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Gaddafi son wants to surrender to The Hague NTC
Russia Today ^ | October 26th 2011 | Agencies

Posted on 10/26/2011 2:19:45 PM PDT by Cardhu

Former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi’s son and heir apparent, Saif al-Islam, and ex-intelligence chief Abdullah al-Senussi have reportedly suggested turning themselves in to the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

­The news comes from NTC senior Libyan military official Abdel Majid Mlegta, as quoted by Reuters.

Since NTC forces took control of Sirte, Gaddafi’s hometown, the colonel’s son has remained in hiding. He is believed to be somewhere near Libya's southern border with Niger.

According to the NTC official, Saif al-Islam and Senussi are trying to broker a deal to surrender to the court through a neighboring country. Which country that might be, however, has not been revealed.

Mlegta claimed that they feel unsafe both in Libya and in neighboring Niger and Algeria, where some Gaddafi family members have already found refuge. In any case, he added, they said that Niger was asking for too much money for them to stay.

Saif al-Islam, like his deceased father and Senussi, is wanted for war crimes. The ICC issued arrest warrants for the three of them in June on charges of crimes against humanity, after the matter was referred to the court by the UN Security Council in February. The charges were made in connection with the Libyan regime’s violent crackdown on protesters that month.

As to what is behind Saif al-Islam’s decision, political analyst Samir Awad told RT that it is likely that “he has seen what happens to anyone linked to the Gaddafi regime or his family if they fall into the hands of rebels, who are completely disorganized and who abide by no law.”

The analyst suggested that Gaddafi’s son may have decided that instead of living as a fugitive for the rest of his life, he would rather surrender to The Hague.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algeria; hague; libya; niger; saifalislam; saifgaddafi
“There he can he can have two things which his father and brother did not have – a safe house and a just trial,” he said. “And I think that both things are also to be expected for him since now he is a liability to the Tuareg tribe that holds him, instead of being an asset,” Awad said.
1 posted on 10/26/2011 2:19:48 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

Either way he does not have a long life expectancy.


2 posted on 10/26/2011 2:25:54 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

There is no death penalty in Europe so the Hague is a better place for any trial.


3 posted on 10/26/2011 2:32:12 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

First turn over the 200 billion your daddy and your family stole. When you go to jail, we want to make sure you go there impoverished.


4 posted on 10/26/2011 2:43:45 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: chuckee

Use the 200 billion to BUY The Court.


5 posted on 10/26/2011 2:49:51 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: chuckee

Tony Blair has probably got that now - saving it for a rainy day.


6 posted on 10/26/2011 2:55:07 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

LOL.... I’m thinking that seeing reports/videos of his fathers brutal departure has been a good motivator for the boy.


7 posted on 10/26/2011 3:02:34 PM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life~........ leaning heavy for Newt 2012)
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To: Gator113

Yeah if I saw video of someone sticking a knife up my dads butt before they shot him in the head and displayed his body in a freezer... I think I would surrender to the place with the weakest penalties for crimes too.


8 posted on 10/26/2011 3:15:54 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Cardhu

Libya Infrastructure Report 2011
Business Monitor International
January 27, 2011
70 Pages - Pub ID: BMI6194451

http://www.marketresearch.com/Business-Monitor-International-v304/Libya-Infrastructure-6194451/

Libya’s construction sector is fast becoming one of the most active in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, with outstanding growth recorded in 2009. Historic growth levels combined with substantial infrastructure investment plans have guided an upward revision in our growth outlook for Libya’s construction sector over the short term, with real growth of 8.5% and 7.9% expected in 2011 and 2012 respectively.

There are a number of factors driving our optimistic outlook for Libya’s construction sector:

• Construction industry real growth for 2009 was reported at 9% year-on-year (y-o-y), making it one of the best performing countries globally, despite a difficult backdrop in terms of risk aversion and reduced oil revenues. Nominal growth came in at 26% y-o-y, however, this is cause for some concern, indicating high inflation levels in the construction sector.

• Substantial investment plans have been announced for the housing and infrastructure sectors, with a US$100bn, four-year (2009-2012) investment plan currently being executed. In June 2010, this was further increased by US$52bn, meaning a considerable amount of money will be directed to the construction sector.

• A healthy budget surplus is propping up investment plans, making them easily feasible. In 2010, BMI estimates that Libya’s budget surplus was 14.7% of GDP, and will remain in the double digits in both 2011 and 2012 (11.9% and 10.3% respectively). This is enabling the government to procure large-scale and capital-intensive construction projects.

• Demand stemming from a young and increasingly rich population is putting pressure on existing infrastructure. Economic growth is also demanding improved transport networks and access to electricity, both of which are crucial if the government wants to diversify away from the hydrocarbons sector into tourism and industrial production. The government is hoping to position Libya as the gateway to Africa, meaning improved transport networks are a priority.

• The presence of a number of international construction companies gives further credence to Libya’s plans, and the timely execution of projects. Austria’s Strabag, Brazil’s Odebrecht, Egypt’s Arab Contractors and Canada’s SNC-Lavalin are just a few of the companies already active in the country, and therefore likely to benefit from further contract opportunities.

A combination of the above factors is driving our optimism for Libya’s construction sector, with 2011 and 2012 expected to present the strongest growth owing to the four year investment plan running to 2012. Beyond this, between 2013 and 2020, growth is expected to slow, although it will remain strong, with annual average real growth of 5.5%. However, there is upside potential to this as another investment plan will likely follow the current one.


9 posted on 10/26/2011 3:17:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Cardhu
Former MI5 Agent Annie Machon said in a report to the conflict in Libya: “They’ve had free education, free health, they could study abroad. When they got married they got a certain amount of money. So they were rather the envy of many other citizens of African countries. Now, of course, since NATO’s humanitarian intervention the infrastructure of their country has been bombed back to the Stone Age. They will not have the same quality of life. Women probably will not have the same degree of emancipation under any new transitional government. The national wealth is probably going to be siphoned off by Western corporations. Perhaps the standard of living in Libya might have been slightly higher than it perhaps is now in America and the UK with the recession,” she said. "What really was the UN & NATO trying to achieve?"
10 posted on 10/26/2011 3:20:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks
200 Billion

He could be on the beach 90 miles from Florida.

Cuba.

11 posted on 10/26/2011 3:21:03 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2797118/posts?page=52#52

GREED OVER LIBYAN SECRET TREASURE: BLUE GOLD excerpt:
Gaddafi and the Neighborly issues.

Mubarak spoke at the 1996 Great Man-Made River Inaugural ceremony and stressed the regional importance of the project. Gaddafi called on Egyptian farmers to come and work in Libya, where there are only 4 million inhabitants at the time. Egypt’s population of 55 million is crowded in narrow bands along the Nile River and delta region.

In the 1970s, Qaddafi expelled many Egyptian families from Libya, but over the recent years the two countries have become close once again. There were plans to build a railway line to facilitate the two nations travel back and forth. There was also a standing commission plans between Sudan and Libya for integrating economic activity.

But even with that 1,800 miles of giant hydrological enterprise in operation, Libya still depends on foreign markets for three-quarters of its grain. To make his desert nation self-sufficient in food, Gaddafi made some long-term deals with nearby countries to grow food for Libya.

The Western African state of Mali has become dependent on Libya for aid and investment, funding its government buildings, hotels, and other high-profile infrastructure. Thus, a secret deal was struck between Mali’s president, Amadou Toumani Toure, and Libya’s Colonel Gaddafi became the solution to enhance Libyan food security by receiving 50 years worth of undisclosed rights, paid by the Libya Africa Portfolio Fund for Investment. Libyan-controlled organization called Malibya oversees the Libyan enterprise: A canal stretching 25 miles north from the River Niger to 250,000 acres of proposed irrigated land at the edge of the marshes, to divert large amounts of Niger River water for extensive irrigation upstream. It was dug in 2010 by Chinese contractors, who are now preparing the first 15,000 acres of fields.

The scale of the project is astounding. The director general of Malibya, Abdalilah Youssef, boasted in 2008 that the canal could supply up to 4 cubic kilometers of water a year to the enterprise’s fields of rice, tomatoes, and fodder crops for cattle. The current take for all other existing irrigation projects is 2.7 cubic kilometers a year, it grabs as much as 210 cubic meters a second, potentially more than doubling the amount of water taken from the river for irrigation.

Larger than Belgium, it is Africa’s second-largest floodplain and one of its most unique wetlands. Seen from space, it is an immense smudge of green and blue on the edge of the Sahara.

http://thesantosrepublic.com/multimedia/photogallery/2011/07/Great-Man-Made-River.jpg

The Great Man-Made River of Libya.

http://thesantosrepublic.com/multimedia/photogallery/2011/07/libya4.jpg

The world’s biggest effort to reclaim deposits of fossil water is the Great Man-Made River in Libya, for which Gaddafi has spent $30 billion over the past three decades building for his people and given as a gift to the Third World without any financial or help from the USA, World Bank or IMF.


12 posted on 10/26/2011 3:32:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Is this one of the sons that the rebels have already killed and captured multiple times?

Thanks Cardhu.


13 posted on 10/26/2011 3:45:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cardhu


14 posted on 10/26/2011 4:00:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Progress!!!! lol


15 posted on 10/26/2011 4:08:21 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: Cardhu

I didn’t know that. Could Hague send him to a country that would kill him?


16 posted on 10/26/2011 4:12:00 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: catbertz

Shovel Ready!


17 posted on 10/26/2011 4:12:26 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Obama.....a perfect example of why you can't trust someone that won't look you in the eye)
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To: Cardhu
Gaddafi son wants to surrender to The Hague – NTC

I bet they appoint him to a lifetime term as Civil Rights Commissioner of the World. If they don't, the UN will.

18 posted on 10/26/2011 4:17:05 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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19 posted on 10/26/2011 4:30:20 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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Woo Hoo! Turn this Thon on! Donate Here!
Graphic stolen from Freeper BIGLOOK.

20 posted on 10/26/2011 4:32:54 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Cardhu

I suppose turning himself in at the local NTC office is not a good idea.


21 posted on 10/26/2011 4:39:05 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Fred Nerks

Interesting quote.

Countries with a large resources base, a small population, and a relatively lightly armed defense force - countries like Australia - should be watching what happens to Libya with some concern.


22 posted on 10/26/2011 5:31:53 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

You’re right...all it would take is an increased influx of ‘immigrants’ ultimately persuaded to aggitate for an autonomous region, create a ‘rebellion’ - and with the UN prepared to carry out this insane ‘duty to protect’ - we could also be bombed out of existence.
Now THAT would suit the Indonesians.
Wonder if NATO has a military base in Indonesia yet? NATO and the UN appear to be nothing but servants of islam.


23 posted on 10/26/2011 5:47:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: BlackVeil; Fred Nerks
Not yet for Australia ...but true for other countries that do not have the best of optics (Australia does as a leading Western nation) and a huge resource base. However, if China was to take a larger role in global geo-politics (say a truly multi-polar world, with China being the major counterpoint to the US), then Australia would find itself in a totally different situation. Close proximity, huge resource base, ENORMOUS empty space (comparing the size of the US to that of Australia is interesting), and hard to patrol all of it. There was actually a movie that came out recently about a Chinese invasion of Australia that comes out of the blue (Tomorrow, when the War Began .....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow,_When_the_War_Began_%28film%29#Plot).


24 posted on 10/27/2011 1:35:21 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Cardhu
Had the U.S. not intervened in this Chinese fire drill the Qaddafi regime today would be trying the rebels for their numerous war crimes. The proceedings likely wouldn't be as formal as the Hague's.
25 posted on 10/27/2011 3:45:24 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: spetznaz

JEMAAH ISLAMIYA.link

excerpt:

Bomb blasts at the Sari Club and Paddy’s Bar in Kuta which killed 200 people in 2002 provoked a major crackdown on the group by the Indonesian government. The consequent arrests, and hounding of the group, have forced changes in leadership, structure, and training.

Administrative structure

JI is thought to be divided into four regional groups, or mantiqi:

1.Mantiqi I - mainland Malaysia and Singapore (for fund-raising)

2.Mantiqi II - Java, Sumatra, other islands of Indonesia (jihad)

3.Mantiqi III - Philippines, Borneo, Sulawesi (for training)

4.Mantiqi IV - Australia (for fund-raising)

Mantiqi I provided most of the leadership until about 2003 and these men were internationalist oriented, close to al-Qaeda. Mantiqi I is now on its knees and key cadres of JI are being drawn from Mantiqi II who are more Indonesia focused, less interested in the middle east, want to establish sharia state in Indonesia. This may lead to fewer attacks on Western targets in Indonesia.

26 posted on 10/27/2011 4:01:20 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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