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Over-60 bedroom blockers 'should be taxed out of their homes' to encourage them to leave ...
Daily Mail ^ | 20th October 2011 | Steve Doughty

Posted on 10/23/2011 5:55:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah

25million empty bedrooms across the country at a time when many are struggling to bu

Older people should be taxed out of their family homes to free up space for younger generations, says a report backed by Labour.

It argues that 'empty nesters' in their 60s are taking up too much room and should be 'encouraged' by a new 'land tax' to downsize to smaller homes.

The call comes from the Intergenerational Foundation, a left-leaning think-tank that aims to 'promote fairness between generations'.

Labour MP Tessa Jowell sponsored the report's launch in a Commons hospitality room yesterday, saying the current situation ran against Ed Miliband's vision for Britain.

But the 'bedroom blocker' plan drew condemnation from Tory ministers and pressure groups for older people.

Tory housing minister Grant Shapps said: 'We do not agree that people should be taxed or bullied out of their homes.'

The Intergenerational Foundation says there are 25million unused bedrooms in the country and eight million ‘under-occupied’ homes. More than half of people aged over 65 live in homes with two or more spare bedrooms that could be used by young families, it adds.

The report, Hoarding of Housing, says: ‘While younger families are increasingly being squeezed into small flats and under-sized houses, older people are often rattling around in big houses with many bedrooms standing empty, often for years.’

Report co-author Matthew Griffiths said: ‘It is perfectly understandable that retired people cling to their home long after it has outlived its usefulness as a place to bring a family up in.

‘But there are profound social consequences of their actions which are now causing real problems in a country where new house building is almost non-existent.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: communism; eurabia; feminism; immigration; intergenerational; londonistan; progressivism; romanticism; socialism; ungland
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Just like in Travis McGee's books "Enemies Foreign and Domestic"!!!
1 posted on 10/23/2011 5:56:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Travis McGee
Here's the full title of the article, it was too long for FR:

Over-60 bedroom blockers 'should be taxed out of their homes' to encourage them to leave 'too large' family houses

2 posted on 10/23/2011 5:57:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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From the link, info about the “Intergenerational Foundation”:

The Intergenerational Foundation is a non-party political not-for-profit organisation with charitable objectives.

It has been established with the stated aim of ‘researching fairness between current and future generations in the UK’.

The IF believes policy-makers favour older generations at the expense of younger people, for example in terms of benefits, without looking at long-term cost.

‘The UK has a taxation regime skewed against young people, pension arrangements that are unfair, and growing environmental, healthcare and welfare liabilities that are being passed on to future generations,’ it says on its website.

‘We are both actively researching the causes of current intergenerational unfairness and offering possible solutions for a fairer future.’


3 posted on 10/23/2011 5:58:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

Envy is just another form of greed.


4 posted on 10/23/2011 6:00:26 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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I just read the comments to the article. Ha ha - they all hated it, and said so in no uncertain language.

Now the Daily Mail is not accepting any more comments. LOL!


5 posted on 10/23/2011 6:01:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

Right out of Dr. Zhivago.


6 posted on 10/23/2011 6:03:09 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: little jeremiah

My grandmother lives alone in her 5 bedroom house and she seems to like it just fine that way.


7 posted on 10/23/2011 6:03:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: little jeremiah

Disgusting. If any of these young families want to build up enough money to buy me out of my house, they are quite welcome to it.

Until then, piss off!

And git off my damn lawn!!!


8 posted on 10/23/2011 6:04:23 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Obama's new motto: Après moi le déluge)
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To: little jeremiah
actively researching the causes of current intergenerational unfairness

They need to research that?

Elderly taxed to death is what this is.

9 posted on 10/23/2011 6:04:34 PM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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10 posted on 10/23/2011 6:05:39 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: little jeremiah

Disgusting.


11 posted on 10/23/2011 6:06:20 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: little jeremiah

Those who flap their gums about ‘fairness’ would be anything but if they ever seized control.


12 posted on 10/23/2011 6:06:35 PM PDT by JPG (America is worth saving. All hands on deck!)
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To: little jeremiah

I guess the NHS isn’t killing off the older generation fast enough. They will have to redouble their efforts!


13 posted on 10/23/2011 6:06:55 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (Obama's new motto: Après moi le déluge)
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To: little jeremiah

Amazing what “leaders” can come up with- Crap- if they build some new housing for the younger, there will be employment and enough room for the young. Of course that would be akin to using common sense and that ain’t gonna happen.


14 posted on 10/23/2011 6:06:55 PM PDT by handmade
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To: little jeremiah

Death Panels.....


15 posted on 10/23/2011 6:07:05 PM PDT by Roux (Ignorance can be cured but stupid is forever.)
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To: little jeremiah

If anyone has a photo of an old guy flipping the bird, here’s a good spot for it.


16 posted on 10/23/2011 6:08:31 PM PDT by saint (God forgive us, we're killing babies made in His image.)
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To: little jeremiah

I find it interesting that none of them discuss moving in WITH the elders and fill up the empty bed rooms.


17 posted on 10/23/2011 6:08:31 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: little jeremiah; Travis McGee

Travis McGee is not only a great writer, he’s prophetic because he knows history and also keeps abreast of current events, much like Glenn Beck, and I mean this in a most complimentary manner.

GOOD on you, little jeremiah, for making such a wonderful mention of Travis McGee and his book, Enemies Foreign and Domestic.


18 posted on 10/23/2011 6:10:31 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: JPG

And who exactly decides what is intergenerational fairness? What are the criteria? Who decides that older people with no children or grown children don’t “need” a house? Supposed they worked hard and scrimped and saved to afford their house? Who the heck has the right to judge them in this manner?

I know the answer is that liberals want to be the ones to decide what’s fair, and the criteria are an ever shifting hodge podge of demands and complaints about the way society is structured. To me, that’s extremely unfair and presumptuous of liberals to be making such judgements about other people.

The liberals who lecture us about tolerance and civility and respect for people and all of that, have a strong totalitarian streak in them, when discussing issues of “fairness” and “equality”.


19 posted on 10/23/2011 6:11:17 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: little jeremiah

To a liberal, taxes are the final solution to every problem, including imaginary ones.


20 posted on 10/23/2011 6:12:04 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: little jeremiah
I got this picture in my head, of Jim Bowie on a cot in the Alamo, as Santa Anna's men burst through, n' he shoots a few of 'em dead before dying in a hand to hand while on the cot ...

Come n' GET me, coppers !

21 posted on 10/23/2011 6:13:32 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"The liberals who lecture us about tolerance and civility and respect for people and all of that, have a strong totalitarian streak in them, when discussing issues of “fairness” and “equality”."

Absolutely.

22 posted on 10/23/2011 6:14:28 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: onyx

I resisted getting “Enemies Foreign and Domestic” for a long time because I’m just not a fiction writer. Finally I got them “for hub” and he did practically NOTHING for about a week except read each book cover to cover, oftne reading out loud to me! I HIGHLY recommend them. They’re prophetic.

http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/

http://www.amazon.com/Enemies-Foreign-Domestic-Matthew-Bracken/dp/0972831010

I got them from his own site so he’d get all the money.

;-)

We bought a set for our County Sheriff’s office to read, too.


23 posted on 10/23/2011 6:15:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Roux

First kick them out of their houses, then take their “unnecessary” possessions and “extra” money, and then - Soylent Green!!!


24 posted on 10/23/2011 6:17:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

Sounds like a large number of these Labour leftists need to be lined up against the wall and shot by patriotic Brits ... Oh, silly me, the British government seized all private weapons years ago.


25 posted on 10/23/2011 6:23:54 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Zerobama's bus tour: the Blunder Bus Tour)
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To: little jeremiah

“Keep your laws out of my bedroom!!! - Put my laws on those old peoples bedrooms!!!”


26 posted on 10/23/2011 6:24:59 PM PDT by posterchild (I'm old enough to remember when journalists bothered to look things up on wikipedia.)
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To: ladyvet
Right out of Dr. Zhivago.

Bingo.
27 posted on 10/23/2011 6:25:44 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: little jeremiah

Instead of taxing and forcing them to sell at your price, why not try offering more money until they like the price you are offering.


28 posted on 10/23/2011 6:26:06 PM PDT by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a Bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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To: little jeremiah

Today the old are taking up too much space. Tomorrow they will be taking up too much oxygen.


29 posted on 10/23/2011 6:26:38 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: little jeremiah

So basically what i am reading is that the british Government is thinking of stealing the the homes from their elderly and giving them to young muzzie families on welfare?


30 posted on 10/23/2011 6:29:29 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: onyx

Thanks, although I wish these themes were still considered far-fetched fantasy.


31 posted on 10/23/2011 6:33:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: onyx

Thanks, although I wish these themes were still considered far-fetched fantasy.


32 posted on 10/23/2011 6:33:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: little jeremiah

Almost sounds like an OWS demand, but the Brits always get there first with immoral laws.


33 posted on 10/23/2011 6:37:05 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: little jeremiah

We are only renting our houses from the school/unions anyway. How long until they begin telling us how to better utilize space in America?


34 posted on 10/23/2011 6:38:15 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: little jeremiah
The UK has ALSO had a real estate bubble and crash. This will help maintain housing prices --- HOW????

Are these people nuts?


35 posted on 10/23/2011 6:38:39 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Interesting how the vices all the religions have always warned about - lust, greed, envy, anger, sloth, etc - are all now the mandatory cultural standards!


36 posted on 10/23/2011 6:42:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: SampleMan

“Today the old are taking up too much space. Tomorrow they will be taking up too much oxygen.”

Yeah. And they eat too much and produce too much carbon too.

It never ceases to amaze me what an irritating lot of fascists call themselves liberals these days.


37 posted on 10/23/2011 6:44:54 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: little jeremiah

Coming soon to America, long as Democrats and their enablers have any say-so.


38 posted on 10/23/2011 6:52:26 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Go Steelers (what's the baseball team called again?))
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To: SampleMan
Today the old are taking up too much space. Tomorrow they will be taking up too much oxygen.

Don't worry, they'll have an oxygen tax before too long, and the only way some will be able to afford will be to turn in the old people to the death panels.

I have visions of Logan's Run running through my head, to make it fair for everyone and to have room, you get to die at 30.

Society doomed the last several generations, in their effort to be "fair", they forgot to teach that sometimes to get what you want in life you have to work hard for it, be an achiever, now all they teach is how to be a victim, and expect everything handed to them.

39 posted on 10/23/2011 6:53:22 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: little jeremiah
If we just round up the Marxists and communists and kill them there will be plenty of room for young families in housing.
40 posted on 10/23/2011 6:53:59 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: 43north
Heaven help us!

We are not far from Logan's Run

41 posted on 10/23/2011 6:56:10 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I was alone in a 6 bedroom house for 7 years.

Finally smartened up and downsized but,and it’s a big but,it was my decision.


42 posted on 10/23/2011 6:57:09 PM PDT by Mears (I can't take anymore of this.)
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To: little jeremiah

Nanny, nanny, nanny state?

These oldsters may want the rooms for many reasons. Family, a future home caretaker, or rent out to some student for extra cash.


43 posted on 10/23/2011 7:00:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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The Crown could quarter troops in them.


44 posted on 10/23/2011 7:03:33 PM PDT by ChuteTheMall (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: little jeremiah

Such things can be said in UK cause the citizens are not armed...


45 posted on 10/23/2011 7:04:37 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: little jeremiah

soylent green after organ harvesting...


46 posted on 10/23/2011 7:06:56 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: mowowie

Idiot idea, but nowhere is Islam mentioned.This FR obsession with getting the Muzzies in everywhere gets farcical at times.

Do you think all British Muslims are unemployed or that all young unemployed British are Muslim?.


47 posted on 10/23/2011 7:10:26 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: RightWingConspirator

Oh, silly you, they didnt.
As has been explained here many times.


48 posted on 10/23/2011 7:11:56 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: goat granny

a—not true. Rifles and shotguns are legal. Handguns and assault rifles are not. .22 air rifles and pistols are legal.

b—the British public was never a gunowning populace. The highest amount of legal handguns, rifles, shotguns was 1.5m in 1996. Given that like myself owners owned multiple guns, the amount of Brits who owned a gun would have been half a million, maybe slightly more, maybe less.

Your average Brit is more likely to own a collection of knives and samurai swords.


49 posted on 10/23/2011 7:17:04 PM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s a silly argument, because if you REALLY want to make the old people shut up and go sit down because their turn is over and it’s onky fair to let the younger people play, you have to take away the right to vote. Old people stuff the ballot boxes and get all kinds of things past that arnt fair to younr people.


50 posted on 10/23/2011 7:19:39 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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