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Michele Bachmann: U.S. got "kicked out" of Iraq
CBS Face the nation ^ | Oct. 23, 2011 | Lucy Madison

Posted on 10/23/2011 1:46:56 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann on Sunday joined the chorus of GOP contenders lambasting President Obama for his decision to withdraw nearly all troops from Iraq by the end of the year. She contended that the United States had been "kicked out" of the country "by the very people we liberated," and that the decision was "more politically-based than military-based."

Bachmann, in an appearance on CBS' "Face the Nation," said it would be unwise to withdraw troops from the country while its political status remained tenuous, and argued that "if you look at every time we have deposed a dictator, the United States has always left troops behind to be able to enforce the fragile peace."

Host Bob Schieffer asked Bachmann, "Do you think, congresswoman, that the American people, with the budget situation the way it is, really want to keep a large contingent of American troops in iraq indefinitely?"

"Of course not. No one wants to do that," she replied, but said there should be a temporary transition."

"We're going from the point of leaving to leaving zero troops behind," Bachmann said. "Once we're finished in Iraq, we'll have more troops in Honduras than we'll be leaving behind in Iraq."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bachmann; failedforeignpolicy; iran; iraq
The point can be made better in some ways than Bachmann does it, but at least she is sounding the alarm. The problem is she doesn't know when to stop, once she has made her point.

However, I can't believe the U.S. will not even have a base in Iraq. It appears the ubama administration's foreign policy agenda is to undo the progress made by Bush-Cheney.

1 posted on 10/23/2011 1:47:07 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita
"The point can be made better in some ways than Bachmann does"

Amen to that. After hearing what she had to say to the NH House a couple weeks ago, I was convinced that she is not really that serious a candidate at this point. She mailed it in that day and quite poorly.

2 posted on 10/23/2011 1:53:28 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman. No more second terms!)
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To: La Enchiladita
I used to be very supportive of Michelle Bachmann but what she is saying just isn't true.

Politicizing Iraq…. again: GOP gets sucker punched by Obama/left media stolen thunder

As per the originAL SOFA agreement, negotiated between the Bush admin and Iraq at the end of 2008, and signed by Ryan Crocker US armed forces are to be totally withdrawn from Iraq by the end of the three year contract on Jan 1st, 2012.

(snip)

So what we have is a Bush withdrawal of troops, as negotiated.

Erkyl is taking credit for something he had nothing to do with.

3 posted on 10/23/2011 1:53:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I’d take our embassy with us to.


4 posted on 10/23/2011 1:56:24 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: La Enchiladita

Not to mention that Karzai said that Afghanistan would side with Pakistan, if Pakistan and the United States went to war ...


5 posted on 10/23/2011 1:56:37 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: La Enchiladita

“it would be unwise to withdraw troops from the country while its political status remained tenuous...”

The political status in that area has been tenuous for 2000 years and our trillion dollars and thousands of lives in eight years can only do so much.

It is now up to the Iraqis to use their vast oil wealth and the training and equipment we have provided to secure their own country.


6 posted on 10/23/2011 1:57:13 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: La Enchiladita
Host Bob Schieffer asked Bachmann, "Do you think, congresswoman, that the American people, with the budget situation the way it is, blah blah blah?"

Lets see this POS use this same line of questioning when the topic is Obamacare, illegal immigration or Obama's "job" bill.

With these leftist monkeys money is only a concern where national security is at issue.

7 posted on 10/23/2011 2:00:12 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: TigersEye

Yes, I remember that this was agreed upon in 2008, before Bush left office so the drawdown date is nothing new.

However, the remaining troop strength (advisory capacity) was open to negotiation and this was where Urkel & Co. failed. There are no statesmen in the bunch and this is full out retreat rather than an enhanced diplomatic relationship. We did a lot for that country and we can ask a lot. They didn’t do it.

I link this “failure” with the Ubama refusal to intervene in Iran puppet Syria unrest, the likely rise of Iran influence in Iraq and the Iran nuclear warheads aimed at Israel.

It’s not shaping up as a U.S.- or Israel-friendly picture. Our president is supposed to make other nations friendly toward us, not the opposite.


8 posted on 10/23/2011 2:04:14 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: skeeter

How many more trillions of our dollars should we spend in Iraq?

And what would you set as benchmarks for the current Iraq government to reach before we leave Iraq?


9 posted on 10/23/2011 2:07:20 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: Lmo56

Karzai’s another one ubama has pissed off, sending sKerry over there to lecture him and stand tall over him.


10 posted on 10/23/2011 2:07:52 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

She’s essentially correct. They don’t want us there and I think its a fear of what Obama will do next that has created the situation.

Hell, I don’t want us there either but Obama has us leaving both Iraq and Afghanistan on less than friendly terms.


11 posted on 10/23/2011 2:09:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: trumandogz
How many more trillions of our dollars should we spend in Iraq?

Not one penny.

And what would you set as benchmarks for the current Iraq government to reach before we leave Iraq?

The "you are going to pay us back for every penny we spent here plus interest plus money for the families of every soldier killed liberating you or we will replace you with a government that will" benchmark.

12 posted on 10/23/2011 2:13:45 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Damn Straight.


13 posted on 10/23/2011 2:16:55 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: cripplecreek

I hear you. This is a totally different U.S. team than they dealt with before. Bush had the diplomacy going; Hussein Ubama hasn’t. Alliances need cultivation. We don’t necessarily agree with allies on everything but acknowledge ways we need each other, a realistic “friendship.”

Among other things, Ubama’s making the world less safe for Americans.


14 posted on 10/23/2011 2:19:37 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

It seems like Obama his ignored the allies created under Bush while stirring radicalism on their borders.

I sure wouldn’t want to be an American ally at this point because Obama seems to go out of his way to insult them or worse.


15 posted on 10/23/2011 2:26:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: La Enchiladita
Obama was against the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and his decision to pull out all the U.S. forces by year's end is no surprise. Yes, he is adhering to the agreement we had with Iraq under the Bush administration but to remove all but a relative handful of troops is Obama's way of (a) satisfying his liberal base and, (b) satisfying the general electorate that is weary of the war in Iraq, or so he thinks. If Iraq descends into chaos Obama will reap the blame for 'losing' Iraq with a too-hasty near-100% troop withdrawal. If Iraq manages to remain stable, an iffy proposition, Obama will look good to both the left and the right.

In a sense, Obama is giving the Bush administration the proverbial finger but under the cover of simply agreeing to do what the Bush administration agreed to. Unless Iraq goes bad very quickly, which is hardly a remote possibility with Iran salivating over the opportunity to expand their Islamic empire and conquer Iraq, the troop withdrawal will help Obama. However, with the U.S. economy doing so poorly, mostly as a result of his and Democrat policies that are at the core of the original recession (think Dodd-Franks), simply following the path to U.S. troop withdrawal in Iraq laid down by the Bush administration will not save Obama's failed presidency. Again, should Iraq descend into war and chaos within the next year, Obama will be held accountable for his almost-complete U.S. troop withdrawal. It's a gamble that he is obviously willing to take.

Even if Obama 'wins' his Iraq gamble, it won't be enough. Nothing will. Americans are suffering economically and Obama does little but make speeches, point fingers at Republicans, propose a ridiculous 'jobs' bill that is really a tax bill and when even Democrats reject it, he whines. Not a leader and not re-electable, no matter what nonsense the MSM tries to sell us on Obama's re-election chances. No matter who the GOP nominates as Obama's opponent he will be a one-term president, and rightfully so.

16 posted on 10/23/2011 2:31:08 PM PDT by Jim Scott (on the 'Cain Train')
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17 posted on 10/23/2011 2:32:24 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I couldn’t agree with you more. It just urkels me that the press is helping 0bungles lie about being the one who is taking our troops out of Iraq. I wish our GOP pols wouldn’t help them further that BS.


18 posted on 10/23/2011 2:32:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
I wish our GOP pols wouldn’t help them further that BS.

Yep. One simple statement of fact would clear it up. Is that beyond them?!

19 posted on 10/23/2011 2:37:39 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

I wonder what kind of deal we really made? China gets the oil and we get more loans? the US dollar remains the official reserve currency? we get bent over and sodomized?


20 posted on 10/23/2011 2:44:21 PM PDT by RC one (Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
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To: La Enchiladita
o undo the progress made by Bush-Cheney.

Progress in terms of keeping troops longer? It was "Bush-Cheney" (to their credit) who gave us the Status of Forces Agreement which pledged that ALL troops would leave at the end of 2011. If anything Obama was trying to undermine this Agreement by trying to keep troops longer.

21 posted on 10/23/2011 2:50:15 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: La Enchiladita
o undo the progress made by Bush-Cheney.

Progress in terms of keeping troops longer? It was "Bush-Cheney" (to their credit) who gave us the Status of Forces Agreement which pledged that ALL troops would leave at the end of 2011. If anything Obama was trying to undermine this Agreement by trying to keep troops longer.

22 posted on 10/23/2011 2:50:28 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: La Enchiladita
They are such jellyfish. I feel like my hand is super glued to my forehead in a permanent face palm.

FIGHT THEM! REFUTE THEIR LIES!!! It's not that hard.

23 posted on 10/23/2011 2:52:08 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

O did the same thing with the post-surge draw-down and transfer of troops to Afghanistan. It was already planned before he took office. A Clintonian braggart on steroids.


24 posted on 10/23/2011 3:17:33 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: trumandogz
Why ask me?

My point was the nature of the question, coming from a marxist rat presstitute who otherwise probably climaxes at the thought of additional government spending.

25 posted on 10/23/2011 3:18:00 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: TigersEye

O did the same thing with the post-surge draw-down and transfer of troops to Afghanistan. It was already planned before he took office. A Clintonian braggart on steroids.


26 posted on 10/23/2011 3:31:28 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: La Enchiladita

Our troops won the war in Iraq years ago, and won it again about 2 years ago, and should have been home by now at least twice.

The politicians have played with our troops and their lives.

This was a congressionally authorized retaliation without a declaration of war. There was no need to stay past the overthrow of the Hussein regime and the search (and demise of?) for dangerous WMDs.


27 posted on 10/23/2011 3:35:44 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Lmo56

Sheesh, I don’t doubt that a bit.

Remember that among muslims, Islam is thicker than blood. We can give these muslims their freedom and a democtatic society on a silver platter, paid for with American blood, but we shall always remain a bunch of pagans in their eyes.

Perhaps we should kiss their butts more passionately so that they will loooooooove us.


28 posted on 10/23/2011 3:45:02 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Obama’s last best chance to lose Iraq!


29 posted on 10/23/2011 5:21:35 PM PDT by jacob allen
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To: La Enchiladita

She needs to go away, far away, and bake cookies in MN. She’s an idiot.


30 posted on 10/23/2011 7:20:14 PM PDT by conservativguy99
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To: La Enchiladita

Speaking of Bachmann...Finally found out why Mark Stein was so keen on Miss Bachmann, it was payback for her comments on Meet The Press in 2005 on his book.

Seems she had said great things about his book and he wanted to repay the favor, he was grateful to her, he mentioned this when he filled in for Rush last week.

I like Stein, crony capitalism :) ??


31 posted on 10/23/2011 8:18:02 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: skeeter

I thought I would ask you those questions as it appears you have an opinion on the Iraq pullout which diverges from former President Bush who scheduled our troops to leave Iraq before 2012.


32 posted on 10/23/2011 11:06:23 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: La Enchiladita
It appears the ubama administration's foreign policy agenda is to undo the progress made by Bush-Cheney.

Absolutely. With deniability, of course -- because Obozo, like FDR, is a congenital liar.

BTTT.

33 posted on 10/24/2011 12:42:48 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: RC one
the US dollar remains the official reserve currency?

Here in Houston we get -- no, really -- Chicom government news (their version of CNN, call it CNN without the middleman) on one of the HDTV over-the-air channels.

They ran a crawl item over the weekend to the effect that the Chinese are now negotiating the settlement of trade among ASEAN nations in Chinese renminbi/yuan, vice dollars. Think about that for a while.

But no, the Chinese are not backing off their campaign to displace the dollar from international trade.

34 posted on 10/24/2011 12:53:52 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: FlyVet

And yet, we still have troops in Kosovo. I guess it’s ok as long as it’s a democrat that sends troops. Sarcasm intended.


35 posted on 10/24/2011 2:45:42 AM PDT by mikefive
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To: trumandogz

I do have a different opinion from Bush’s scheduled pullout. I thought we should’ve been out of there about 6 or 7 years ago.


36 posted on 10/24/2011 6:39:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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