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Gadhafi Bites the Dust ... What's Next ^ | October 25, 2011 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 10/25/2011 9:33:15 AM PDT by Kaslin

"Another one bites the dust

And another one gone, and another one gone

Another one bites the dust." -- Queen

Forgive me if I don't join the State Department, American officials and world leaders in their euphoric Hallelujah Chorus celebrating the demise of Libya's Moammar Gadhafi. Oh, I'm happy he's dead, but I have as much faith that things will change for the better in Libya as I do in the Great Pumpkin rising from the pumpkin patch on Halloween night (sorry, Linus).

"Gadhafi's Death Ushers in New Era," read the headline in last Friday's usually sober Wall Street Journal. "West Hails a Turning Point...," read the sub-headline. The question is, or should be: a turning to what? As Richard Boudreaux sensibly wrote in the Journal, "(Gadhafi) leaves a nation torn by war, devoid of civic institutions and difficult to govern." What can be built on that rubble when Libyans have no history of practicing any of the values the West holds dear? No functional nation can rise when it rests on such a weak foundation.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has dropped an additional $11 million on Libya ($135 million since the uprising began), no doubt borrowed from the Chinese since we don't have that kind of money. Why do Democrats think money is the answer to everything? Let's see if the rebels submit receipts and expense vouchers showing what they spent. It's a safe bet much of it will go down the rat hole of corruption, as our money has in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

We have been assured by various sources throughout the misnamed "Arab Spring" that these revolutionaries are genuine democrats, who want free elections and will guarantee at least some rights (if not equal ones) for women, religious minorities and perhaps even political opponents. But the attacks by Muslims on Coptic Christians and their churches in Egypt ought to be a warning sign that an Egyptian (and Libyan) version of America is unlikely to bloom in such putrid soil.

Turkey was supposed to be the shining light of 21st-century Islam, a beacon to the rest of the Muslim world. Instead, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been turning more and more to Islam's conservative wing while rebuffing Israel and behaving in ways not befitting a U.S. ally or member of NATO.

In Tunisia, where the Arab uprisings began, an election was recently held. Initial returns indicate that a once-banned Islamist party, Ennahda, may have won a majority.

And Afghanistan isn't turning out as many had hoped. The U.S. State Department reports "there is not a single, public Christian church left in Afghanistan," the last one having been razed in March 2010. In March 2011 a Congressional Research Service report showed that Afghanistan has cost American taxpayers more than $440 billion (and counting), 1,700 lives (and counting) and the country is as intolerant of any faith other than Islam as when it was run by the Taliban. This is progress?

If real progress is to be made in Libya toward representative democracy, women's rights, religious pluralism, economic stability and diplomatic cooperation with the West, the first step must be to rewrite the National Transition Council's draft constitution. As I wrote in August following Gadhafi's ouster, Article 1 tells us all where the rebel leadership wants to take the country: "Islam is the religion of the State and the principal source of legislation is Islamic Jurisprudence (Sharia)."

Should Libya's new leaders approve a constitution without that clause, if they keep the Muslim Brotherhood at bay -- which is now active in other Arab nations experiencing upheaval -- and if they turn toward the West for more than economic aid, embracing the most fundamental of human rights, I will move from pessimism to guarded optimism. Confidence isn't warranted when a headline in the London Daily Telegraph says, "Interim (Libyan) ruler unveils more radical than expected plans for Islamic law." Than expected? What are they drinking?

I remain a skeptic that Libya is capable of heading in a direction that improves the lives of its people, aligns itself with the U.S. and our interests and lessens tensions in the region.

But I am open to evidence to the contrary, if it's not based on wishful thinking.

TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: gaddafi; libya; nato; obama

1 posted on 10/25/2011 9:33:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What’s next? Africa. The President told us about a week ago that he sent 100 troops to Africa. This morning it’s already up to 200. Where will it go from here? This is the way Viet Nam started. Not only that, some in Congress (Republicans) are asking how much this is costing. No one can give them an answer. $500 Million, $200 Million, $20 Million? No one knows and they expect the tax payer to foot the bill. These people are nuts.

2 posted on 10/25/2011 9:40:26 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Kaslin

“What are they drinking?”
Muslim Brotherhood Fool-Aid!

All the secularized and Westernized Arab countries started going back to Islam with Iran in 1979 during the Carter administration. The Carter Administration Part 2 (aka Obama administration) is just picking up where Carter left off assisting the MB in their goal of creating a world caliphate.

Next up is taking out Assad of Syria.

3 posted on 10/25/2011 9:42:23 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Kaslin

I predict that the Muslim Brotherhood will continue to assaults in Syria and Jordan to topple those regimes. Once Egypt, Libya, Palestine, and a good portion of the M.E. is in their hands - they will cause an incident to have Pakistan sell them a few nuclear devices to attack Israel. Iran will move into Iraq - which is mostly controlled by the Persians (I talk about this in my book) - and will also dominate the western part of Afghanistan. While this plays out - Persian forces will stress both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia - and begin their final push into Yemen to totally control that territory. If Israel is attacked, the Persians will have already set up operations from South America to counter any US aggression and negotiate with Saudi Arabia and Chine to pressure a financial situation within the US to draw it’s attention away from Israel.

A certain number of things need to happen in order for the red flags to be identified - but ultimately it will depend on responses from those being targeted.

4 posted on 10/25/2011 9:45:37 AM PDT by BCW (
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To: Kaslin

Gaddafi was a tyrant with African ancestry, although he has never presented convincing roof that he was born in the country he wanted to rule for life. He hated America, believed he was above the law, palled around with terrorists, and felt sympathetic to both communism and a unified Islamic power ruling over all of us. If we could find another similar tyrant, in our part of the world, I would be thrilled to see him leave power (a bit more peaceably but still sooner rather than later). November 2012 will (I pray) be a good month for America if enough real Americans stand up for freedom.

5 posted on 10/25/2011 9:45:37 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s what is next:

Sharia law declaration raises concerns in new Libya

6 posted on 10/25/2011 9:47:19 AM PDT by PMAS
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I think that’s a very possible scenario. In fact, with Obama in, I don’t see how we avoid it.

7 posted on 10/25/2011 9:48:07 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Kaslin
The common feature of the toppled tyrants is that none were enemies of America. Kadafy once was but renounced his enmity and gave up his nukes.
The common feature of the new regimes is sharia and thus enmity and preparation for necessary military or other violent action against America and the West.
The common feature of the revolutions is their instigation and promotion by the president of the United States.
8 posted on 10/25/2011 9:48:27 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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"New Libyan Govt Will Comply With Sharia Law"

Gosh... who could have seen that coming...

9 posted on 10/25/2011 9:54:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (We need a TEA Party march on GOP headquarters ~!!)
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To: Kaslin
Another one bites the dust

If Obummer expects these killings to give his campaign a "shot in the arm", he will have to continue the practice. Like a junkie needing a fix, he will increasingly use the tactic as election day draws near.

10 posted on 10/25/2011 9:59:53 AM PDT by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Kaslin

[ Gadhafi Bites the Dust ... What’s Next ]

Next will be the democrat party martyring Negrodamus..
Martin Luther Kinging him..

The funeral will take a year to complete.. on TV, the internet and in every single magazine known to man..

11 posted on 10/25/2011 10:02:56 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: Kaslin

“(Gadhafi) leaves a nation torn by war, devoid of civic institutions and difficult to govern.”


The perpetrators are, in no particular order: the UN, NATO, the ICC, Al Queda, the Muslim Brotherhood, The US Department of State, Hillary Rodham-Clinton, Huma Abedin-Weiner, Barack Hussein Obama, David Cameron etc. The householder is not responsible for the disarray following the burglary and murder. The aggressors left it that way, not the defender.

12 posted on 10/25/2011 11:08:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: hosepipe

My fear as well. A fresh martyr has more utility than a stale prophet, and it is easier to destroy a puppet than to craft one.

13 posted on 10/25/2011 11:10:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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