Posted on 10/23/2011 5:59:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
I think the image is manipulated by Obama to keep the issue alive. But that doesn’t mean it is forged. Although it sure would not surprise me. I bet Obama is laying a trap, and the best way to handle it is to cover all possibilities which are:
1. Obama is a incompetent forger.
2. Obama did it on purpose and is politically very slimy.
3. Obama is too stupid to put up a flattened image even though there is a big controversy going on.
Sooo, all of those suck for a president to be. Which is why I always ask how do you expect Obama to fix a $14 trillion economy when it takes him 3 years to cough up a $14 document, and then screws that up.
His parents had permenant resident status IIRC. That would put them under US jurisdiction.
Wasn’t even mentioned at National Review- I guess he dropped his subscription.
And oddly, Bobby ran as a reformer, and reformers don’t usually serve more than one term in LA.
It got traced back to multiple typewriters on the same word. That’s too blatant to ignore.
Only here my FRiend, only here.
Not my fav GOP'er but way better than most. Because of that the MSN won't cover the election.
Excellent news.
Any hard time they give Jindal would have to come back to bite Obama.
Vattel claimed, "The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."
However, the very first congress, in its first full year, passed the "Naturalization Act of 1790" which said children born to two citizen parents and not born in the country were considered "natural born citizens." That phrase.
The act was repealed in later years but that's not the point.
One, it shows the founders were not strictly limited by Vattel's view. Two, it shows McCain, George Romney and others that birther's decry would've clearly been considered "natural born citizens" buy our founders. Third, the Vattel argument is self-defeating since he says "natural-born citizens" is the same as "native." Fourth, it suggests "natural born citizens" ("natives") means what the Congress says it does.
If any Supreme Court would review this issue, I believe it would find zero distinction between what we call "native born" and what is phrased "natural born" in the Constitution which is just as Vattel did.
Thus, using current law and precedent, the court would only exclude as POTUS or VP candidates those naturalized, those never citizens and, presumably, those who formally renounced U.S. citizenship.
Well that sure explains the tampering to SCOTUS cases to remove Minor from the possibility of discovery by millions of people who will search the internet and never step inside a law library. Yeah. Why go to that length for something so inconsequential..... yeah. Not buying it at all. Just saying.... someone else DID think it important enough to do. Don’t you want to know who? Its a big deal. The truth matters. History matters. Someone tried to erase it. That doesn’t concern you?? Really?
Thank you , Mr. Chief Justice. I think this is straining at a gnat. It is certainly a stretch to say that his parents were mere sojourners. But, all in all, your opinion and mine are both private and of no public force.
Bobby Bump- My governor won in a landslide!
>> Birthers love Vattel but Vattel is clearly not a limiting factor on what the founder’s believed. <<
Oh, shucks! Now you’ve ruined my day!
Rush brought out the fact that Gov. Jindal is a fiscal and SOCIAL conservative but still won!
Let that be a lesson for other social conservative cndidates, who want to water down their positions.
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