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To: microgood
Sorry, I am not on the Supreme Court.

Thank God you are not on the Supreme Court or we just might get worse decisions than what we already have. Although I find it tough to imagine anyone dumber then Kagan and Sotomayer (who isn't intellectually fit to be a traffic court judge).

And you haven't answered my question as to whether any society can survive so many stupid, idiotic, and moronic decisions. Whether the Constitution is that bad or the interpretations are that bad, when horrible decisions are made there are severe consequences and ramifications. Societies cannot survive infinite stupidity and that what we have in the cases of Voter ID and Drug Testing for Welfare recipients. And what about those who are footing the bill, don't they have some rights? The US Legal System is gonna destroy the Republic unless we can find a way to return it to sanity.
48 posted on 10/24/2011 4:07:50 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: truthguy
Thank God you are not on the Supreme Court or we just might get worse decisions than what we already have. Although I find it tough to imagine anyone dumber then Kagan and Sotomayer (who isn't intellectually fit to be a traffic court judge).

I do not know what it is about FR, but it seems when you try to explain the current state of the law, many act like I endorse the current state of the law. Shoot the messenger seems to be the norm on FR.

And you haven't answered my question as to whether any society can survive so many stupid, idiotic, and moronic decisions.

The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution was written over 230 years ago. If you want to call our Founding Fathers stupid, idiotic, and moronic, go ahead. The bottom line is that drug testing without probable cause to believe you have committed a crime is unconstitutional. Noone on the Supreme Court disputes that including Scalia, Thomas, Alito, or Roberts. What they have done in certain cases is allow exceptions to that (sobriety checkpoints, etc). This is not one of those cases.

My preference is to eliminate the welfare, not trash the Constitution. Quite a few people have died defending that "piece of paper".

On the other hand, there is no constitutional authority for welfare. It is completely unconstitutional and should be ended.

In addition, I think drug testing, like sobriety checkpoints, are ineffective. The only drug they can really test over a period of time is marijuana. The other water soluble drugs like heroin, cocaine, etc do not stay in your system long. In addition, at least in this case, it looks like it costs more to do the drug testing than you save in not funding those that tested positive anyway so you are not saving any money either (see Post #44).

But I will make no apologies for defending the Constitution. Many people feel that allowing citizens to own guns (2nd Amendment) is stupid, idiotic and moronic and I will defend the 2nd Amendment against them as well. We have an obligation to pass on our freedoms to future generations, and our generation in particular has done a horrible job with that.
52 posted on 10/24/2011 4:49:12 PM PDT by microgood
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To: truthguy
Do you think the Constitution delegates power to fedgov to impose national drug prohibition and fight a WOD? Or, do you think that power is properly reserved to the states?
55 posted on 10/24/2011 5:17:44 PM PDT by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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