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Hume on Cain: Smoking campaign ad ‘sheer oddness,’ attacks on Rove ‘another odd thing to say’
The Daily Caller ^ | 25 Oct 2011 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 10/25/2011 11:03:45 AM PDT by mandaladon

On Fox News Channel’s “America’s Newsroom” on Tuesday, network senior political analyst Brit Hume attempted to make sense of recent “odd” decisions by GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain, including accusing GOP campaign strategist Karl Rove of picking on him and releasing a web ad of his chief of staff touting Cain’s accomplishments while smoking a cigarette.

The unconventional web ad is “sort of a metaphor for the Cain campaign,” Hume said. “You can never quite figure out what the guy is quite up to. You know, if he were a conventional candidate he would be campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire and working feverishly to raise money to do so. Instead, he keeps to a travel schedule which seems at times more designed to help him sell his book than it does to help him get nominated for president. The ad, I don’t know what they think they can accomplish — it’s only a web ad. You know, it may not see the light of day many places except that its sheer oddness means it is getting played right here on Fox. And what you get out of having some miscellaneous middle-aged guy smoking a cigarette and saying you’re the right candidate is mystery to me.”

As for the back-and-forth Cain has had with Rove, Hume said that was ill-advised and cautioned against giving too much credence to a recent CBS News/New York Times poll that gave Cain a four-point edge over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and a 15-point edge over former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich.

“That’s another odd thing to say,” Hume said. “Look, if you’re running for president you don’t want to get into a fight with Karl Rove. That makes no sense.

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KEYWORDS: cain; hermanator; libertarians; nationalbooktour; paulguys; smoking
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Hume chalked the Cain phenomenon up to a combination of Romney not giving a lot of confidence to conservative Republican voters and Cain’s ability to use the Republican debates to his advantage.......................Hume, Rove,and BOR can all got to hell.
1 posted on 10/25/2011 11:03:49 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Herman’s not following establishment rules, and it’s driving them crazy.


2 posted on 10/25/2011 11:05:49 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: mandaladon
“That’s another odd thing to say,” Hume said. “Look, if you’re running for president you don’t want to get into a fight with Karl Rove. That makes no sense.

Inside the Beltway types don't realize that conservatives have been battling Rove for years. We WANT someone who will tell Porky where to shove his RINO amnesty-loving agenda.

3 posted on 10/25/2011 11:06:13 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: mandaladon

FOX = RINO TV


4 posted on 10/25/2011 11:06:20 AM PDT by Lexington Green (''Those who bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boots that kick them.'' -- Eric Hoffer)
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To: mandaladon

FoxNews New York is “mostly” alright(-Shep and Hannity) BUT FoxNews DC SUX ASS! They are nothing more than a bunch of “inside-the-beltway” snotnosed BASTARDS!


5 posted on 10/25/2011 11:06:47 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: mandaladon

..Brit has never been the same since his son died IMO...


6 posted on 10/25/2011 11:07:36 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: mandaladon

What’s up with Hume? He used to be a sensible, stand-up guy.


7 posted on 10/25/2011 11:09:08 AM PDT by Palladin (Newt/Cain)
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To: mandaladon
... except that its sheer oddness means it is getting played right here on Fox.

Free publicity. Sure beats fund raising ;-)

8 posted on 10/25/2011 11:09:52 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: mandaladon

The reason Hume doesn’t understand the attack on Rove is because Hume obviously doesn’t understand what Rove stands for, and what Rove represents to conservatives.

And that means that Hume is so far out of touch with conservative reality he might as well be out there in orbit around Saturn somewhere.


9 posted on 10/25/2011 11:10:04 AM PDT by samtheman (Newt? Can you do it? Can you repudiate your time on the Pelosi couch?)
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To: almcbean

Hume & Rove began the attack on Herman Cain by calling Herman Cain, the flavor of the week!!! Well, the Herman Cain dude has been the flavor for the last thee weeks!!! What say you now, boys??? And....remember, you gents don’t choose the Candidate for POTUS in the Reublican Party, we the people do!!!


10 posted on 10/25/2011 11:10:35 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: mandaladon
As for the back-and-forth Cain has had with Rove, Hume said that was ill-advised and cautioned against giving too much credence to a recent CBS News/New York Times poll that gave Cain a four-point edge over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and a 15-point edge over former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich........................I guess the only polls that matter are the ones that show Mitt is ahead...too bad there aren't any.
11 posted on 10/25/2011 11:11:03 AM PDT by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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To: dirtboy

You can’t get more “inside the beltway” than Brit Hume. He grew up in Washington D.C. and went to high school with John Kerry at some elite prep school.


12 posted on 10/25/2011 11:11:37 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: almcbean

Prezactly!


13 posted on 10/25/2011 11:11:37 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: mandaladon

Attacks on Tokyo Rove are always justified, and it is customary to slaughter hogs in the fall anyway.


14 posted on 10/25/2011 11:14:05 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: mandaladon

Haah... how funny... its all about getting folks to check out the ad, with a not so subliminal message touting personal freedom, slapping down political correctness... I love it!!


15 posted on 10/25/2011 11:15:02 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: WalterSkinner

“Brit has never been the same since his son died IMO...”

Agree.


16 posted on 10/25/2011 11:17:03 AM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: almcbean

That’s about it.


17 posted on 10/25/2011 11:20:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: mandaladon

18 posted on 10/25/2011 11:21:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: dps.inspect

The ad will definitely go over well with business owners who have been forced to ban smoking in their establishments.


19 posted on 10/25/2011 11:22:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: mandaladon
I listened Hume last night on O'Reily. I was very disappointed and it is obvious that Hume is just like all of the other media elites. They check their integrity and honesty at the door when entering the profession.

Cain isn't one of the media elite annointed ones and therefore, is readily dismissed.

20 posted on 10/25/2011 11:23:28 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: mandaladon
"Look, if you’re running for president you don’t want to get into a fight with Karl Rove."

“Look, if you’re running for president as a conservative you're going to get into a fight with Karl Rove.

21 posted on 10/25/2011 11:25:32 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: almcbean
Herman’s not following establishment rules, and it’s driving them crazy.

Maybe.

Or maybe it's time for Cain to start behaving more seriously. Cain's ad WAS juvenile if not plain nuts---and we just don't need anymore of either.

22 posted on 10/25/2011 11:26:01 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: mandaladon

Myth and Perry are their own reality TV show

Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em Romney Perry Cain Ad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhQVAviVbg4&feature=player_profilepage

Really embarrassing


23 posted on 10/25/2011 11:26:25 AM PDT by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Hume & Rove began the attack on Herman Cain by calling Herman Cain, the flavor of the week!!!

No. It started when Sarah Palin tagged Herman w/ that 'flavor of the week' comment.

24 posted on 10/25/2011 11:27:51 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Lexington Green

“FOX = RINO TV”

Sure seems that have drifted that way. Or maybe they are just “establishment” TV that sure aren’t conservative. They are mostly a collection of blonds, neocon moderates, gay liberals, bill oriley(I’m smarter than the folks) and bill oriley wanna be’s. Getting harder and harder to listen


25 posted on 10/25/2011 11:27:51 AM PDT by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: mandaladon
You know, if he were a conventional candidate he would be campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire and working feverishly to raise money to do so.

I'd have to agree with Hume here. Party zealots will obviously have heard of Cain and many will vote for him in the primaries. But what about the primary voters who aren't really that engaged? Without the money to spend copiously on ads and GOTV drives, it's hard to see how Cain becomes the GOP nominee. The one-man-army model really doesn't work for political campaigns. And what if Cain wins the nomination and continues his quixotic one-man-army campaign against Obama's billion dollar fund, which will buy a massive GOTV drive and wall-to-wall negative ads? It could be a rerun of 2008, when McCain was outspent by Obama 4 to 1. Cain need to get his campaign organization in gear quick.

26 posted on 10/25/2011 11:28:28 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Fred

“Really embarrassing”

For Cain? Or for Itchy and Scratchy?


27 posted on 10/25/2011 11:32:57 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Breto

Email Hume at special@foxnews.com


28 posted on 10/25/2011 11:33:13 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Breto

Email Hume at special@foxnews.com


29 posted on 10/25/2011 11:33:19 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Breto

Fox does have some nice blonds and I must say I think the blonds are a lot smarter then the guys at Fox.


30 posted on 10/25/2011 11:36:53 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: mandaladon

Picking a fight with a candidate is an odd thing for a pundiot to do?? Hey Brit, quit digging!

Pray for America


31 posted on 10/25/2011 11:36:57 AM PDT by bray (Join the Cain Mutiny, tell the IRS 9-9-9!)
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To: mandaladon

Mark Block addresses smoking role in latest Cain video with Megan Kelly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxd28bBqtBE

Much ado about nothing :-)


32 posted on 10/25/2011 11:37:10 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Donnafrflorida

“Email Hume at special@foxnews.com

Done!
Told him he was disrespectful addressing Cain like he was some shoe shullfing fool and the Cain was right about Rove.


33 posted on 10/25/2011 11:45:48 AM PDT by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I don’t think so... it was a web ad. And it got the free press it needed to achieve the campaign’s goals.

These idiot pundits working overtime to promote Romney are fighting a losing battle this time. They aren’t driving this election.


34 posted on 10/25/2011 11:47:23 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: justsaynomore

The mediots would love to make the ad about smoking but reasonably intelligent people recognize it to be a freedom issue and they also realize that it took courage to make such an ad.


35 posted on 10/25/2011 11:48:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Zhang Fei

The amount of money (or lack thereof) that McCain had in the 2008 election is not the reason he lost.

Palin said this was going to be an unconventional campaign season. She was right!!


37 posted on 10/25/2011 11:54:14 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (http://www.honorflight.org/)
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To: mandaladon

Herman Cain is trying to out do Ross Perot and his “space aliens are working for Bush” idiocy.


38 posted on 10/25/2011 11:58:24 AM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

It’s a not meant to be seen on TV. It’s a WEB AD. What is the big deal? Web ads often paid for by 527 organizations often push the envelope or are designed to push someones button, which this did very well. That way it gets lots of exposure without having to the big money of a TV spot.

This ad is getting so much exposure, I say they are getting their money’s worth.


39 posted on 10/25/2011 12:01:44 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: EDINVA

What happened to Brit’s son?


40 posted on 10/25/2011 12:01:52 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (I'll take a Godfathers pizza with the works!)
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To: mandaladon

Karl Rove doesn’t like black presidential candidates. There, I said it!


41 posted on 10/25/2011 12:06:56 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: elli1

You are absolutely right!!!


42 posted on 10/25/2011 12:07:15 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: mandaladon

Britt, you’ve historically been a reasonable icon of sense in the on-air lie-fests with your fellow liberal conspirators. You have a chance here to redeem yourself with a higher Deity. You’d better take it and get right with yourself, son. Don’t trade your ideals for exposure and acquaintanceship with tools of the devil....


43 posted on 10/25/2011 12:10:56 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: mandaladon
Herman Cain: Demolition Man

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2797739/posts

My take on the ad.

44 posted on 10/25/2011 12:12:20 PM PDT by Brookhaven (I believe in the seperation of school and state)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

Clinton outspent Bush in 1992 and Bush outspent Kerry in 2004.


45 posted on 10/25/2011 12:12:37 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Spirit of Liberty
Palin said this was going to be an unconventional campaign season. She was right!!

Agreed, the "conventional wisdom" house of cards is collapsing.
46 posted on 10/25/2011 12:14:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: o2bfree
I don’t think so... it was a web ad. And it got the free press it needed to achieve the campaign’s goals

I disagree. The ad was great...up until the time the dude lit a cig. I mean...what was the point of that? Granted we have become PC...but this isn't 1950's and that dude ins't the Marlboro man.

It really wasn't necessary to the content of the ad and in the end...was a distraction to the message. Whoever thought of it should be fired. Cain should have been politically SAVEY enough to know this is dumb...even if its a small interenet ad.

That said...he still gets my primary vote and I'm in Texas.

47 posted on 10/25/2011 12:19:03 PM PDT by NELSON111
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48 posted on 10/25/2011 12:27:53 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: mandaladon

Had it been a typical, conventional ad it would have never been noticed. Actually it was a stroke of brilliance. What could have been less expensive and more effective than a puff of on a cigarette at the very end – look at the attention its received. “I don’t care what you call me, just spell the name right” is at work here.


49 posted on 10/25/2011 12:30:00 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: Palladin

Probably been to one too many DC cocktail parties.


50 posted on 10/25/2011 12:42:40 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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