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The Myth of the ‘Ethical Vegan’
Pajamas Media ^ | 10/23/2011 | Ward Clark

Posted on 10/23/2011 6:42:18 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: FatherofFive

>Why do humans have canine teeth? We were designed to eat meat.

Those canine teeth are vestigial at best. Canine teeth of omnivores and carnivores are sharp and can tear into flesh very easily. Human teeth resemble herbivore teeth more than omnivore teeth.

>Where do vegans get their B vitamins?

You mean B12. Nutritional yeast

>I do believe cancer is fairly new. But I believe it comes from additives in foods and other chemicals introduced into our lives.

It comes from humans living longer than normal and being at a higher risk for cell mutations as a result.


61 posted on 10/23/2011 12:41:04 PM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (Springtime in America will arrive on January 21, 2013.)
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To: JimRed

Do what I do with my step daughtr when she asks if something is made with chicken broth. I just show her a box of vegetable broth powder I bought so she thinks the dish is vegetarian. I refuse to speciality cook for the vegan/vegetarians at my house. They don’t cook meat for me at their house. My gluten-free b-i-l has to bring his own bread or crackers or deset with him,


62 posted on 10/23/2011 12:52:26 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier ("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
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To: IbJensen
Other “ethical vegans” whose behavior toward humanity wasn’t so ethical included ... Himmler...

Heinrich Himmler? The Nazi? Himmler was a chicken farmer.

63 posted on 10/23/2011 2:16:16 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: IbJensen

Ethical vegan is a mythologicical creature.


64 posted on 10/23/2011 2:34:07 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: FatherofFive
Cancer is more prevalent because people live longer.

When the average life span was 45 as it was at the turn of the 20th century...Fewer deaths from cancer.. more from accident, disease and child birth.

It's one to a customer.. you can only shift statistics, you can't change the inevitable.

65 posted on 10/23/2011 2:53:42 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: IbJensen
Most vegan women are lesbians.

That makes them...vagitarians.

66 posted on 10/23/2011 2:58:59 PM PDT by Erasmus (I love "The Raven," but then what do I know? I'm just a poetaster.)
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To: JNRoberts
Meat came after the flood of Noah. All the vegetation was dead so God give Noah permission only “clean” meats.

I think you're confused about what the bible says:

3.Genesis 9:3 (Whole Chapter) Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

5.Genesis 27:4 (Whole Chapter) And make me savory meat, such as I love, and bring it to me, that I may eat, that my soul may bless thee before I die."

67 posted on 10/23/2011 3:06:40 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: IbJensen
Number of issues arise.

Sentience being one of them...The ability to be self aware or just the ability to feel something.

Mother nature is a carnivore...Everything alive eats something else..Even photosynthetic plants do..They just eat it second hand after worms and bacteria have broken it down.

Mother nature doesn't care if the last spotted owl kills and eats the last slinking skink.

The vegans...does something else alive have to go into their mouths before the life matters?

Would they try to avoid bed bugs if their beds were infested, or treat scabies if the parasites were burrowed under their skins.

How about bacteria...Suppose they get salmonella from the organic cow plop that grows their mung beans...are they going to take antibiotics?

And what about bacteria for their std’s or anti-virals for herpes or HIV?

68 posted on 10/23/2011 3:09:56 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Mogollon

>>>I think you’re confused about what the bible says:

3.Genesis 9:3 (Whole Chapter) Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.>>>

Fair question. Let’s let the Bible interpret itself for clarification and put it in context. Does God now say all meat is clean to eat? Here in Genesis? Remember, he told Noah to put both “clean and unclean” animals into the ark in the previous chapters of Genesis.

Then, still later in Deuteronomy and Isaiah, God clearly again shows that there are clean and unclean meats to eat. And we are not to eat unclean. So God has clean and unclean animals before the flood and after the flood. And this one text is used by some to mean......see, there it is. God doesn’t have clean or unclean meats. But he does, both before Genesis 9 and after Genesis 9.

And of course even in Genesis 9 there’ a “BUT” in the very next verse after 3, verse 4 starts wit BUT. Yes, God does say things and then has a “BUT”....he gave Noah all meat to eat “BUT” those that had blood and based on what he said about clean and unclean meats BEFORE Genesis 9 (see Genesis 7 where he tells Noah what is clean and unclean) and AFTER Genesis 9, see Deuteronomy and Isaiah 66.........and there you have the Bible interpreting itself not based on ONE text....Genesis 9:3. But on several texts.

Bottom line, God told Noah what was clean and unclean BEFORE Genesis 9, and he states what’s clean and unclean well AFTER Genesis 9, and even in Genesis 9 itself, God has a “BUT” after telling Noah what meat he could eat, verse 4.

When we let the Bible interpret itself, we find all the answers.

There was no meat eating in Eden because there was no death, and there will be no meat eating in the new earth because there will be no death.

A if a pig was unclean before the cross, (most Christians say Kosher is Jewish and it’s not)....a pig is unclean after the cross.

I’ts funny, some people say...whoa, in places like Korea or Vietnam, they eat dogs or cats, or even Rats.

I say...big deal. I know people who eat Pigs and shrimp and lobsters, the cockroaches of the ocean. Thank God for the Bible!

And to the person who says Adventists think keeping the Sabbath is required for salvation, the fourth commandment is no more required than the one about adultery, lying, stealing, or worshiping other Gods. But people think they can play picky choosey with the Ten Commandments.

And in any case......keeping any of the Ten commandments will save no one and the Seventh day Adventist Church official position is just that. The official position of the church is grace alone through faith alone because nobody keeps anything perfectly. But just because a person can’t keep anything perfectly, doesn’t mean he tosses the baby out with the bathwater.

And besides, when people say “I heard an Adventist say this or that”.....It goes in one ear and out the other....I heard that a million times. And it’s never true.


69 posted on 10/23/2011 5:18:09 PM PDT by JNRoberts
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To: IbJensen

Once again folks: Hitler was a vegan!


70 posted on 10/23/2011 5:21:27 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Melas

Thanks for the education. I am referring to gals who call themselves vegans. Gals who eat vegan. Who say they are vegan.


71 posted on 10/24/2011 4:32:17 AM PDT by all the best
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To: upcountryhorseman

The veg-heads have high regard for all forms of animal life, but when it comes to baby humans you just can’t fill enough dumpsters with baby corpses to please them.


72 posted on 10/24/2011 6:25:09 AM PDT by IbJensen (Ron Paul For President! Or anyone other that Romney!)
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