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US's Most Powerful Nuclear Bomb Being Dismantled
ABC NEWS ^ | October 25, 2011 | BETSY BLANEY

Posted on 10/25/2011 7:48:27 AM PDT by penelopesire

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To: penelopesire

Uh...no....That would be truck transport only!

Be interesting to know which plane that was though?


51 posted on 10/25/2011 10:02:30 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: G Larry

Well...the article did say that we were a year ahead of schedule. Maybe Zero thought he would speed up the whole thing by ordering them to fly the thing to FW and then trucking it to Amarillo. He does need a bump in the polls...he is sinking like a stone. His commie and islamist supporters will love this news....lol


52 posted on 10/25/2011 10:09:37 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: penelopesire

Why dismante it? Why not put it to good use and drop it on Nancy Pelosis head?


53 posted on 10/25/2011 10:11:35 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Why bother when a bucket of water will do the trick...lol
54 posted on 10/25/2011 10:19:26 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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55 posted on 10/25/2011 10:22:07 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: hoagy62
Like I said in the OTHER thread on this same subject...we got a ton more nukes sitting atop missiles in silos. They can go anywhere in the world with a few minutes notice.

This is the W-53.

W-53

A B-53 without the tail, parachute package, and nose. It sat on top of this:

Titan II Launch

The Titan II ICBM. The last of these were on Alert until 1988.

They were more than "bunker busters."

56 posted on 10/25/2011 10:26:19 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: penelopesire; All

Folks should understand that nukes need maintenance. They’re not like a conventional bomb, where if you keep it in a cool, dry area, the explosive material within the bomb will last for decades (or more) without any attention. Nukes are bombs with a shelf life. The fissile materials within them decay, and after a number of years, need to be refreshed or replaced with fresh material. An example of such a material is tritium - many of you might use night-sights on your handguns or such you’d use in home defense or on-duty carry for LEO’s. Well, those little glowing inserts fade in a few years, and that’s a result of the 12.7 year half-life of the tritium. Other components become poisoned by the decay of the fissile material and need to be changed out.

If this isn’t done, the result could be what nuke physics jocks call a “fizzle” - the nuke reaction starts, then peters out well short of potential yields as the nuclear chain reaction fails to take off properly.

Given that there’s only so much of this materials to go around, it behooves us to update/refresh the weapons we’re most likely to use. A bomb intended to be lugged around the world in 1950’s doctrine manned bombers obviously isn’t high on the priority list of weapons and delivery systems to be used in first strikes today.

I’m hardly an Obama supporter, but I think that the disassembly of weapons that are obsolete to current strategic doctrine shouldn’t be seen as some sort of conspiracy by Obama’s buddies. The fiscal and engineering issues have been talked about in engineering journals for years - how are we going to maintain the thousands of warheads we have in inventory? It is a problem that was first discussed in the mid-90’s.

This resulted in something called the “Science Based Stockpile Stewardship” idea within the LBL and LANL weapons groups, which then tied in with the Bush administration’s “Nuclear Posture Review” in 2002, both of which call for reductions in the US weapons stockpile over the 10 years following 2002. Basically, if you want to complain about the reduction or decommissioning of nukes at this point, we have to look back at the Bush Administration as the source of the policy.


57 posted on 10/25/2011 10:27:29 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Walkingfeather

Harsh!

(And yes, I’ve been to Amarillo.... ( : >)


58 posted on 10/25/2011 10:32:22 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Jeff Head; Squantos

Supposed to get close to 80 here today. I went for a walk at noon. The trees are beautiful this time of year. The part of Ft Knox where the Human Resources Commmand is located is near some Korean War era barracks that are surrounded with maple and oak trees. What a great place to stroll at noon. Lots of memories there now.


59 posted on 10/25/2011 10:41:19 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

60 posted on 10/25/2011 11:00:40 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: penelopesire

We’ve been dismantling these old 60’s era nukes since the 90s when we came off SAC alert.

These B-63s have been off the line since 1996.

Must have been a slow news day.


61 posted on 10/25/2011 11:01:51 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: hattend

63 s/b 53


62 posted on 10/25/2011 11:02:48 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: penelopesire

Fortunately, nucular bombs remain in the arsenal.


63 posted on 10/25/2011 11:07:45 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: SLB

Nice here for now.... Wed night supposed to get snik the back up to low 70’s this weekend..... Enjoy !


64 posted on 10/25/2011 11:16:49 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Strategerist
I'd dearly love to sit in on the disassembly. Nuke design has always been a fascination to me.

Weird, I know, but there it is. Suppose it comes from remembering the First H-Bomb headlines when I was a kid. And I just love to see how things work by taking them apart.

65 posted on 10/25/2011 11:38:49 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Squantos

That thing just begs for a “If you’re close enough to read this, you’re too close” bumpersticker.


66 posted on 10/25/2011 11:43:33 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: penelopesire

Yeah, a YEAR ahead of schedule.

There must be a way to keep this idiot and his handlers from making us setting targets.


67 posted on 10/25/2011 11:51:29 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: Buchal

“Why is it that the only government programs ahead of schedule involve destroying American assets?”

World Socialism cannot move forward while a powerful bastion of Democracy and self-determination still exists.


68 posted on 10/25/2011 11:54:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

With help from Hitlery and the UN.

\http://www.examiner.com/law-enforcement-in-national/global-gun-control-law-pushed-by-clinton


69 posted on 10/25/2011 11:54:38 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: Bigg Red

I am quite sure that Clinton gave the Chinese the secrets
without any renumeration. If You remember, Clinton’s entire
political career was financed by the Ling’s! In addition, Clinton had enough dirty laundry that the Chinese Government
could pick and choose on which items to Blackmail him and Hillary on! Lets not forget Bernie Schwartz, the CEO of LORAL who ostensibly “PAID” the Chinese Government to Launch LORAL’S Super Secret Satellite to save “15%” over a U.S. Launch. We learned later the Chinese gutted the Satelliteof it’s secret equipment before pretending to launch it in a humongous launch pad explosion.

Gosh, the Clintoons were just soooooo wonderful for America!sarq!


70 posted on 10/25/2011 11:58:06 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Westbrook
Too bad it wasn’t dismantled as originally intended: instantaneously in a 10 million degrees F, 4-mile wide fireball above Iran’s nuclear development facility, or even better, on Amahdi-jihad himself.

NOW you're talkin!

I can think of no more deserving targets than those Islamofascist mullahs and the little Persian pricks working with them like Ahmadinnerjacket.

Moving right along now ... the B53 is joining the great and honorable pantheon of nuclear weapons that helped keep the peace through overwhelming military superiority, going all the way back to the mighty Mark IV, the first true 'assembly line' atomic bomb.

Still, when contemplating the multitude of deserving targets in Iran, it would have been nice for the B53 to go out with a BANG!!
71 posted on 10/25/2011 12:30:13 PM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Would it be too much to ask that someone in Washington (whose salary, bar, and botox bills I am paying) explain the elimination of U.S. nuclear weapons to me?


72 posted on 10/25/2011 12:31:00 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: OldMissileer; All
HEY there O.M.! Been a while, but to divert to another topic for just a moment, when I read of the demise of Gaddafi the other day, I thought of you and a story you told on FR (I saved it!) and had a big ol' chuckle:

"The only thing I can think of when I read or hear about this old turd is the FLIR Pod video from the F-111 that bombed his butt back in the 80s. The video was tied to the audio recording of the flight crew.

"As the F-111 released the 500lb bomb the FLIR Pod rotated to capture the bomb literally entering the tent where Kadhafi’s family was located.

" When the bomb hit one of the F-111 crew said, “Knock knock Mother F*@ker!”
I still smile to this day.
50 posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:16:49 PM by OldMissileer


And so do I. LOL
73 posted on 10/25/2011 12:42:14 PM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: July4; NVDave

See NVDave’s post #57 for a highly intelligent and authoritative answer to your question.


74 posted on 10/25/2011 12:43:44 PM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: penelopesire
President Barack Obama's goal of reducing the number of nuclear weapons.

She means his goal of reducing the number of nuclear weapons to zero.

75 posted on 10/25/2011 12:46:09 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: penelopesire

Wouldn’t it be faster & cheaper to let it dismantle itself...over the Ayatollah’s head?


76 posted on 10/25/2011 1:06:59 PM PDT by Stayfree (Find out the truth at Lawyers-Lawsuits.com!)
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To: mkjessup

I don’t have a problem with necessary maintenance of warheads or with dismantling of obsolete weapons.

I do have a problem with unilateral disarmament, and I think Americans are owed an explanation that includes information on the status of our national defense.

I do not trust a world-government, Marxist president and his anti-American cronies to preserve our country.


77 posted on 10/25/2011 1:07:07 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Bookmark the awesome pic
78 posted on 10/25/2011 1:12:06 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: penelopesire

It should have been used on the Hajj.


79 posted on 10/25/2011 1:15:44 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: July4

Well said! We have no idea what else is going on with our nuclear defense. I read an article not too long ago about some testimony on capital hill and our military was complaining about severe cuts to our nuclear weapons maintenance programs or something to that effect. There are alot of things that a marxist president can do to undermine the whole arsenal...just like Clinton did.


80 posted on 10/25/2011 1:20:47 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Yosemitest
Lessee, when I attended the US Army school for Nuclear, Biological & Chemical Warfare (oh so many eons ago in the 1980s) the instructor gave us notes on the detonation of a 25 megaton warhead -- to the tune of: "Imagine a freight train loaded with 25 MILLION tons of TNT, traveling past a fixed point at 50mph. Such a train would take eight HOURS to pass that point at that speed. That translates out to a train that would stretch about the distance from Miami, Florida to Baltimore, Maryland in unbroken length. Now imagine all of that going up at once!" Now, that is imagery.

But we have no real need for those city busters in our inventory. Why use them, especially on an OPEC nation and irradiate all that oil for so long a time period? Why not just pull out the NEUTRON BOMB and vaporize all animal and human flesh with the residual radiation dissipating within four days or so? We can walk in and take over any country like it was brand new and uninhabited. Why not? Oh yeah, Jimmeh "The PEANUT" Cartah made us take that handy little device out of the inventory back when HE was the worst POTUS in history!

81 posted on 10/25/2011 1:24:55 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: Gaffer
It should have been used on the Hajj.

Result = Oil Under Glass.

82 posted on 10/25/2011 1:30:17 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: Strategerist

I am PRETTY SURE we had at least one deployed 24 megaton bomb flown about in B-52’s, and maybe B-58’s. See below.
B41 Y1 NGB Sep 1960 1960 1976 Jul 1976 3-stage TN, dirty 4840 ~25 500


83 posted on 10/25/2011 1:30:17 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: SLB
near some Korean War era barracks that are surrounded with maple and oak trees. What a great place to stroll at noon. Lots of memories there now.

As pictured in the 007 movie Goldfinger and which was the site of my first experience with Army ROTC in 1977. I attended a 6 week "Basic Camp" to bring me up to speed so that I could sign a full on contract and start my junior year at the University of Alabama as an Officer Candidate the following year. And yes some very intense memories linger. We used to go to the Officer's Club bar called The Fiddler's Green. Still there?

84 posted on 10/25/2011 1:35:47 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: ExSoldier

We have plenty of oil in NA and in the gulf...we don’t need their damned oil. Let them drink it for water while they’re looking for 50,000 SPF sunblock....screw them.


85 posted on 10/25/2011 1:45:54 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: July4; All
I don’t have a problem with necessary maintenance of warheads or with dismantling of obsolete weapons.

Well then this article shouldn't bother any of us.

I do have a problem with unilateral disarmament, and I think Americans are owed an explanation that includes information on the status of our national defense.

No argument there.

I do not trust a world-government, Marxist president and his anti-American cronies to preserve our country.

Absolutely correct. Unfortunately for us, our Nation is essentially in the hands of a Communist regime without any validity whatsoever, it operates with a fig leaf of faux legitimacy, and the abuses that it has already perpetrated against the American people no doubt have our Founding Fathers roaring from the grave saying "what is it going to TAKE?!?"
86 posted on 10/25/2011 1:57:06 PM PDT by mkjessup (Is Herman Cain the best conservative candidate? If you say "no", then tell me who IS!!)
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To: Strategerist

Destroy the world, the Earth? You’re saying we all have enough Nukes to actually turn the planet into dust? I doubt it. Kill off all life, I could see that happening but I’m an optimist so I’m pretty sure the Earth will still be here.


87 posted on 10/25/2011 3:16:50 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: goodnesswins

Radiation?


88 posted on 10/25/2011 4:14:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: July4

It shouldn’t be too much to ask! but the way Washington has corrupted and decayed Our America, I doubt You will get a Peep out of this decrepit Government......:-(!!


89 posted on 10/25/2011 6:52:51 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: penelopesire
Ok, so they *say* they dismantled the last bomb. But what about the MISSILES?

Tell me we haven't lost our freakin collective minds.

90 posted on 10/25/2011 9:05:26 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: penelopesire
The B53 was obsolete because only one bomber--the B-52H--could carry this bomb. Even the B-1B was never cleared to carry this bomb, because its non-aerodynamic bomb casing and sheer size made it impractical to carry in the front bomb bay of the B-1B even if the partition between the front two bomb bays were removed.

It was more practical to carry a larger number of lower-yield 200 to 400 kT B61 bombs, especially with the higher bombing accuracy offered by low altitude drops and the ability to carry more bombs to attack multiple targets.

91 posted on 10/25/2011 9:07:47 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: OldMissileer
If I remember correctly, the Russian R-36 missile (known for many years as the SS-18 Satan by NATO) carried a single 25 MT nuclear warhead for two reasons: 1) attack large population centers such as New York City and Chicago and 2) attack military installations like the NORAD command center at Cheyenne Mountain and SAC command center at Offutt AFB near Omaha, NE.
92 posted on 10/25/2011 9:21:15 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: F15Eagle
With the last of the Peacekeeper's being retired in 2005, the US ICBM arsenal currently consists of 450 Minuteman III's, which are being retrofitted with the W87 warhead, which will have a yield of 475Kt.

The missiles are evenly divided between the 90th (F.E.Warren AFB, WY), the 91st (Minot AFB, ND), and the 341st (Malmstrom AFB, MT) Missile Wings, which are under the 20th Air Force.

93 posted on 10/25/2011 9:25:57 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Yosemitest

It’s in the middle of Texas, surrounded by men with gatling guns in a secured and mined facility with a fail-deadly.

On top of that, it’s surrounded by thousands and thousands of armed Texans who have nothing better to do than shoot terrorists. Probably not going to happen, dude.


94 posted on 10/25/2011 10:04:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ExSoldier
I like the NEUTRON BOMB, although its never been used in war.
I asked the question to get the focus on If you want to think about it, Obama with guns to terrorist (Fast and Furious) publicizing where the weapon was, the theft of the weapon would have been a real problem.
Now my military experience intuition tells me that the core had already been removed before it was shipped, but that's a guess.
It might NOT have been removed.

Anyway, the immediate death range of that weapon is roughly a 20 miles radius, or 40 miles across.
A 40 mile diameter bite out of any city, not counting for radioactive fallout for years ... is unthinkable.
But Obama didn't even consider it.

As far as the use of other weapons, well let's just say that over 20 years as a control tower watch supervisor and primary crew chief of air traffic control, I'm familiar with technology up to 2001.
Tactical nukes are great, but Laser and Directed-Energy Weapons are better.
In 1994, I watched two aircraft at opposite ends of the runway fire green particle weapons of low density at targets set up off the edge of the runway.
Viewing with the naked eye, you could see the light emitted from the weapon pod, but viewed through binoculars, the light wasn't visible.
They were strong enough to scramble a man's guts, and slowly kill him.
And the aircraft were small weight class cat III.
96 posted on 10/25/2011 11:11:40 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: ExSoldier

Fiddler’s Green is still there. Huge change with the Armor Center now at Ft Benning. I live about 15 miles from the closest tank range. Sure miss my windows rattling.


97 posted on 10/26/2011 2:06:59 AM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: trumandogz

BTW... look up obama’s campaign promises on our Nuke arsenal... he promised to bring it to ZERO.

LLS


98 posted on 10/26/2011 4:35:01 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Strategerist

I agree. Let’s spend money on more precision bombs — whether nuclear tipped or not.


99 posted on 10/26/2011 5:28:21 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Good points all.


100 posted on 10/26/2011 5:48:11 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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