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Steve Forbes Endorses Rick Perry for President (4:21 minute video)
YouTube Video ^ | October 23, 2011 | Video Fox

Posted on 10/23/2011 7:22:15 PM PDT by casinva

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To: silverleaf
Was the Texas tuition bill imposed by executive order?

No..It was passed by the legislature overwhelmingly.

161 posted on 10/24/2011 4:19:29 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: DrewsMum
If you do not put that in context..It is VERY misleading. "President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it.

An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity.

It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity.

Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues."

162 posted on 10/24/2011 4:36:09 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: DrewsMum

Sound Byte much?

“President Fox’s vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it. An open border means poverty has given way to opportunity, and Mexico’s citizens do not feel compelled to cross the border to find that opportunity. It means we have addressed pollution concerns, made substantial progress in stopping the spread of disease, and rid our crossings of illicit drug smuggling activity. Clearly we have a long way to go in addressing those issues. At the same time we must continue to deepen our economic ties, expanding opportunities for Mexican and U.S. companies to do business on both sides of the border. The outlook is promising, even if the road to prosperity is a long one. We share a bond as neighbors, and we find our culture north of the Rio Grande to be increasingly defined by the strong traits of people of Hispanic descent. Texas has long enjoyed a unique identity, an identity forged by an independent spirit, and the convergence of many different peoples. We must welcome change in the 21st Century as we have in every century before it.”


163 posted on 10/24/2011 4:45:59 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: MEG33

Thank you. I rest my case

and the Texas State law was passed 10 years ago
If Texans didn’t want it, they’ve had 10 years to challenge it

So all the dire predictions about a flood of immigrants rushing to Texas - to get in-state tuition - has been proven not true.

Total costs to Texas AND institutions providing in-state college tuition funding - about $40 million 2004-2008

Total costs of welfare over the same period to illegal immigrants in puiblic schools- not attending college? unk

Total immigrant students college-educated at state tuition rates 2004-2008 @ 12,000, 1% of all Texas college students

Total new college-educated employed taxpayers who have returned the investment by taxes paid - unk
source:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/headlines/20100314-Number-of-illegal-immigrants-getting-in-9925.ece

Why am I saying all this?
The PERRY CAMPAIGN needed to get ahead of this.


164 posted on 10/24/2011 5:27:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: hellbender; DrewsMum

Yes, I understand as taxpayers we support our universities, my comment was intended to point out they do not get a free ride, but I suspect you knew that. Until the Feds step in these people are here to stay. Do you enjoy subsidizing them for life or would it be better to turn them into taxpayers and make them part of the system? You do understand we already subsidize their primary and secondary education? That is the free ride. Go ahead and irrationally blame Perry for what began long before he arrived on the scene though.


165 posted on 10/24/2011 5:40:35 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: casinva

Thank you for your post. I watched Steve Forbes on Fox yesterday morning and he spoke broadly of Perry’s tax plan. He indicated it has been tweaked considerably since Forbes came out with his plan and in his opinion is much fairer and simpler than Cain’s 999 proposal.


166 posted on 10/24/2011 5:46:53 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: McLynnan

How can we turn them into taxpayers if they ILLEGAL and not even eligible to work in the U.S.?? We are educating them to take their skills elsewhere.


167 posted on 10/24/2011 6:47:18 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: wolfcreek

What about that whole quote says he’s NOT open borders??? Had the whole quote set the record straight and confirmed he was NOT OPEN BORDERS, then I could see having a hissy fit that the whole thing wasn’t quoted.

So would you agree that Perry is open borders if the conditions were “right”?


168 posted on 10/24/2011 6:53:17 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Vigilanteman
But fiscal responsibility ends when they want to throw open the borders ....

You need to kick the source of your info! You are grossly misinformed!

169 posted on 10/24/2011 7:27:02 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Artcore

My guess is you’re voting Romney.


170 posted on 10/24/2011 7:31:16 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: DrewsMum

Open borders like with Canada..Of course Mexico would have to reinvent itself for that to happen.

Do you not understand he said IF Mexico had an economy where Mexicans would not want to come here to stay..because jobs were available in Mexico...
When drug runners are not coming across..
When disease in Mexico is under control.

He has begged the feds for more help to secure the borders..He wants the border secured..

But you knew all this.


171 posted on 10/24/2011 9:05:10 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: MEG33
He has begged the feds for more help to secure the borders..He wants the border secured..

And yet, Perry sure does enjoy cozying up to the illegals in the state to gain favor with their American cousins. Will the real Rick Perry ever stand up, aside from waving his hispandering wet finger in the wind?

Maybe he can publish another book about his reasons for supporting illegals. He still has a couple of months to grow hearts in us mean and nasty conservatives.

172 posted on 10/24/2011 9:22:02 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: TADSLOS

You have one opinion..I have another.


173 posted on 10/24/2011 9:26:23 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: MEG33

Facts are facts. Perry is an illegal coddler to the point that he doesn’t mind spending millions in taxpayer dollars to provide them a college education at the expense of deserving U.S. Citizens needing the same financial aid. That doesn’t square with your opinion.


174 posted on 10/24/2011 9:37:30 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: Vigilanteman
.... Their views on open borders are as naive and dangerous as Ron Paul's views on national security.

I agree.

175 posted on 10/24/2011 10:13:48 AM PDT by Ron H. (Conservatives have the Tea Party. The Liberals have the Pee Party.)
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To: DrewsMum

That is an absolute contradiction. Do you see any of them trying to leave? Their families are here. In their minds they “belong” here. To pay in state tuition they must be in the process of rectifying their illegal status so they most definitely will one day be legal taxpayers. Since there is no indication the federal government is going to do a mass deportation, I would personally rather have them support the system from within than spawn another generation of baby creating maids and lawn workers for us to support.


176 posted on 10/24/2011 10:31:00 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: South40

Well, as I said, I’m not particularly impressed by endorsements. Steve Forbes is an exception, as is perhaps Sarah Palin’s endorsement of Rick Perry. Endorsements though, are a dime a dozen during election cycles, and I doubt more than a rare few ever influence the decisions of voters. In a general sense, that renders endorsements unimpressive in my book.


177 posted on 10/24/2011 10:34:50 AM PDT by smoothsailing ( (FUBO-FUMR!))
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To: smoothsailing
Sarah Palin endorsed Perry for reelection as governor of TX. She also endorsed Juan McCain. I have my opinion of that but I'll save it. You can make of it what you will.

I wouldn't say I am impressed by any endorsement but I do find some interesting; like the Whoraldo Rivera endorsement of Rick Perry. That speaks volumes to me. I would like to know what Perry thinks of it. What do you, A Perry supporter think?

178 posted on 10/24/2011 10:43:28 AM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: fightinJAG

Well, the interesting thing about Cain is that he portrays himself as a Washington outsider. I like Cain, but it’s pretty clear from the record that Cain has had an inside track in DC going back to at least the mid-90’s. The article I linked to goes in to detail, the Forbes connection is just one example.


179 posted on 10/24/2011 10:46:05 AM PDT by smoothsailing ( (FUBO-FUMR!))
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