties that you want as long as you don’t infringe upon the life of anybody else. And that starts with the life of the unborn.
Source: , May 1, 2011

Defund Planned Parenthood; intent was to kill black babies
I absolutely would defund Planned Parenthood—not because I don’t believe in planning parenthood, [but because] Planned Parenthood as an organization is an absolute farce on the American people.

People who know the history of Margaret Sanger, who started Planned Parenthood, they know that the intention was not to help young women who get pregnant to plan their parenthood. No—it was a sham to be able to kill black babies.
Source: Interview on the Bryan Fischer radio show , Jan 18, 2011

Life begins at conception, period
I believe that life begins at conception, period. And that means that I will have to see enough evidence that someone I would appoint shares that same view. I believe that the current Supreme Court is leaning too much to the liberal side.

I’m a Christian, I’ve been a Christian all my life. I’ve been a believer in the Bible since I was 10 years old. I’m very active in my church, and there is no way I would compromise my religious beliefs about the sanctity of life. And so it starts with, will they have demonstrated, in some of their other rulings, if they come from the federal judge bench, whether or not they also share that.

Because I believe that the principles that our Founding Fathers cherished, when they founded this country, and wrote the Declaration of Independence which inspired the Constitution, they were based upon biblical principles. I want to get back to those principles as president, if I run and get elected—not rewrite those documents.

ontheissues.org

26 posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 2:41:04 PM by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)

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To: Grunthor

I’ve changed my mind. This is who I want to be my next president.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzHcvuU_Co0


27 posted on 10/21/2011 8:55:54 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Nextrush

What you’re saying makes sense to me. Along those lines, I really like the way Newt talks during the debates, BUT, he also backed establishment candidate Dede Scozzafava, in the NY special election. She was so RINO, she ended up throwing her (considerable) weight behind the Dem candidate, who beat out a good conservative.


28 posted on 10/21/2011 9:01:59 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: CSI007; TexasFreeper2009; BenKenobi; onyx; justsaynomore; 2ndDivisionVet; fireman15; ...
Piers Morgan used the "what if your granddaughter were raped--would you deny her the right to an abortion" trick question.

Herman Cain is clearly pro-life, life begins at conception. To say the government ought not be telling his granddaughter what to do when she's raped--

This has been misconstrued to attack Herman Cain by many mockingbirds.

I just wrote the WHO program manager regarding Jan Mickelson's and Steve Deace's precise twisting of the reply to a loaded question.

There is a frenzy to dynamite conservative prospects and install another McCain-like crash dummy.

2010 all over again will prove the majority dark matter of the universe triumphant.

Obama would kill babies who survive abortion; Romney swore he would defend Margaret Sanger's war on blacks.

Now comes Piers Morgan to drag raping Cain's granddaughter into the political arena for the lions to tear apart.

We expect nothing more of these flea-bitten winged monkeys.


29 posted on 10/21/2011 9:08:44 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Utmost Certainty

You mean he read the 10th Amendment????!!!! No politician has ever done that before. No sarc tag. I am serious. AFAIAC, that goes along with gay marriage into states rights, but we havent had those in 146 years.


30 posted on 10/21/2011 9:12:34 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: Utmost Certainty

You mean he read the 10th Amendment????!!!! No politician has ever done that before. No sarc tag. I am serious. AFAIAC, that goes along with gay marriage into states rights, but we havent had those in 146 years.


31 posted on 10/21/2011 9:12:47 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: agrarianlady

Unfortunately, for many people, politics is like a team sport. They only superficially believe in the issues; they enjoy the thrill of rooting for their team far more. Election night is like SuperBowl.

Such people are willing to pick Romney over actual conservatives because they want to maximize their changes for a victory over the opposing team.


32 posted on 10/21/2011 9:18:42 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom
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To: PhilDragoo

At this point its the people versus the politicians-the Tea Party versus the GOP Establishment-Herman Cain versus Mitt Romney.

The other folks from Santorum to Newt to Bachmann, Perry etc. need to pull out and tell us whose side they’re on.

Aside from Bachmann, you can be sure the rest of them would prefer Romney.

With the exception of Ron Paul, who’s on his own frequency.

Sarah Palin needs to fish or cut bait at some point, too.


33 posted on 10/21/2011 9:21:17 PM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Cruising For Freedom

Sounds like a good explanation of Rush Limbaugh’s blind loyalty to the R team and his steadfast opposition to a third one.


34 posted on 10/21/2011 9:23:31 PM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Nextrush
Rick Santorum as Rick Lazio.

Michelle Bachmann awakes from a dream and before telling Mr. DeMille she's ready for her closeup says she knows nothing of her New Hampshire staff's defection.

Perry shall rise again.

Ron Paul under glass.

Jon Huntsman or the Wax Museum dummy--you decide.

And the Disney animatronic Mr. Mitt Goes to Babylon as himself.

Sarah Palin could endorse somebody between buffing her nails.

Okay, there. I said it.

This is for all the chips.


35 posted on 10/21/2011 9:50:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Baynative

Pretty good analogy there.


36 posted on 10/21/2011 9:56:15 PM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: When do we get liberated?

Exactly. His position on abortion is the most Constitutionally consistent one I’ve ever heard from someone running for elected office.


37 posted on 10/21/2011 9:57:49 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: CSI007
Geeze shut up about Cains abortion stance. You are listening to liberal smears.

Fool.

I heard what he had to say and English is my first language.

38 posted on 10/21/2011 10:26:20 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: All

Three months ago, no one even knew who Herman Cain was.

He may be the next POTUS

Granted, he is not as slick and polished as some others, but he has a year to work on his campaigning style and is the only true conservative with a chance of winning, not to mention, he is a TP member.

No more RINO’s!


39 posted on 10/22/2011 12:04:15 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (The true face of the left that the MSM won't show: www.zombietime.com)
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To: Glenn

From the front page of: http://www.hermancain.com/h

“Yesterday in an interview with Piers Morgan on CNN, I was asked questions about abortion policy and the role of the President.

I understood the thrust of the question to ask whether that I, as president, would simply “order” people to not seek an abortion.

My answer was focused on the role of the President. The President has no constitutional authority to order any such action by anyone. That was the point I was trying to convey.

As to my political policy view on abortion, I am 100% pro-life. End of story.

I will appoint judges who understand the original intent of the Constitution. Judges who are committed to rule of law know that the Constitution contains no right to take the life of unborn children.

I will oppose government funding of abortion. I will veto any legislation that contains funds for Planned Parenthood. I will do everything that a President can do, consistent with his constitutional role, to advance the culture of life.”


40 posted on 10/22/2011 1:55:10 AM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Glenn; Utmost Certainty; CSI007; justsaynomore; Marie
I saw the interview too. You are wrong, here is the transcript.

MORGAN: Abortion. What's your view of abortion?

CAIN: I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances. And here's why --

MORGAN: No circumstances?

CAIN: No circumstances.

MORGAN: Because many of your fellow candidates -- some of them qualify that.

CAIN: They qualify but --

MORGAN: Rape and incest.

CAIN: Rape and incest.

MORGAN: Are you honestly saying -- again, it's a tricky question, I know.

CAIN: Ask the tricky question.

MORGAN: But you've had children, grandchildren. If one of your female children, grand children was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?

CAIN: You're mixing two things here, Piers?

MORGAN: Why?

CAIN: You're mixing --

MORGAN: That's what it comes down to.

CAIN: No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.

Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue.

MORGAN: By expressing the view that you expressed, you are effectively -- you might be president. You can't hide behind now the mask, if you don't mind me saying, of being the pizza guy. You might be the president of United States of America. So your views on these things become exponentially massively more important. They become a directive to the nation.

CAIN: No they don't. I can have an opinion on an issue without it being a directive on the nation. The government shouldn't be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to social decisions that they need to make.

MORGAN: That's a very interesting departure --

Transcript

Cain is saying that as President he can't FORCE his beliefs onto the rest of the citizens. Do you want Obama to be able to FORCE his beliefs onto the rest of the citizens? We are fighting against Obama, now. Do you want to give Obama a pass? It is clear from the transcript that Cain was talking about raising a baby not aborting it!

Utmost Certainty; CSI007; justsaynomore; Marie - Feel free to copy and paste this as you see fit, to those that would perpetuate a lie and misrepresent Herman Cain.

41 posted on 10/22/2011 3:35:08 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Nextrush
The other folks from Santorum to Newt to Bachmann, Perry etc. need to pull out and tell us whose side they’re on. Aside from Bachmann, you can be sure the rest of them would prefer Romney.

Kind of reminds me when Santorum backed Arlen Specter. He's acting like a total backstabber. Again.

42 posted on 10/22/2011 7:02:54 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Baynative

Cain looks like he’s planned for a long solo breakaway.

Romney will let him go thinking he doesn’t have the race savvy , experience to make it.

Based on the thread title Cains plan is working to date.

Lots of tarmac ahead, and certainly someone will crash, so
lets see who’s got the legs/heart to tough out the long haul.

Whoever it is we need to dethrone the “ tricycle ( kids version) rider currently holding the maillot jaune....

P.S. Great analogy. Many political analysts , talking heads could learn a lot from your take.


43 posted on 10/24/2011 5:29:19 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Baynative


Nice Cannondale.
44 posted on 02/27/2012 9:42:42 AM PST by BaBaStooey ("Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will give you light." Ephesians 5:14)
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