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Posted on 10/24/2011 6:41:25 PM PDT by Kartographer
"Nobody can afford right off the bat to buy 20 years of dehydrated mashed potatoes," he said.
He would buy a little extra every time he went to the store. Peace of mind increases as the larder grows, he said.
"If you stock food for a year and lose your job, you can at least eat for a year," he said.
Besides food and water, his stash includes certain medicines and some cash -- "If it's worth anything in the end" -- and important documents, some of which he's duplicated and stored off site.
"You can't be prepared for everything, but for whatever you can," he said.
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Underestimation can be fatal.
We are on the edge. Everyday there is a new story about the Yutes who grow more restless everyday and when you add the fact that because of the economy people are already on edge it wont take much to set things off.
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8) (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. Theyre a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You dont believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.
Today we have yutes who roam our streets who are with out morals, without respect for law or life itself. They will look are you with the same doll eyes a shark does before he eats you and they will feel no more compassion than the shark does.
That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the yutes. On the other hand the yutes wont think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.
For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:
For those of you who havent started already its time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
As the LDS say When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.
Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3
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That's very true. But most of us can afford to toss a couple of extra cans of vegetables in the cart every week. There's no reason that you can't hit Costco or your favorite warehouse store for a $12, 50 lb. sack of flour or a $15 dollar 25 pound sack of rice.
When you're at Home Depot or Lowes toss one of those $3 cases of water bottles or one of those larger 5 gallon jobs for $5 into your cart. It took us a about a year but by my estimation we could go 3 months at least before things got ugly from a food perspective. That's miles ahead of what most American households have. We did it all very low key, too. So it's not like anyone saw us unloading a truck load of stuff into our house at once.
I know you take some crap from a few folks around here, Kart. But I really appreciate all you've done.
Kartographer - Ignore the naysayers and trolls.
This is a good find and good post - thanks.
Here is a link to Part 1 of this series:
“20 years of dehydrated mashed potatoes’
Relatively cheap, actually, even for the exaggerated time span. Gotta mix in a lotta squirrel!
Imagine that...they sould like regular people.
See my tagline!
The communists always seem to try to control food. They say “how will the people get bread if the governmrnt does not give it to them”. Of course, they want to control who survives and who does not. You can see MooseChelle trying to lay the groundwork for government food control. If the government pays for your health care (even though it is paid with money stolen from you) they will try to control what you can eat because they will claim it affects health care costs.
A little bit at a time also helps to prevent spousal unit difficulties. One can build up a pretty nice larder before she/he figures out what’s going on.
Flipping out and dropping serious money all at once “Whattaya mean we can’t use the garage anymore??” is a sure fire way to cause problems.
We rest much better around here now that we're better prepared to deal with break-ins and such.
Of course there's the nice sense of security one feels when one has just stored away enough food to feed the family for another month.
I just got off the phone with a fellow prepper planning to slaughter our first wild hog at his place next Saturday (provided he gets a good shot).
A couple of us are just starting up rural machine shop, which is also part of the picture of self-empowerment.
Next on my list is to learn ham radio.
And I wouldn't trade the great new friends I've made through my local prepper group for anything.
The American phoenix is slowly rising again. Within five years or so, the US will be well on its way to self-sufficiency in fuel and energy. Manufacturing will have closed the labour gap with China in a clutch of key industries. The current account might even be in surplus.
It sounds like you've got things 'humming' down there.
I too feel more secure (in many ways) these days than before too.
I think about prepping everyday and usually wind up doing something too.
as for prepping...I am very disorganized...I do have extra peanut butter, foil,plastic wrap,extra sugar, pasta, rice etc...but I don't use mylar or 5 gal buckets...I freeze pasta/rice for 2 wks then put them in canning jars with an oxygen absorber....I have at least 140 cans of tuna!...that is my pride and joy...lol....
but not organized pretty....I'm working on that....
Naysayers are liberals that haven’t been mugged yet.
With enough hot sauce, even beans and rice can be pretty darn good.
Sometimes when I'm in my office in the afternoons I'll take a little break and cast my eyes around and make note of everywhere I could put a 5-gallon bucket of long-term food storage. That bucket could feed a person for the best part of a month.
Now I'm thinking of clearing all the old, obsolete books out of my bookcases, which I can use to extend our family cupboard.
This week I'm working on fleshing out (no pun intended) my first aid kit, and maybe doing some work with water filtration.
Good for you.
My place has already 'over-flowed' and I'm moving non-essentials (not edible)things to a friends warehouse. He's a prepper and that place is getting crowded too.
But, we keep bringing it in....
Tuna is a winner.
: encountered or used routinely or typically : ordinary
Examples of EVERYDAY
1. Don't let the problems of everyday life get you down.
2. We're just an everyday family, with a dog and a cat
and bills to pay.
If you want to describe something that happens every day, then you the two words:
EVERY and DAY
Teach a man to beg and he may eat for a day .....but
Teach a man to steal and he can eat for the rest of his life
Short as it will be.
Don’t forget crabmeat, salmon, sardines and anchovies.
For some sensible, down to earth advice and information on steps you can take to prepare
on a budget for emergency, disaster or societal upheaval take a moment and look at this site:
It is full of ideas and ways you can start small to prepare for uncertain times. It is one of the
best sites I have found to help organize your thoughts and get started on prepping. It shows
simple, effective, low cost things you can do to prep and stock up without a large budget.
Here is a sample of the topics you will find there:
- What to Do Right Now if the Hard Times Have Begun and You are Not Prepared
- How to Find Water and How to Make Water Safe to Drink
- How to Build a Very Effective Water Filter System for Approxmiately $75
- A Simple But Effective Survival Plan
- Realistic Self-Sufficiency: The Do's and the Don'ts
- How to Start Preparing for Hard Times on a Very Modest Budget
- During a Disaster Event Should You Stay at Home or Leave?
- How to Select the Optimal Retreat Location
- Use Common Sense to Compare Your Current Location to Another Location
- An Emergency Evacuation List
- How to Effectively Evacuate a Big City Without a Car
- A 30-Day Emergency Food Supply for One Adult
- One-Year Emergency Food Supply for One Adult
- Food Inflation Price Index Based on the One-Year Emergency Food Supply
- Hand-Cranked Stainless Steel Meat Grinder
- How to Preserve Food Using Three Simple Old Fashioned Methods
- How to Improve the Quality of an 1800s Lifestyle
- Firewood, Fireplaces, and Cast Iron Stoves
- Shelf Life of Canned Food and Dry Food
- Shelf Life of Medicine
- Recommended Books for Home Schooling
Books: Emergency First Aid Books and Supplies.
- Books: Recommended List of Books to Purchase Before the Hard Times Begin
- Basic Rules of Survival During Hard Times
- Basic Minimum Necessities for Survival During Hard Times
- 20 Common Mistakes That Should Be Avoided
- Comparison of Five Leading Brands of Toilet Tissue
- Two-Way Communication: Cell Phones, Satellite Phones, and Two-Way Radios
- Rechargeable Batteries and a Solar Battery Charger
- Solar Power Generator
- Pets and Livestock
- The Advantages and Disadvantages of Recreational Vehicles and Campers
- The Most Frequently Overlooked Items for Long-Term Hard Times Survival
- Grandpappy's Homemade Soap Recipe
- How to Melt Animal Fat and How to Clarify Used Cooking Grease
- Ancient Board Games and Solitaire Games From Around the World
- Grandpappy's Advice for a Successful, Happy, Prosperous Life
- How to Convert Human Waste into a Safe Garden Compost Fertilizer
- Recipes for Hard Times, including Acorns, Hickory Nuts, Pemmican, Squirrel, and Wild Game
- Home Gardening Tips (Index of Articles)
- Wilderness Survival Tips (Index of Articles)
- Free Preparedness Manual - LDS Free Online 222 Page Book on How to Prepare for Hard Times.
I am keeping a notebook of printed research on things like how to make soap - how to render fat, make candles, smoke meat, dress wild game.
I also have been buying tools that don’t need electricity - from garage sales and antique stores.
I also have been buying up (@yard sales)winter clothes & boots, towels and sheets - my family teases me because I always say: You never know!
I have a life time supply of 100 watt light bulbs.
I have a life time supply of incandescent bulbs.
They say how will the people get bread if the governmrnt does not give it to them.
Got a bicycle powered generator to light ‘em up with?
The canned goods that you presently have, if properly stored, will still be good when this coming crisis is over.
Canned goods are good and nutritious a lot longer than we all have been lead to believe.
No bike powered generator but I am in the market for a generator. Not for “end time” purposes but some members of my extended family suffered through an ice storm and were without power for about 10 days, if it happened to them, it could happen to me and like the good boy scout, I want to be prepared.
The gen set I’d like to have is expensive. Gen sets range in price from about $750 to upwards of $1,000,000. I want one that would replace all my electrical needs for a couple of weeks, probably propane.
Look on ebay for “propane generator” or “natural gas generator”.
There are a bunch that people are selling, usually from defunct businesses, that have only a few hundred hours on them just from weekly testing.
They are running around $3000-$5000 + shipping ($500?) for a liquid cooled, 18KW model. That’ll run 3 houses, but I’m looking to oversize because I plan on using “woodgas” at sometime in the future.
Teach a man to steal and he comes to my house he learns a different lesson from Mr. Mossberg. Unfortunately for him all exams are final.
Thanks for the english lesson.
Now would you care to post something useful on the subject of the thread?
""Studies performed by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revealed that 90% of medications tested were perfectly fine to use 8-to-15 years after the expiration date. "
I've gotten my antibiotics at CalVet Supply for years without any problems.
I toss 100# bales of hay but I still buy the smaller bags of rice & flour (on sale). Much handier size in the kitchen.
May I recommend that you watch the YouTube series on this subject by Patriot Nurse. I found them very useful and informative.
How on Earth could I have forgotten hot sauce?
Tabasco’s available in gallon jugs, I understand. $35.00. Wish I could buy Cholula that way.
Off to Costco today for a few more items...
“Relatively cheap, actually, even for the exaggerated time span.”
True. Dehydrated potatoes (or just about any other starch, actually), has about 1600 Calories/lb. A 2000 Calorie/day diet, would equal about 9125 lbs, for one person for 20 years. The cheapest place I know to buy dehydrated potates is at $33/25lbs., meaning about $600 per year, or about $1.65 per day for a 2000 Calorie diet.
$50 Some odd dollars for a monthly food budget is cheap, although 20 years of dehydrated potatoes would cost around $12,000. You are right though, that is relatively cheap, but all you have to do is add some oil to that for even cheaper calories (though oil doesn’t keep 20 years). 20 Years of food storage is pretty foolish in my opinion, but 5 years, is easily doable, you just have to be committed to spend that $3,000 dollars. It’s not that risky when you think about it as an investment, it’s not like you can’t eat it :-D (But I highly, highly, warn that it’s follish to try and store 5 years of one ingredient, like potatoes, because you’d get appetite fatigue and starve to death rather quickly, FYI).
Preppers tend to be smarter, or at least wiser, than the average population, but new preppers are often inexperienced, which is why I warn against the all _____ approach (rice, wheat, potatoes, etc.).
Yes, I have some that I got for dogs at the local co-op. I haven’t ever used antibiotics for myself or my kids - not sick much and just weathered through it.
But, if the SHTF - I suppose I could try them.