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Federal judge blocks Florida’s new law requiring that welfare applicants pass drug test
The Washington Post ^ | 10/24/2011 | AP

Posted on 10/24/2011 3:17:23 PM PDT by Carbonsteel

ORLANDO, Fla. — A federal judge temporarily blocked Florida’s new law that requires welfare applicants to pass a drug test before receiving the benefits on Monday, saying it may violate the Constitution’s ban on unreasonable searches and seizures.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43appointee; welfare; wod; wodlist
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To: BfloGuy

You would not believe the number of people who sell their food stamps at 50 cents to a dollar to subsidized their alcohol and drug habits. Sell their prescription drugs to purchase stronger drugs. And finally due to recent events, collect welfare while joining the Occupy crowd to get free food and shelter (tents are better than what they had).


21 posted on 10/24/2011 3:37:46 PM PDT by BushCountry (Make Love Not Kinetic Military Action)
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To: The Theophilus

Federal judges have also acknowledged the freedom of the IRS to seize property without judicial hearings (i.e. due process). Federal judges also allow the EPA to restrict the use of private property and assess fines on activities involving private use of private property.


22 posted on 10/24/2011 3:39:18 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Carbonsteel
Newt had some good ideas about reigning in these renegade, anti American judges who are ruling from the bench. Much like zero is doing by passing everything by executive order and by passing congress purposely
23 posted on 10/24/2011 3:42:00 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: BushCountry
You would not believe the number of people who sell their food stamps at 50 cents to a dollar to subsidized their alcohol and drug habits.

I would. I have friends and family who have been on some form of government assistance at various times, so I tell you this first hand. They don't have money to pay their electric bill or truck payment, but they have money for smokes, pot, and tats. But we can't drug test them?

24 posted on 10/24/2011 3:43:36 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: BushCountry
You would not believe the number of people who sell their food stamps at 50 cents to a dollar to subsidized their alcohol and drug habits.

I would. I have friends and family who have been on some form of government assistance at various times, so I tell you this first hand. They don't have money to pay their electric bill or truck payment, but they have money for smokes, pot, and tats. But we can't drug test them?

25 posted on 10/24/2011 3:44:16 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: BushCountry

And meanwhile disabled folks continue to find work and stay OFF welfare.

C’mon you bums. Look me in the eye, and tell me why I’m paying for your benefits.


26 posted on 10/24/2011 3:44:46 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BfloGuy

I am subject to a possible drug test every day I show up to earn those tax dollars confiscated from my paycheck as a nurse. No one is forcing them to accept welfare.


27 posted on 10/24/2011 3:44:49 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: Scotsman will be Free; All

Good. Now start a lawsuit to see the Constitutionally of welfare - cause it is not.


28 posted on 10/24/2011 3:53:26 PM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: myprecious

The obamacare mandate is illegal search and seizure.

Don’t violate my 4th Amendment Rights .

I will not provide my health insurance company to the federal govt.
I will not provide my personal ID # to the federal government.

Warning to the feds: I am going to sue on January 1, 2014. On the basis
of 4th Amendment and** 5th Amendment Takings Clause without
due process.

Violate my constitutional rights and you will pay.


29 posted on 10/24/2011 3:54:28 PM PDT by preamble
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To: Carbonsteel

Welfare IS NOT a right - either you apply for it, or you don’t ...

If you apply for it - you must pass its requirements for eligibility ...

If drug tests are part of the requirement then - take a cup ...


30 posted on 10/24/2011 3:57:09 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Carbonsteel

Mary Stenson Scriven - “Aftican-American” 2008 Bush appointee..


31 posted on 10/24/2011 4:02:15 PM PDT by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: mgstarr
"Would you consider this similar to DUI checkpoints in being forced to submit to a test where no probable cause exists?"

Good example. According to the courts, driving (and flying) are an option and travelers have other choices if they do not want to submit to testing.

Meaning this federal judge is wrong. Welfare is an option and the government may set income level, family size and other requirements in order for citizens to receive it.

32 posted on 10/24/2011 4:03:29 PM PDT by misterwhite
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To: Carbonsteel
Looks like the illegal drug industry (and it is huge) has finally learned how to splash around some $$$ in the right places.


33 posted on 10/24/2011 4:06:38 PM PDT by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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To: Carbonsteel

I just want to laugh.

Stupid country is stupid, and it proably just ought to be tossed in the ****can already,


34 posted on 10/24/2011 4:06:48 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Carbonsteel

The refuse the federal welfare dollars.


35 posted on 10/24/2011 4:09:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: misterwhite

So if someone is receiving medical care from the state (Medicare, Medicaid, VA etc.), the government is able to blood test them for say, cholesterol, and require them to change their diet or take certain meds in order to continue to receive care?

Just wondering if there are any limits on what’s reasonable in what they can require you to submit to.


36 posted on 10/24/2011 4:15:55 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: Carbonsteel

It is pretty crazy when it is ok to drug test employees but it not ok to drug test welfare queens.


37 posted on 10/24/2011 4:22:13 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: BfloGuy
"We must work to reduce welfare in this country"

Don't worry. That problem will take care of itself real soon...

38 posted on 10/24/2011 4:22:14 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: The Theophilus
It's the New Deal Commerce Clause what trashes the Tenth Amendment. The same one that fedgov uses to fight the WOD.

They're a package deal.

39 posted on 10/24/2011 4:24:51 PM PDT by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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To: mgstarr
"in order to continue to receive care?"

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) of 1986 states that medical care cannot be withheld for any reason. Just in case you were "wondering".

The federal government could choose not to reimburse the hospital for treating any patient with high cholesterol, but the hospital would still have to treat them. I'd like to see what happens to the legislator who proposes such a law.

40 posted on 10/24/2011 4:27:41 PM PDT by misterwhite
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