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Parents' Attorney Doubts Cadaver Dogs [Lisa Irwin case]
FOX Kansas City ^ | 10/22/11

Posted on 10/22/2011 2:13:29 PM PDT by freespirited

The attorney representing the parents of Lisa Irwin said Saturday on a national news show that the cadaver dog "hit" referenced in the search warrant, could have other reasons, nothing to do with Lisa.

"My understanding is that there are cold cases where dogs have hit on scents of decomposition that had been in the home for as long as 28 years," Cyndy Short, with McCallister Law Firm, said to ABC's Good Morning America. "This is an old home, 63 years old. There could be a lot of other explanations for that," she said.

Nineteen days after 11-month old Lisa Irwin disappeared, Short also tried to clarify the reason Deborah Bradley told police she didn't look for her baby in the yard the night she disappeared.

"She was deathly afraid," Short said in the interview. "I think in that fear, not knowing what happened to that child, that she didn't want to find something in the backyard that might have been terrible."

On Sunday, Cyndy Short is scheduled to be interviewed by FOX 4. We will bring you a complete report from that interview on FOX 4 newscasts and FOX4KC.com.

Lisa disappeared October 4th. Police ask you to call the TIPS Hotline at 816-474-TIPS if you have any information helpful to the case.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox4kc.com ...


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I was on the fence about what happened to this adorable little baby ... until now. The cadaver dog hit is one reason, but even bigger is learning that the mother says she didn't search the yard out of fear of what she might find.

This is just not credible to me. If I woke up and a family member was missing, especially an infant, I'd be out in the yard searching faster than the speed of light.

1 posted on 10/22/2011 2:13:33 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

That line bothered me, too. When you love someone, it overrides the fears.


2 posted on 10/22/2011 2:16:34 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: freespirited

****I’d be out in the yard searching faster than the speed of light****

Or sending the daddy out to look. Which begs the question -what was he doing?.

There is an ongoing thread on this case - if this one gets pulled for duplication:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2796164/posts


3 posted on 10/22/2011 2:20:40 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature.)
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To: freespirited

AND screaming for help at the top of my lungs if my phone was missing.


4 posted on 10/22/2011 2:22:37 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: sodpoodle

The father had just started a new job working the night shift.


5 posted on 10/22/2011 2:23:12 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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6 posted on 10/22/2011 2:23:35 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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The baby was discovered ‘missing’ by the father when he returned from work. So my question applies - why didn’t he go outside and search the yard.

Probably fenced, because they have a dog.

My first instinct would be that she climbed out of her crib and out the open door.


7 posted on 10/22/2011 2:30:26 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature.)
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To: freespirited

They didn’t look outside, won’t ask 6 and 8 year olds if they recall hearing/seeing anything, never tried to call their cell phones to see if someone answered and keep going in front of the cameras to explain her “adult time” drinking. The defense will try to turn this into a distraught woman who just didn’t know what to do when the baby died accidently.


8 posted on 10/22/2011 2:35:17 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Andy'smom

I thought it was a one time night shift? Was this going to be an ongoing time slot?


9 posted on 10/22/2011 2:36:24 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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I've always been of the understanding that such dogs 'hit' on decomp - and if the baby died in the home, it sure as heck wouldn't have hit that stage in ten hours.

This is a weird story all around, though.

10 posted on 10/22/2011 2:39:14 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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No doubt you are right, it will be an accident defense. However if they find the body in time, the evidence may prove otherwise.

I don’t know what happened but my best guess is that the mother shook her because she wouldn’t stop crying.


11 posted on 10/22/2011 2:40:19 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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I have read that when a body is on a surface, cells can slough off that are of course invisible to the naked eye. However, the cells continue to break down after the body is removed, producing the cadaver smell.


12 posted on 10/22/2011 2:43:13 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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I’m really betting an accident......A 10 month old....left her on the bed and turned her back....It’s a 2 second thing...and yes it happens every day....


13 posted on 10/22/2011 2:43:52 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: freespirited

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14 posted on 10/22/2011 2:44:45 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Capitalism is the right of the individual to pursue happiness and keep the fruits of their labor.)
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My understanding is that cadaver dogs hit upon the scent of decomposition. I doubt very seriously if sufficient decomposition would have set in in the time the child's supposedly dead body lay in the house. The mother was out buying diapers, evidently in high spirits, just a few hours before the supposed disappearance; it's not likely she would have been doing that had the child been already dead.

In other developments, three eyewitnesses in two separate locations near the child's home saw a man in a t-shirt carrying a baby clad only in a diaper. The first sighting occurred around midnight on the night of the disappearance; the second four hours later and three miles away.

My opinion ... and it's only an opinion ... is that the mother is guilty of getting drunk and falling asleep with the house wide open to an opportunistic criminal.

15 posted on 10/22/2011 2:53:11 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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However, the cells continue to break down after the body is removed, producing the cadaver smell.

A typical house is full of dead cells shed from its living occupants. If you knew how much dead skin was in your mattress, you probably wouldn't want to sleep on it.

16 posted on 10/22/2011 2:54:56 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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If these three witnesses had come out on day one or day two....I might believe this story. I do accept the fact that three different folks saw this weird guy, and it has value. But if so....then it’s a homeless guy (he didn’t drive away and literally walked blocks and blocks). If you add this into the script....this guy is still within five miles of the neighborhood....living under some bridge or in some tent.


17 posted on 10/22/2011 3:15:05 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: sodpoodle

It was reported early on Jeremy went outside to look for her, I believe prior to calling 911 or perhaps after he had called. Not sure, but he/she said he looked outside.

There are so many conflicting stories about their timelines that they have obviously been lying. I hate to think that baby is dead but the cadaver dog hit has me pretty much convinced.


18 posted on 10/22/2011 3:45:54 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Andy'smom

From what I’ve read and according to the People article, this was a second job, helping a “friend” at the Starbucks that evening. It was reported he thought he would be home about 10:00 pm but the job took longer than expected but he couldn’t call Deborah since their cell phones weren’t working because of not paying the bill. However, Deborah said the phones could receive calls but they couldn’t make outgoing calls. They are both lying.


19 posted on 10/22/2011 3:48:34 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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She didn’t want to search the yard out of fear of what she’d find? Bull dung! A mom instinctively races out there to maybe get there just in time and save the child! A mother would risk everything to save her child! Except these strange murdering moms in the news...


20 posted on 10/22/2011 3:49:57 PM PDT by Yaelle (Is FR worth one good restaurant meal a month? Then donate that amount.)
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