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Why Herman Cain Has The Potential To...Win
forbes ^ | 10/24/11 | Richard Miniter

Posted on 10/24/2011 5:25:56 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009

Forget the eye-rolling. Let’s look at the numbers. Herman Cain is ahead of Romney in virtually all of the polls conducted in the past two weeks. In both Iowa and nation-wide Cain leads Romney by 30% to 22%,according to Public Policy Polling, a respected pollster. Meanwhile the latest NBC-Marist poll puts Cain ahead of Romney in South Carolina by 30%-26%, and shows Cain and Romney neck-and-neck in Florida. Cain leads in Ohio by 15%, and in Hawaii by 12%. Only in New Hampshire does Romney stubbornly hold a solid double-digit lead (15%).

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; hermancain; poll; win
nice article
1 posted on 10/24/2011 5:26:00 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Go Herman!! Ignore the elites. The base has your back!


2 posted on 10/24/2011 5:30:25 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Funny because Stave Forbes was a key player in Perry's flat tax proposal.

Cain's got to drop the sale tax part of his 999 plan until he first calls for a repeal of the 16th Amendment. He needs to make some adjustments here, and he's got be better able to explain his positions simply and clearly. Same with Perry. All this stumbling and bumbling is helping the Romneys and Obamas of the world.

3 posted on 10/24/2011 5:31:12 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I won’t support any new type of tax until the old tax is gone, won’t even conisder it, but that doesn’t mean I won’t vote for Herman, because I certainly will.


4 posted on 10/24/2011 5:33:21 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I’ve already decided. I’m not voting for Romney and I’m not voting for Perry — neither in the primary or the general election. Neither of them are conservatives.

If the GOP belittles Cain out of the election I will be a no show at the polls.

They better get behind populism rather then try and lead it by the nose on this one.


5 posted on 10/24/2011 5:33:56 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: TexasFreeper2009
It is a good article TF; thanks for posting.

Still, Romney seems to hit a ceiling of roughly 25% in nearly every poll of Republican voters.

Another poster said Romney has 25% and that was a good head start. I responded that it wasn't a head start, it was a ceiling. And it is. Romney has averaged 25% for the past 5 years. His high in the 2008 election was 24.6% and he's at about that now.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 5:41:05 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: Usagi_yo
The GOP still belittles, The TEA folk, and Conservatives, and many have yet to understand the populism of either and still believe they are in charge.
They scold our Elected Representatives.

Big changes are on the horizon, for the better. Best days are yet in front of us.

7 posted on 10/24/2011 5:48:04 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I want Cain!

I know he’s not perfect....I STILL want him...warts and all.

The best thing he has going for him right now is he’s not Mitt Romney.


8 posted on 10/24/2011 5:57:33 PM PDT by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Started out supporting Sarah and still do. After some time wandering in the wilderness I am starting to lean towards Newt. Cain would not be a bad choice.


9 posted on 10/24/2011 5:58:47 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer
He's a professional Debater/Politician. He is good at preaching to the choir, but no better than Mitt Romney, IMHO.

He lost me when he supported Global Warming and ridiculed the Ryan Plan.

He lost his MoJo for me. He and the wife just don't inspire me at all!

11 posted on 10/24/2011 6:07:12 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I agree and studying the brilliant posts of Free Republic were obviously his sources as everything he wrote I already read here first.

What gets me though is how former slave/Jim Crow state South Carolina is going to put a true black American in the White House yet still must submit to a racist Department of Justice through the anachronistic,subjective and unjust requirements of the Voting Rights Act.
We may not have November congressional elections in 2012 because our constitutionally required redistricting has to be “approved” by the Obama “Civil Rights” bigots first.
And they ain't in no hurry. Now if we had let our liberals draw the districts the DOJ would have rubber stamped the plans before the ink dried.

12 posted on 10/24/2011 6:10:48 PM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: chris37

I agree with you. That’s the problem I have with 999.

The government never, never restrains itself when it comes to money. You do 999...then day the GOP doesnt control the government is the day the Democrats jack the sales tax up and put through more socialist junk.

It just opens the door to future tax hikes.


13 posted on 10/24/2011 6:10:59 PM PDT by floridarunner01
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Piss on Romney and ALL his sycophants


14 posted on 10/24/2011 6:15:10 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: PapaNew
Those who say that Cain's plan is impossible to pass almost always propose things that are more unlikely, like repealing the 16th Amendment. People are going to have to give up their hobby horses. No one, absolutely no one, has a solution to our present mess. The best we can hope for is to elect someone who wants to clean it up. I don't think that Romney does. I think the people who run this country and who back him/Obama have spent too much time and money creating privileges to permit substantive changes.

In a way they are right, because there are many good elements in our system, and we risk them if we resort to change unless we have to. I think we still need to wait to see what is over the next hill.But what we do need is to choose someone who is not afraid of what lies on the other side. I am thinking of someone like Grant.

On the first day of Shiloh, his troops took a mauling, much of it owning to Grant's mistakes. Sherman-- a very excitable general--played a big role in saving the day. Met Grant on the battlefield and said something like, we took a beating today. To which Grant calmly replies, Yes, but we'll whip 'em tomorrow. And he did. Grant was a rock. We need such a man in the coming crisis. Pray God we find him!

15 posted on 10/24/2011 6:15:49 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Fee
skeletons in the closet Perry (sex, drugs, gay lovers

Have you ever seen lies like that on this board about Cain? Comparing Patton to Cain is just idol-worship of a 12 year old. Try to find some class somewhere.

16 posted on 10/24/2011 6:22:45 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: floridarunner01

Yep, don’t trust the us federal government at all.

Do away with the income tax before you discuss one damn thing else, or take a flying leap.

Still gonna vote for Herman though, no other candidate even comes close to what this man has accomplished in his life, and no other candidate is even remotely trustworthy IMO.


17 posted on 10/24/2011 6:24:02 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“The media might call him just a “pizza guy.” They called Reagan just an actor.”

What a great Line! Very true!


18 posted on 10/24/2011 6:31:53 PM PDT by Stymee (Beat Obama with a Cain!)
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To: floridarunner01
The government never, never restrains itself when it comes to money. You do 999...then day the GOP doesnt control the government is the day the Democrats jack the sales tax up and put through more socialist junk. It just opens the door to future tax hikes.
I agree that it does not restrain itself. However, that is precisely why you need a 999 plan including the sales tax. Think about it, 100% of people will pay the sales tax. All businesses will pay the corporate tax (with no deductions, so GE will pay taxes unlike it does now), and all but the poor will pay a 9% flat tax (no deductions). This puts every single voter in virtually the same boat where they will get real mad if you try to increase their taxes. When you broaden it out, you can lower rates and stop pitting one class against the other.

Will the dems, over time, try to raise the corp rate, or the income tax rate for higher earners? Sure. They always will for all time -- REGARDLESS of what the rate is. That is who they are. So, your argument is moot, really. But at least we press the "RESET" button with this plan.

19 posted on 10/24/2011 6:35:12 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Stymee
“The media might call him just a “pizza guy.” They called Reagan just an actor.”

Cain is more than a 'pizza guy'. He is, literally, a rocket scientist. He's also a mathematician and successful CEO. The media knows all this; it's just more disparaging (and dishonest) to call him the 'pizza guy' as Hitlery did.

Your quote reminds me of the 1980 Reagan campaign -- I remember it will.

I was fond of a the following: "Why not an actor; we've had a clown for the past 4 years."

20 posted on 10/24/2011 6:40:13 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: South40

What I take from the graphs is that McCain was just as limited at 25% at the same time 4 years ago, and won.

It depresses me, but I have to point it out.


21 posted on 10/24/2011 6:48:21 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Beelzebubba
I hear ya. Noting is certain when we're this far out. This time 4 years ago pro-abort candidate Rudy Giuliani was leading. Thankfully that changed.

I have faith that with his pro-abort liberal past, Republicans will reject Romney once again. But of course only time will tell.

22 posted on 10/24/2011 7:00:54 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: PapaNew
Why can Herman get away with the stumbles and Romney and Perry can not?

We believe Herman's heart is in the right place. Romney's heart is in every place and Perry's heart with with illegal immigrants. (Unfair? Yes.)

Herman will get better every month. His instincts are right, we believe he'll make the right decision in the end.

Who else running can we rely on to make the right decision? The choices are Cain, Bachman, Santorum.

Santorum's rocket never lit. Bachman was crunched by the Perry roll out and Cain picked up that support. It ain't going back to Bachman.

I'd like to see Cain take two days for crash courses on the Life issue, Foreign Policy, Economics. Then one day a week for learning. Cain is beyond needing events alone.

23 posted on 10/24/2011 7:12:36 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: South40

I know what you’re saying: but look at what we got in 2008 instead of Romney...McInsane.

Between the two, I would’ve preferred Romney.

McInsane sucked on ice.


24 posted on 10/24/2011 7:31:03 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I don't think it mattered as the Republicans would have lost regardless.

Americans were foolish enough to believe that a smooth talking black man was going to bring 'hope and change'. White guilt and the thought that it was chic to elect a black man led to a Republican defeat.

25 posted on 10/24/2011 7:38:37 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
"The choices are Cain, Bachman, Santorum."

Sorry, I'm not voting on your ballot.

26 posted on 10/24/2011 8:48:13 PM PDT by matthew fuller (9-9-9 ? Just say No! No! No!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Herman Cain does not look better on TV than Obama.

He will lose...

Sorry but, It is that simple.


27 posted on 10/25/2011 1:31:10 AM PDT by CalTexan
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To: CalTexan

“He will lose...”

I think the reason why the Repub race will heat up is because as Obama & Hillary knew in 2008, WHOEVER the challenger is will be the next president. Reminds me of the recall of Gray Davis in California; the race became a freak show with dozens of candidates, including Arnold Schwarzenegger, Gary Coleman, and I believe Arianna Huffington as well, because everyone knew that Davis was doomed.


28 posted on 10/25/2011 2:20:30 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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