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Leading Population Researcher: There Is A 90% Chance Of “Collapse Of Global Civilization”
SHTF Plan ^ | 10-25-2011 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 10/25/2011 11:24:25 AM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 10/25/2011 11:24:35 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Cloward-Piven at work for you.
2 posted on 10/25/2011 11:25:25 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kartographer; ken21

Mostly Dire.


3 posted on 10/25/2011 11:25:45 AM PDT by blam
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Paul was so right the first time.
4 posted on 10/25/2011 11:26:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: blam

We are on the edge. Every day there is a new story about the ‘Yutes’ who grow more and more restless. When you then add the fact that because of the economy people are already on edge and many are close to their breaking point it won’t take much to set things off.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Today we have ‘yutes’ who roam our streets who are with out morals, without respect for law or life itself. They will look are you with the same ‘doll eyes’ a shark does before he eats you and they will feel no more compassion than the shark does.

That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3


5 posted on 10/25/2011 11:27:41 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Erhlich appears to be doubling down.


6 posted on 10/25/2011 11:28:46 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: blam

Bilge water! The Establishment fully intends to abolish 90% of the world’s population for their own purposes. Has nada to do with the planet earth!


7 posted on 10/25/2011 11:32:21 AM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain)
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To: blam

Fortunately, very few people listen to this fool anymore.

Historically, major bottoms in economies are marked by dire predictions of doom. This particular bottoming process will be long due to its’ demographic roots, which can’t be solved overnight. But these doom stories may be an indicator of a bottoming process.

Let’s see, 2012 coming up. About 10 years to go, though things will be improving within 6.


8 posted on 10/25/2011 11:32:27 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (.....The days are long but the years are short.....)
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bbbrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaiiinnns!

bbbrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaiiinnns!

9 posted on 10/25/2011 11:32:38 AM PDT by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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The only way I was able to survive the mass starvation of the 1980s was by eating remaindered copies of the Population Bomb. Yummy and full of fiber... and BS.
10 posted on 10/25/2011 11:33:16 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Compare "Delay is preferable to error" - Thomas Jefferson // "Pass this bill now!" - Barack Obama)
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To: blam

Paul Ehrlich is a rotten bastard with a lot to answer for. The people playing his game will be overrun by those who don’t.


11 posted on 10/25/2011 11:34:37 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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I wonder if Ehrlich would be willing to make a bet?

Anyway I got more respect for Harold Camping than this bozo.

12 posted on 10/25/2011 11:36:02 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: blam

Global Robespierre!!

I hope Preppers are planning for a very very very very LONG crisis.


13 posted on 10/25/2011 11:36:34 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: blam

—is still on course to rise beyond the two billion maximum Ehrlich believes Earth can sustain without irrevocably destroying its water, earth and air.—

He was a bit off on that one. I figure that the planet, just assuming todays technology and if everyone was in a kumbaya spirit, could support 50 billion. There is a LOT of unused land. People really have no idea how much.

OTOH, one of the ways we currently feed as many people as we do is through things like Pink Slime. I think most of the foods we eat would make us sick if we saw what was going into them and how they were processed.

There’s nothin’ like growing all your own stuff.


14 posted on 10/25/2011 11:37:15 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: blam

This book had a profound infulence on me. It started my “Prepping”. I now have 17 years of water storred, 14 years of wheat, a grinding mill, and a pizza oven. Not to mention the heard of goats so that I will never run out of CHEESE.


15 posted on 10/25/2011 11:37:52 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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One of the more interesting articles regarding the collapse:

http://www.grandpappy.info/honehour.htm


16 posted on 10/25/2011 11:38:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: blam

We have an immediate problem right now and there’s a 90% chance that those living today will experience what we’ve often referred to as TEOTWAWKI (The End of the World As We Know It):


Why do you think I bought a farm in the middle of nowhere? I got chickens for eggs, turkeys and rabbits for meat, will have at least one milk cow within 4 months and I live walking distance to a very good salmon/trout river.

When we get hungry for red meat, we’ll barter with the local beef ranchers.

I have a 1/2 acre garden going in this coming spring along with a 1/2 acre (perhaps more) of feed corn.

Me & mine will survive.


17 posted on 10/25/2011 11:38:28 AM PDT by Grunthor (Poster may come off as abrasive, perhaps even rude. Consider this your warning.)
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To: blam

Europe, Scandinavia and Japan’s native populations are plummeting but as usual,
let’s not let the facts stand in the way of a liberal’s hair-raising Halloween story.


18 posted on 10/25/2011 11:40:16 AM PDT by tumblindice (Don't tread on me)
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To: blam

Ehrlich said that 90 million people in the US would be starving by 1990.

The truth was that there were 90 million people in the US who were on diets in 1990.

His research has no merit.


19 posted on 10/25/2011 11:40:25 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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Interesting Pauly is making predictions again. He's made so many that never happened. Last I heard he was denying ever having made them. I guess he figures we've forgotten.

Even the UN admits global population will peak around 2050. Growth rates worldwide have been declining for decades. You can't find predictions beyond 2050, because everyone knows the world is going to follow the fate of Europe and Japan. Population will level off and then begin to decline. And for countries whose industries depend on consumer spending that is very, very bad news. We, well my descendants, will suffer from population decline, not overpopulation.

20 posted on 10/25/2011 11:42:14 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam

21 posted on 10/25/2011 11:42:24 AM PDT by douginthearmy
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Years ago Erlich wrote an editorial for Science claiming the population increase was all the fault of women. Women just want too many children.


22 posted on 10/25/2011 11:45:06 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: blam

my first thought upon seeing your posting was “Could Paul Erlich possibly still be alive?”


23 posted on 10/25/2011 11:45:54 AM PDT by bigbob
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His pessism is the bastard growth of an unholy union between supposed 'scientists' and rabid liberal ideology festering in his lying heart.

Left truly without politicism, liberalism, the desire to control others' lives and devoid of the will to grab for absolute power, the world's growth problems would be solved - by ingenuity and free markets.

However, that is not what slugs like him want, because is cuts them out of the power equations. Instead of trying to help, he is yelling a false wolf so that he can feather his own nest. I hope he's the first to go when the sh!t hits the population fan, then.

24 posted on 10/25/2011 11:46:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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It isn´t the people. It´s their attitudes.


25 posted on 10/25/2011 11:47:26 AM PDT by onedoug (lf)
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To: GeronL
I hope Preppers are planning for a very very very very LONG crisis.

I tell people that laugh at me that I will happily give\barter them food and shelter but they are not getting a single sheet of TP.

26 posted on 10/25/2011 11:50:48 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: blam

>> Three and a half billion people later, he is more pessimistic than ever, <<

Then he’s a liar, because he predicted the Earth would be so consumed in famine and war, that the Earth would be depopulated and largely uninhabitable by the mid 1970s.

Paul Ehrlich makes Harold Camping seem responsible and scientific.


27 posted on 10/25/2011 11:56:24 AM PDT by dangus
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Funny how there are many here in this thread even who think that they are prepared for the absolute reign of terrors and horrors that are to come in the TEOTWAWKI. It does not matter how much you have stocked up or how much ammunition that you have the TEOTWAWKI will consume all and engulf you in a sea of mega-destruction and you will get hit with waves and waves of absolute terror and horror.

Myself I have burrowed down deep into the earth and created an elaborate tunnel system to escape the coming TEOTWAWKI. The TEOTWAWKI will be 99% a surface phenomena where hordes of mindless zombie like foollowers of the Population Bomb book will rampage and feed upon those who are left behind.

While it may be half the battle won by stocking up on ammunition and other supplies I suggest you all start digging now. Dig day and night and don’t stop until you are safe.


28 posted on 10/25/2011 11:56:28 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: blam

Bump.


29 posted on 10/25/2011 11:56:33 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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This same fool also predicted in the 1970’s that the entire population of India will have starved to death by 1985.


30 posted on 10/25/2011 11:57:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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are democrats civilized?

many of them are going tribal.


31 posted on 10/25/2011 12:02:37 PM PDT by ken21
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The movie Demographic winter took Ehrlich to task for his missed predictions of the population bomb.

Demographic Winter is a good documentary that lays out the truth of the declining population.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG2IZEzUmA0


32 posted on 10/25/2011 12:09:43 PM PDT by lost in the snow
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75% of all statistics are made up of 50% fabrication.


33 posted on 10/25/2011 12:13:56 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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Crazy Eddie Cycles (with apologies to Larry Niven)?


34 posted on 10/25/2011 12:14:28 PM PDT by buckalfa (Confused and Bewildered With a Glass Half Empty)
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To: blam

And I feel fine.


35 posted on 10/25/2011 12:15:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Yay! 10% chance we will be all right.


36 posted on 10/25/2011 12:18:07 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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And there's an almost 100% chance that Paul Ehrlich will be wrong. The guy has been spouting the same discredited Malthusian philosophy for 45 years. Anyone remember his bets with Julian Simon?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon%E2%80%93Ehrlich_wager
37 posted on 10/25/2011 12:21:46 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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My prediction has nothing to do with population, carbon, food, and the like. It has to do with Muslims. The only group of people growing in the world right now is Muslims. We are increasingly at war with Muslims and they are willing to fight back. After the Arab Spring and Iraq and Afghanistan, I think we will be in perpetual war with Islam until Jesus comes. If we think pulling out of Iraq will fix things, we will see very soon what it will be like to have the whole ME erupt with war and death. We used to think it was the Russians, then the Chinese, but now it's pretty clear to me anyway that the ME will kill anyone and everyone that doesn't pray to Allah. You hand them freedom on a platter and they want Sharia law and Muslim Brotherhood.

We better wake up and start the slaughter before it gets outa hand. Either that or expect the same mercy Kaddafy got in his last minutes.

38 posted on 10/25/2011 12:24:09 PM PDT by chuckles
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P_HKQGq730

“Too Many People” Paul McCartney


39 posted on 10/25/2011 12:25:40 PM PDT by Walmartian
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"The global population has since doubled [since 1968] and, although growth is slowing, is still on course to rise beyond the two billion maximum Ehrlich believes Earth can sustain without irrevocably destroying its water, earth and air.

“The next two billion people, should we get them, will put more and more pressure on environmental systems that are struggling today,” he said. “Each individual has to have food from more marginal land … materials from poorer ores, we’re going to use more oil so we have to drill deeper: we’re past the point of diminishing returns.”

Didn't I just hear that the population just passed 7 billion?

40 posted on 10/25/2011 12:48:19 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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41 posted on 10/25/2011 12:58:41 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Paperdoll

We are probably headed for TEOTWAWKI...

but not due to overpopulation,
but due to overgovernmentation.


42 posted on 10/25/2011 1:00:29 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ladyjane

Between his population explosion garbage and global warming we have spent a whole lot of money and time chasing ghosts.

I wish this cr@p would never have been brought up.
Our standard of living would be considerably higher than it is today.

The damage those guys have done is breath taking....


43 posted on 10/25/2011 1:02:27 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Paul was so right the first time.

You beat me to it.

44 posted on 10/25/2011 1:07:38 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: blam

If you read the words of Paul Elrich the worst thing to give humanity in their opinion is empowering technology.

Paul Elrich spews a lot of stuff that is most certainly evil or will result in evil towards humanity.

He is cut from the same cloth that would want humanity to stay on this rock till the sun explodes because they view Humanity as a “plague” on the cosmos.

[tinfoil happy time]
From the stuff people like this spew it almost makes one think that there ARE aliens here and they are influencing or controlling people like Elrich to keep humanity on the planet so they can dominate the space in our neighborhood.

And if not aliens, maybe demons of a sort.
[tinfoil happy time]


45 posted on 10/25/2011 1:15:41 PM PDT by GraceG
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I estimate that there is 100% chance of Erlich being wrong since EVERY other prediction he has made has been wrong.


46 posted on 10/25/2011 1:16:37 PM PDT by Hacklehead (The goal of political correctness is to hide the truth.)
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That is one of the reasons I no longer read Science. I think that earlier this year they had an article about the coming crisis due to Nitrogen free radicals. Involved a lot of money for research and correction.

At least Popular Mechanics tries to get the science right.


47 posted on 10/25/2011 1:21:31 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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There’s no such thing as “global civilization”.

There’s Europe and her progeny, and a bunch of savages, barbarians, and Chinamen.


48 posted on 10/25/2011 1:22:32 PM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: blam

This guy or people like him don’t need to be right; they just need to convince enough powerful people in government that they are right.

I pray I am wrong, but I firmly believe that there is at least a plan to unleash a biological agent that would kill 90 percent of the worlds population IF the powers to be were convinced it were necessary to set things in balance.

I am under no illusions on who would be innoculated. GS 10s and above...


49 posted on 10/25/2011 1:27:10 PM PDT by Molon Labbie ("It's free, swipe your EBT!")
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To: blam
look to acquiring a piece of land that can be passed on to your children and grandchildren. ... Learn to be self reliant, and pass those skills on to other members of your family.

Wow, the solution isn't more world socialism this time but to become a conservative!

A big war wouldn't entirely be bad for America. We would temporarily gut welfare spending and invest heavily in robotics. When the war is over anyone with a backyard can have a robot tended micro-farm.

50 posted on 10/25/2011 1:39:53 PM PDT by Reeses (Have you mocked a Democrat today?)
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