Posted on 10/24/2011 3:17:23 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
ORLANDO, Fla. — A federal judge temporarily blocked Florida’s new law that requires welfare applicants to pass a drug test before receiving the benefits on Monday, saying it may violate the Constitution’s ban on unreasonable searches and seizures.
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CA Prop 187, while other states stood gawking, until they too have been overrun.
So are there any limits IYHO on what’s reasonable in what the Feds can require you to submit to if you receive a state benefit?
I wish Florida had just said that they will withhold disbursing welfare benefits until the injunction is lifted.
Then give anyone who wants it a bus ticket to Washington D.C.
I once attended a meeting at a drug testing facility who tested for various companies.
I asked the corporate drone who held the meeting and worked for the testing facility if their own employees who conducted the tests, were also randomly drug tested. He stated: "No, our people are not in a position to hurt anyone like a truck driver or machinist". I reminded this guy, his employees had peoples lives, reputations and careers in their hands, and he started doing the big chicken.
The entire meeting melted down after that...
Funny how the lowly Home Depot employee is randomly drug tested, yet cops, judges, congress, teachers, city councils, mayors, and those in federal/government agencies are not randomly tested.
If a Constitutional convention is called then everything, including the 2nd amendment, is on the table for change or elimination. I’d rather a single amendment be added to change the current cluster that the black robed, usurping swine are causing. I could see a bunch of RINOs and dems getting together to eliminate the 2nd amendment in order to “compromise” on some other nonevent.
Yes, and in good “progressive” fashion, it should be thusly parsed:
“unlawful search AND seizure” not “unlawful search AND/OR seizure”. If the unlawful search begets the seizure, it is unconstitutional. If the seizure is not propmpted from an unlawful search, everything is okay-dokey.
It is a difference with scant distinction...
“A federal judge temporarily blocked Florida’s new law...”
The Feds need to keep their worthless noses out of State business.
If the welfare leeches want benefits they need to unzip and grab a cup.
Yes people. it’s come to this.
As others have said CW 2 is coming. It’ll be short. We will win.
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You’ll win, but China/Russia/NK/Cuba/Arabs/Venezuela can gang up on us, and wipe us out during the time it takes to transition from the Obama/Commie regime to whoever takes up arms.
CW2 is a bad idea.
Sure there are limits. But don't you think drug testing to receive welfare is reasonable?
I mean, the private sector does drug testing all the time. They also do criminal background checks on potential employees. They also track employees on GPS, monitor their telephone and Internet usage, and hold them responsible for behavior off the job.
I think if the government is going to give thousands of dollars to someone, it's not out of line to ask them to pee in a cup to keep the money away from drug users.
“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” - SAMUEL ADAMS
so if it’s the last resort we should just sign up with China/Russia and the such?
Make their lives miserable? You gotta be joking!
Using welfare to fund drug habits is not my idea of something that should NOT be addressed IMMEDIATELY.
Yes; once we get the users/parasites off the Public Dole, they can recognize that WORKING is a way of EARNING income. Continuing to fund crack habits and 4th Genration Welfare as a way-of-life has NOT WORKED....time to cut the umbilical cord, and let the parasites find a LEGAL way to survive....it's "Tough Love" that needs to be laid down.
Bush’s fault! He appointed this dingbat.
“If a Constitutional convention is called then everything, including the 2nd amendment, is on the table for change or elimination. I’d rather a single amendment be added to change the current cluster that the black robed, usurping swine are causing. I could see a bunch of RINOs and dems getting together to eliminate the 2nd amendment in order to “compromise” on some other nonevent.”
True about everything being on the table. However, without a Convention, the Congress must pass any proposed Amendment by a 2/3 majority in both houses. There is no way the Republican RINO establishment and Democrat elites are going to allow an amendment to pass Congress limiting the power of the federal government.
Perhaps a wide open convention is our last hope because the existing institutions are unable to reform themselves. The people will either take notice and demand the Convention do the right thing or they won’t. If the people, or the states, won’t demand the necessary “clarifications” to the Constitution to protect us from the federal judiciary and executive, we are lost anyway.
so if it’s the last resort we should just sign up with China/Russia and the such?
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No. Pray for a Christian revival, and turn from your sins whole heartedly. It’s the only way out.
You’ll win, but China/Russia/NK/Cuba/Arabs/Venezuela can gang up on us, and wipe us out during the time it takes to transition from the Obama/Commie regime to whoever takes up arms.
CW2 is a bad idea.
“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” - SAMUEL ADAMS
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I still have not heard a remotely good case for why rebellion/CW2 would not invite an invasion from China/Russia/cuba/Venezuela/etc, resulting in the destruction of the USA.
They’d be fools not to invade. they’re not fools.
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