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Why Islam is in as much trouble as the West
MercatorNet ^ | Monday, 24 October 2011 | Denyse O’Leary

Posted on 10/25/2011 7:52:01 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Too few people to start businesses and families, too few people to drive the economy forward, too few people to provide for the future.

The world only had half as many people a generation ago. I guess that explains why there were no businesses, no families, and no future back then.

41 posted on 10/26/2011 4:01:06 PM PDT by trollop
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To: trollop

Lucifer was the first rugged individualist ;-)

There’s a difference between freedom and licentiousness. Man has certain obligations, the first of which was outlined in the first commandment in scripture, “Be fruitful and multiply.” That command has never been rescinded. For good reason.


42 posted on 10/26/2011 4:04:29 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: trollop

The problem isn’t the absolute population, but the structure of the population. By structure I mean the proportion of productive versus non-productive and the costs of caring for the non-productive portion. Elderly have much greater needs and expectations in their care, compared to children, and their needs grow with age rather than decrease. At the end of the elderlys’ dependence they aren’t productive members, but deceased so their is literally no future for society in them.


43 posted on 10/26/2011 6:35:22 PM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: Paladin2

Cool! Thanks.


44 posted on 10/26/2011 6:55:48 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: trollop
The number of people resulting from aggregate individual choices about reproduction is, by definition, neither "too many" nor "too few".

10,000 lemmings can't be wrong, hmmm?

You can worship at the idol of individualism all you want, but it won't change the mathematical fact that stable population numbers require an average of 2.1-2.2 children per woman.

Sustained fertility rates below that amount to a culture or nation voting for its own suicide.

45 posted on 10/27/2011 5:05:56 AM PDT by Campion ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
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To: Campion
You can worship at the idol of individualism all you want

This is a site for pro-freedom people. There are plenty of alternatives for people who see through vision-of-the-anointed goggles.

46 posted on 10/27/2011 7:17:24 AM PDT by trollop
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To: Flying Circus
The problem isn’t the absolute population, but the structure of the population. By structure I mean the proportion of productive versus non-productive and the costs of caring for the non-productive portion.

These things take care of themselves -- for example, we used to need 90% of the population working the land to grow enough food to feed everybody, now, it's more like 0.9%.

I swear, I could make a fortune selling sky-proof umbrellas to all the Chicken Littles out there.

47 posted on 10/27/2011 7:17:34 AM PDT by trollop
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48 posted on 10/27/2011 8:10:07 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: trollop

“There are plenty of alternatives for people who see through vision-of-the-anointed goggles.”

Nice Thomas Sowell reference.


49 posted on 10/27/2011 9:45:09 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

“Furthermore, a civilisation which upholds a “sacred, fundamental, constitutional right” to slaughter unborn children has little room for pointing fingers at the murderous tendencies of other civilisations.”

I agree completely on the subject of baby-killing, but even a murderer has a moral right to say, “Murder is wrong.”


50 posted on 10/27/2011 9:50:25 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

“Our current economic chill is just the beginning of a long demographic winter that will soon have much of the world in its deadly grip.”

Maybe I missed it, but there are two factors I never see anybody talking about.

1. The availability of easily concealed contraceptives to women, on demand and even free.

2. The abolition of a husband’s right to insist on his marital rights.

Lots of children used to be born as a result of husbands’ insistence on their marital rights in the absence of contraceptives.

Not any more.

Satan at work again? You be the judge.

No, never mind, I’ll be the judge. It is.


51 posted on 10/27/2011 10:04:07 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
There is no such thing as a right to rape.

Or are you Oprah Winfrey posting under this handle, making a fine distinction between "rape" and "rape-rape"?

52 posted on 10/27/2011 11:03:34 AM PDT by trollop
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To: trollop

Freedom demands responsibility. Without responsibility there can be no freedom. Our Founding Fathers and most conservatives realize that, perhaps you do not.


53 posted on 10/27/2011 1:26:20 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Leto
Freedom demands responsibility.

Yes -- specifically, the responsibility to slap down the enemies of freedom whenever they dare raise their ugly heads.

54 posted on 10/27/2011 1:48:56 PM PDT by trollop
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To: trollop

“There is no such thing as a right to rape.”

If you have actually bought into the lunatic notion of “spousal rape,” then I don’t think we should bother trying to communicate.


55 posted on 10/27/2011 5:02:16 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
I guess it's not "rape-rape" if you say so, Oprah.
56 posted on 10/28/2011 11:49:47 AM PDT by trollop
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To: trollop

Lloyd? Lloyd Christmas, is that you?

Never mind, you just go on aheaed and keep that mind closed. It’s much more safe and secure that way.

If the consequences of what I am saying are outside your comfort zone, just pretend I said something else. Works for the libtards, right?

Besides, the liberals responsible for the spousal rape nonsense are *so* much smarter than anyone who ever lived before that thousands of years of history can be discarded sans souci.


57 posted on 10/28/2011 6:41:32 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
Yes, in fact we ARE much smarter these days about matters of morality than our benighted primitive ancestors:


58 posted on 10/29/2011 7:03:24 AM PDT by trollop
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To: dsc
PS -- Not only are we smarter about morality, we are also superior in the trait that makes us human -- bending nature to our will, rather than vice versa. The separation of sex and reproduction, like the separation of work and muscle, is an example of modern superiority.

I suppose a greenie-weenie nature worshipper like you would disagree, but sensible people don't pay any attention to such cultists.

59 posted on 10/29/2011 7:06:26 AM PDT by trollop
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“I suppose a greenie-weenie nature worshipper like you would disagree”

I suppose you’re hoping your silly insults will make me angry enough to act badly.

Gee, who else do we know that employs that strategy?

“Yes, in fact we ARE much smarter these days about matters of morality than our benighted primitive ancestors”

Is that why we’ve murdered over 50 million babies in this country alone since Roe versus Wade? Is that why criticism of same-sex attraction disorder gets people in trouble? Is that why we have so many illegitimate children and children of divorce? Is that why the Internet, potentially the greatest development in the history of mankind, is constantly used for conveying groundless insults and lying about events, policies, people, and everything else?

“we are also superior in the trait that makes us human — bending nature to our will, rather than vice versa.”

What are you, about 12 years old? Many species overcome nature in one way or another. Bees make hives for shelter and honey for food. Beavers make dams and lodges. The fact that our greater intelligence allows us to carry that further is a quantitative difference, not a qualitative one, and is very definitely not what makes us human.

“The separation of sex and reproduction…is an example of modern superiority.“

OOOooooo, right out of the feminazi handbook.

The separation of sex, reproduction, love, and marriage until death do us part is a *huge* tragedy.

It is now clear to me that you are not a conservative, and I have no interest in addressing your nonsense. Run along back to DU now, and leave the grownups alone.


60 posted on 10/29/2011 12:32:45 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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