Skip to comments.Steve Jobs Called Fox News a ‘Destructive Force in Our Society’
Posted on 10/26/2011 7:58:28 PM PDT by re_tail20
Rupert Murdoch must have imagined Steve Jobs would be a feisty dinner guest. Even still, the News Corp. chairman couldn't have foreseen that, in one night at the mogul's Carmel, California ranch, Jobs would call his tech people incompetent, get a guy fired, and say that Fox News was literally destroying the world.
Walter Isaacson's new biography of the Apple co-founder says Jobs railed against the conservative news channel and tried to convince Murdoch to shut it down. His comments came at the 2010 iteration of News Corp.'s annual management retreat. Isaacson writes:
In return for speaking at the retreat, Jobs got Murdoch to hear him out on Fox News, which he believed was destructive, harmful to the nation, and a blot on Murdoch's reputation. "You're blowing it with Fox News," Jobs told him over dinner. "The axis today is not liberal and conservative, the axis is conservative-destructive, and you've cast your lot with the destructive people. Fox has become a destructive force in our society. You can be better, and this is going to be your legacy if you're not careful." Jobs said he thought Murdoch did not really like how far Fox has gone. "Rupert's a builder, not a tearer-downer," he said...
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He is gone now.....move along, nothing to see here. 98.6
not 98.6.....room temp.
Steve Jobs - Innovative technology genious; political, social, moral, ethical moron.
Much ado about nothing. FOX at best being center RINO. I guess even sainted rats need a boogey person.
Jobs must have got into snorting his chemo.
Flash-back from his acid trips?
What all of these fellows taught is that attempting to build a personal philosophical and moral structure under Zen standards has absolutely nothing to do with how much money you can make or how smart you can be.
Which means, of course, that their brand of Zen is useless.
But which company would you rather own stock in? I’ve made very little from Microsoft, made a lot from Apple.
I just wonder what happened when these successful people sold the rest of us out (and I think sold their souls to lucifer). Did they consciously sell their souls or was it just lack of judgement? The way they bash conservatives and Christians tells me it was a conscious decision and they have a contract with lucifer they must now keep.
I stopped watching about six months ago and have been much happier since.
Let's face the facts kiddies, FNC is slightly to the right on CNN. It has followed the RINO philosophy of moving as far to the left as possible without totally alienating conservatives.
If you want to delude yourself and keep watching go ahead. I'm sure Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes appreciate you as they laugh their way to the bank.
I own very little stock in either one. I’m into planning my retirement; if I make it that far that is.
I guess it’s true that some “genuises” are absolute nutcases otherwise.
Haven’t seen more than 100 hours of it in the past decade but I cannot imagine that endless mortgage commercials where ‘INTEREST RATES HAVE CHANGED’ interspersed with perseveration over gary condit/rich dead woman in bermuda/brittany spears/indiana parking lot spankings/missing persons/dead michael jacksons/etc are a destructive force in our society. Were cartoons on his hit list also?
Lucifer has nothing to do with it. Jobs and Buffet and the rest of that ilk are simply selfish animals. How rude and selfish do you have to be to demand that government confiscate more money from neighbors, friends, and complete strangers? How rude and selfish do you have to be to walk into a polling place on election day and VOTE for government to confiscate more money from neighbors, friends, and complete strangers?
Sure was destructive to him in ‘98.
Fox, pure evil.
Then again, it fitted the need... sell.
Oh by the way, i’d be just as evil not to include what was said about him recently (shakes head, I don’t know how Neil lives with himself):
Well, my job is done here... and it only took 15 seconds.
Scrub away my lovies.
Before you do, video on that last one. (I have a hand drive and I know how to use it).
re_tail, thanks for playing.
You are making the case that they unconsciously sided with evil due to their greed. I look at the coordination of what they say and I am convinced they willingly sold their souls and are parroting what they must now say.
One doesn’t need to be ‘rude and selfish.’ Believing that the ‘common good’ is more important than individual rights and individual judgement is more than enough to conclude as he did.
You have to be kidding.
The asshole on the left achieved much better results from his efforts than did the asshole on the right. Jobs owns Gates in every way imaginable.
It’s talking about character not product.
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Of course. But where’s your self-examination?
You are taking the huge leap of faith that you are a good arbiter/judge of these two lives.
Are you sure that your values are the right measure of men? You are applying your own values on these two individuals’ lives with absolutely no humility on your own part. What gives you that right?
Bill Gates is not the saint you make him out to be. Steve Jobs is not the sinner you want him to be. Give it a rest, wish them well and watch what you want to.
YOU COULD HAVE MADE YOUR POINT WITHOUT USING A WORD THAT OFFENDS WOMEN AND CHILDREN even though they too possess the offending orifice
Are you a woman or a child?
Look. All I did was post a character comparison that I saw. If you want to judge, then you judge. Okay? I was getting tired of all this “Saint Jobs” and just voiced an opinion. You know, an opinion. I didn’t know you’re not allowed to do that. You have yours, I have mine. Enough said.
Man up and stand by your post. Don't be a wuss...stand by your opinions. Explain it. Make your point. And be smart about it.
You posted a bitmap that someone else created and for some reason you think it's the proper reaction to "Jobs worship". You obviously feel that it represents your thoughts, perhaps expressed better than you could have come up with.
I don't think Jobs was a saint at all. In fact some other tight-ass on this thread already pointed out that I used language that he doesn't like.
A Tale of Two Companies
If you are like me you havent seen so much of a hoopla about someones passing since John Lennon.
And Jobs really was a lot of things to a lot of people. Family guy, an adopted child who wasnt aborted, and many other things. But I also see a lesson in out of control government.
Most of you remember seeing a picture of Bill Clinton and Gates playing golf one weekend.
Naturally you assumed that Gates was being shaken down by Clinton for DNC money. Well Gates played golf but he didnt play ball. Within weeks Renos justice department was filing an antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft.
One of the first things Bush did after he gave the military a pay raise was to stop this suit.
But as a result Microsoft fell behind a couple of years in innovation. This allowed Apple to take the lead, and their products still command a 50% or larger price premium as a result.
This has made Apple rich, but made mobile devices more costly to the masses.
Once again out of control government ends up costing everyone.
It was a joke son.
Forgot the /sarc tag
Hehe, sorry bout the eye-roll (and loaded for bear response).
Businessmen are not philosophers and thinkers that writers and artists are (sometimes, not always.) Nothing to emulate, except financial success, which is so often a matter of luck, and in those two cases most certainly. Neither Jobs nor Gates can guide your children to riches. Maybe the super salesman Larry Ellison can.
“Steve Jobs - Innovative technology genious”
Not even that. He was opportunistic and very, very good at identifying and exploiting the ingeniousness of others. He was very good at getting the very best out of the people around him, which is an extremely valuable and very, very rare talent. I also find that he was very good at setting “nearly” impossible goals, something which I believe he learned the value of at HP, when HP was HP (as opposed to the shell marketing company that it is now).
The WOZ was, and is, the genius. But he got out of the game early.
No sale on that lame excuse.
A person has to be rude and selfish to demand that government confiscate more money from neighbors, friends, and complete strangers. Jobs and his ilk are rude and selfish. Case closed.
Not at all. I have no problem with measured greed, and I'm not sure if "evil" is the right word.
I still like my adjectives - - "rude and selfish".
“Maybe the super salesman Larry Ellison can.”
I just don’t “get” him. Nonetheless, he must be doing something right, given that he is beloved by no one.
Oracle makes a damn good product IMO, far and away the best in its field; I based this part of my career on it - but unfortunately, they know it, and price it accordingly.
Yeah, liberals hate the fact they lost their monopoly on TV news and no longer could tilt the views of people.
Fox did nothing but have one or two more real conservatives on the opinion shows and then just report the news straight.
How dare them?
Jobs was a closed shop person.
He also said he could will his cancer away.
And that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of his "character."
while we’re at it....little Applebots explode..lol
Believe Planned Parenthood was Buffet’s ‘charity’; and Gates and Buffet, duly impressed - by each other.
Isaacson was the president of CNN NEWS for a very short and unsuccessful stint. Given that Fox ate his lunch, I might be dubious about this account, given that Jobs isn’t around to proof the galleys. Just sayin’.
I think the reaction here from some actually vindicates you....don’t apologize...they are saying about Gates exactly what they accuse you about doing about Jobs
I knew way back that Jobs denied his child including attempting to thwart a paternity suit by lying he was sterile.
Innovative yes...but that’s it....even he didn’t invent GUI though he did make nifty overpriced stuff with good graphics for folks who can stand going in the OWS crowd at a Mac store...personally I’d rather lick the toilet seat at Whole Foods
Sorry Rush and Mcbots here...I avoid the loonies...there is a reason 99% of Mac users are lefties and it’s all Hollywood ever show...the premier liberal status symbol like a Prius with COEXIST bumper sticker...they own and know Apple is them..Jobs included
Denying your spawn is unforgivable especially if you were adopted as Jobs was.
“Denying your spawn is unforgivable...”
The best part of an excellent post.
Where can I invest in the Sinaloa Cartel pray tell?
tks...I expect to be lumped in with Satan, John Wayne Gacey and Pee Wee Herman any minute