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Defections by Senate Dems hamper Obama’s message on jobs
The Hill ^ | 10/21/11 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 10/23/2011 9:16:42 AM PDT by neverdem

Democratic defections and a united Republican front are hampering President Obama’s message on the economy.

Last week and again Thursday night, there were a couple Democratic defections on Obama’s jobs measure. And despite a veto threat from the White House, 10 Democrats voted for a GOP alternative.

The lack of a united front is complicating a key part of Obama’s reelection strategy of running against Washington, and Congress in particular.

Obama has been lambasting the politics of Capitol Hill, and some say a few stray Democratic votes will prevent that message from resonating with voters in 2012.

Others claim that Democratic votes against Obama’s jobs bills will be cited repeatedly next year by Republicans, who are determined to show Obama has failed to lead.

The White House stresses that a large majority of Democrats are solidly behind their president.

“Let’s be clear. Ninety-five percent of Senate Democrats voted to put teachers and first responders back to work. Exactly 0 percent of Senate Republicans joined them,” White House press secretary Jay Carney told The Hill on Friday.

“The bill failed because Senate Republicans blocked it. Senate Republicans decided they would not ask millionaires and billionaires to pay a little bit more in order to put up to 400,000 teachers in our classrooms teaching our children.”

The Republican measure offered on the floor Thursday night won more votes than Obama’s proposal.

The GOP embraced a component of Obama’s jobs proposal eliminating the 3 percent withholding tax on federal contracts.

The administration favors the concept, but balked at the Republican offsets of unspecified spending cuts. The Office of Management and Budget added that if the bill were presented to the president with the offsets, his senior advisers would recommend a veto.

The threat did not sway some Democrats, who voted with the GOP. The 10 Democrats defections were: Sens. Al Franken (Minn.), Kay Hagan (N.C.), Robert Menendez (N.J.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.), Michael Bennet (Colo.), Ben Nelson (Neb.), Jon Tester (Mont.), Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.) and Bill Nelson (Fla.).

Of these senators, Franken, Klobuchar, McCaskill and Tester are co-sponsors of a similar measure offered by Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.). After the vote, Republicans noted that Sens. Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) are also co-sponsors of Brown’s bill, but voted no.

Begich's and Pryor’s offices did not comment for this article at press time.

The Republican alternative attracted 57 votes, falling three short of passing and collecting more support than the Democratic bill backed by Obama, which was rejected, 50-50.

Every Republican rejected the Obama-backed bill while Sens. Pryor, Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Ben Nelson also voted no.

Last week, Tester and Ben Nelson voted no on advancing Obama’s comprehensive bill, and a couple others noted their opposition on the underlying legislation as they voted yes on the procedural motion.

Don Stewart, spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said, “By adding poison pills to their own legislation, Democrats ensured that the only thing bipartisan about their bills — is the opposition.”

Following the roll call, a frustrated Obama said, “For the second time in two weeks, every single Republican in the United States Senate has chosen to obstruct a bill that would create jobs and get our economy going again. That’s unacceptable.”

Democrats had hoped to crack the Republican unity by seeking a vote on a scaled-back version of Obama’s measure. But centrist GOP Sens. Scott Brown, Olympia Snowe (Maine), Susan Collins (Maine) and Mark Kirk (Ill.) rejected it.

The $35 billion Democratic bill was designed to prevent layoffs of teachers, police officers and firefighters in cash-strapped states. Most of the funding, $30 billion, would have gone to saving teaching jobs, with the rest of the money directed to first responders.

Vice President Biden on Wednesday visited Capitol Hill to hold a rally with Senate Democrats, ripping Republicans for protecting millionaires at the expense of the working class.

Republicans countered by accusing Senate Democratic leaders of playing politics and decried their effort to raise taxes in an ailing economy.

Some of the differences between the two parties reflect rival views on how best to help the economy. Democrats have focused on measures that could spur growth in jobs immediately through temporary tax and spending measures. Republicans have focused on permanent changes to the tax code and trade deals, which they believe could have a larger impact on the economy in the long run.

Despite the defections on the Democratic side, there are signs that Republicans are worried about Obama’s jobs message and his aggressive use of the bully pulpit. Contrary to this summer, during the heated debt-limit negotiations, GOP lawmakers have softened some of their rhetoric, noting they want to find common ground with the White House on Obama’s jobs bill.

For example, the House will vote next week on the 3 percent withholding rule. GOP leaders have pointed out that Obama included repealing this mandate in his jobs plan. However, House Republicans have refused to allow a vote on the president’s entire proposal — a fact that Obama has cited in speeches.

Obama and congressional Republicans worked this month to pass three long-stalled trade agreements, but the bipartisanship has not lingered.

After Obama called Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to congratulate him on the passage of the trade pacts, Boehner chastised him for suggesting Republicans don’t have a jobs plan, according to a readout of the testy 10-minute call released by the Speaker’s office.

Days later in North Carolina, Obama mocked Republicans for not approving his entire jobs proposal.

“Maybe they just couldn’t understand the whole thing all at once,” Obama said during an address in Asheville, N.C.

“So we’re going to break it up into bite-size pieces so they can take a thoughtful approach to this legislation,” Obama said earlier this week.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: franken; hagan; klobuchar; menendez
The 10 Democrats defections were: Sens. Al Franken (Minn.), Kay Hagan (N.C.), Robert Menendez (N.J.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.), Michael Bennet (Colo.), Ben Nelson (Neb.), Jon Tester (Mont.), Joe Manchin (W.Va.), Claire McCaskill (Mo.) and Bill Nelson (Fla.).

IMHO, most of them are up for re-election in 2012 and 2014. Besides Michael Bennet (Colo.) and Al Franken (Minn.), who isn't?

1 posted on 10/23/2011 9:16:48 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: All

Franken is up for 2014. Pardon me.


2 posted on 10/23/2011 9:23:20 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Ho! Ho! My rat senator (Menendez) is on the list. There is hope here in NJ. I do wish however that pubs would publicize exactly how much the rich can really help here....how much is an additional 5 or 10% tax on the rich and how mmany $$$$ does that come to? It is my understanding that even if you take ALL the money from millionaires it wouldn’t amount to that much. Anyone know?


4 posted on 10/23/2011 9:25:57 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: neverdem

I’m shocked that these good Democrats oppose Obama.

Is it true that on Obama’s recent trip to North Carolina and Virginia, that the local Democrat congressmen didn’t want to be see with him? Obama and his boys don’t have the political skills to keep their party in line.


5 posted on 10/23/2011 9:27:23 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: neverdem

WHAT????
How can this be?

MSNBC told my left-leaning friends that the EVIL Republicans were holding up the jobs bill! And they believed it.


6 posted on 10/23/2011 9:28:08 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Whenever Menendez does not vote along with Lautenberg something is fishy is going on.
Oh right! up for election next year. How many of those cRats voted different from their other cRat of the same state ?


7 posted on 10/23/2011 9:36:46 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: neverdem

From Zero Hedge:

“This Week’s Reports: 3Q Real GDP Expected to Grow at +2.5%! (Or Is It Down -5.5%?), Case-Shiller Up +0.2%! (Or Is It Down -0.8%?)

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/

Using the old definition of CPI, real GDP actually fell 5.5% in Q3.


8 posted on 10/23/2011 9:37:51 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: neverdem

Following the roll call, a frustrated Obama said, “For the second time in two weeks, every single Republican in the United States Senate has chosen to obstruct a bill that would create jobs and get our economy going again. That’s unacceptable.”


9 posted on 10/23/2011 9:41:43 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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10 posted on 10/23/2011 9:43:46 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: neverdem

Both Minn Dems defected, Machin voted opposite of Rockefeller, Bennet opposite of Col. Dem Udall,

What is the message in Minn?


11 posted on 10/23/2011 10:08:12 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: neverdem
The White House stresses that a large majority of Democrats are solidly behind their president.

Yeah...as in running away.

12 posted on 10/23/2011 10:08:12 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obama's ratings are so low...Kenyans accuse him of being born in the USA,)
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To: spokeshave

Baraq will be a lonely boy on the 2012 campaign trail.

Only Dems in the most absolutely whackjob liberal districts will dare appear with him.


13 posted on 10/23/2011 10:09:57 AM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: neverdem
Amazing that Franken voted against this bill.

Bachman no doubt is having a real effect there. And the huge move against the unions in WI is not helping Al either.

14 posted on 10/23/2011 10:16:27 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: neverdem
Carney: “The bill failed because Senate Republicans blocked it. Senate Republicans decided they would not ask millionaires and billionaires to pay a little bit more in order to put up to 400,000 teachers in our classrooms teaching our children.” Gee, that really great Jay. Now explain how these folks will continue to get paid when this money runs out.
15 posted on 10/23/2011 10:17:02 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: neverdem

Herman Cain has a plan that will open up millions of jobs from the ground up. He says drill here, and drill now. And here is why Herman Cain is right!

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/blog/id.7985/blog_detail.asp
Prof. Terry J Lovell


16 posted on 10/23/2011 10:33:46 AM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain)
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To: neverdem

Simple....its’ called “UP FOR RE-ELECTION”.


17 posted on 10/23/2011 11:04:13 AM PDT by max americana
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To: neverdem

Here’s a few Dem Senators up for re-election in 2014: Tim Johnson (SD), Max Bacus (MT), Mary Landrieu (LA), Mark Begich (AK), Jeanne Shaheen (NH), and Kay Hagen (NC).

In 2014, 20 Dems will be up for re-election, but only 13 Reps.

(In 2012, 23 Dems will be up for re-election, but only 10 Reps.)


18 posted on 10/23/2011 11:16:07 AM PDT by Atlantan
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

“Defections by Senate Dems hamper Obama’s message on jobs”

s/b

“Defections by Senate Dems put the lie to Obama’s message on jobs”

Thanks neverdem.


19 posted on 10/23/2011 12:18:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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20 posted on 10/23/2011 12:20:55 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: New Jersey Realist; Coleus; jocon307; Alberta's Child; Pharmboy; Calpernia; Malsua; dead; nj26; ...
Ho! Ho! My rat senator (Menendez) is on the list. There is hope here in NJ. I do wish however that pubs would publicize exactly how much the rich can really help here....how much is an additional 5 or 10% tax on the rich and how mmany $$$$ does that come to? It is my understanding that even if you take ALL the money from millionaires it wouldn’t amount to that much. Anyone know?

Biden’s Fourth-Grade Economics

Where are these people? Evidently, not in York, Pa. But they’re out there somewhere. Who has “a lot of money”? According to President Obama, if your combined household income is over $250,000 a year you have “a lot of money.” Back in March, my National Review colleague Kevin Williamson pointed out that, in order to balance the budget of the United States, you would have to increase the taxes of people earning more than $250,000 a year by $500,000 a year.

Menendez probably crapped in his pants with the election of Christie.
22 posted on 10/23/2011 1:17:34 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
“The bill failed because Senate Republicans blocked it. Senate Republicans decided they would not ask millionaires and billionaires to pay a little bit more in order to put up to 400,000 teachers in our classrooms teaching our children.”

It is not the role of the Federal government to directly fund the expenditures of state and local governments. Doing this sort of thing on a routine basis undermines our very system of government.

23 posted on 10/23/2011 1:55:33 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: neverdem
The Republican measure offered on the floor Thursday night won more votes than Obama’s proposal.


24 posted on 10/23/2011 2:15:00 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Iron Munro
Days later in North Carolina, Obama mocked Republicans for not approving his entire jobs proposal.

“Maybe they just couldn’t understand the whole thing all at once,” Obama said during an address in Asheville, N.C.

“So we’re going to break it up into bite-size pieces so they can take a thoughtful approach to this legislation,” Obama said earlier this week.

What an awful, immature, petulant man-child.

25 posted on 10/23/2011 2:17:25 PM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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Biden’s Fourth-Grade Economics

Back in March, my National Review colleague Kevin Williamson pointed out that, in order to balance the budget of the United States, you would have to increase the taxes of people earning more than $250,000 a year by $500,000 a year.

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26 posted on 10/23/2011 3:34:08 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for these pings and all your others.


27 posted on 10/23/2011 3:50:59 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now, now. now!)
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To: neverdem

I like your new keyword, fwiw.


28 posted on 10/23/2011 7:38:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 10/23/2011 8:06:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: hocndoc
Thanks for these pings and all your others.

No sweat doc, you're welcome.

30 posted on 10/23/2011 10:15:26 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Franken was the biggest surprise of the bunch because he’s so far left, but maybe he has more millionaire/billionaire show biz friends than the others.


31 posted on 10/23/2011 10:38:16 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: nascarnation; spokeshave

Obama was in VA this past week on his bus tour. We hold our state legislature/local elections in 2+ weeks. Not ONE Dem in a contested election would be seen with him. Not ONE features him in their campaign lit. And, they had to set his appearances in only the very safest Dem districts, and drop others.

You’re right, nascarnation, he’s going to be one lonely boy next year on the 2012 campaign trail.


32 posted on 10/23/2011 10:47:05 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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