Skip to comments.With "Occupy" crackdowns commies/anarchists may try to provoke a "Kent State moment"...
Posted on 10/27/2011 7:13:25 AM PDT by ETL
Re: Occupy Wall Street, 2011
He [NYC Police Commissioner Ray Kelly] said that following Wednesday's [Oct 12, 2011] 10,000-strong union march, a much smaller group tried to storm police barricades at Wall Street and Broadway.
"They locked their arms. They counted down - 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. Then they decided to charge the police. That is going to be met with some physical force," Kelly said.
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Re: Kent State, 1969
"the purpose of all this agitation at Kent State was to recruit as much cannon fodder as possible, and then to provoke a "major confrontation." When it came, it would be neither accidental nor spontaneous. It would be exactly what the revolutionaries wanted.
On April 8, 1969, S.D.S. toughs marched through various campus buildings, disrupting classes as planned, chanting "Ho, Ho, Ho chi Minh," and striking campus police officers. One of these hoodlums pleaded nolo contendere to a charge of assault and battery, and drew a fine and jail sentence. The university scheduled a disciplinary hearing for two others on April sixteenth, at which time about one hundred revolutionaries smashed into the Music and Speech building where the hearing was being held, destroyed property, and again attacked police officers. Of the fifty-eight demonstrators arrested, ten were not even students at the school. At the rally preceding the march on the disciplinary hearing, non-student Jim Mellen told the audience as follows: "We're no longer asking you to come and help us make a revolution. We're telling you that the revolution has begun, and the only choice you have to make is which side you're on. And we're also telling you that if you get in the way of the revolution, it's going to run right over you." Mr. Mellen's remarks were included in a liberally distributed S.D.S. pamphlet, which began with a quotation from Mao Tse-tung and the following warning: "The war is on at Kent State University ...."
At a meeting in Williams Hall on April 28, 1969, revolutionary Communist Bernardine Dohrn said that people fighting "oppression" would have to carry weapons for "self defense." On May sixth, at another campus rally, Joyce Cecora called for armed rebellion: "They used guns at Cornell and they got what they wanted. It will come to that here!" And at still another rally on campus on May twenty-second, S.D.S. member Rick Skirvin said this: "We'll start blowing up buildings, we'll start buying guns, we'll do anything to bring this motherf***er down."
Michener quotes a student named Ken Tennant as follows: "With me it goes back to the music festival they held at Fred Fuller Park in September, 1969. Four Weathermen came down from Chicago, with insignia on their bib overalls. They were selling their organization newspaper, and I said, 'I'll buy a copy if you'll tell me what your outfit stands for.' They said, 'We're going to destroy this corrupt American society and build a better.' I asked how, and they explained, 'We've decided to close down schools all over the nation. We're going to start in Chicago. But we have our eye on Kent State, too. It could be ripe.' "
Bear in mind that we have room here to cite only a few examples of the inflammatory agitation and propaganda on the campus at Kent State for almost two years. The evidence establishesin the words of the revolutionariesthat the goal of S.D.S. was to provoke a violent confrontation in which somebody would be hurt, or even worse.
And the most incredible such example took place on April 10, 1970, when Jerry Rubin spoke on the campus at Kent State. Jerry Rubin is a Communist, of course. We can be absolutely sure of that because he has said so repeatedly. In fact he said he was a Communist when your reporter asked him about it at the Democrat National Convention in Miami in 1972. At that Convention Rubin also said that, when he and his Comrades take over, your reporter will be gassed. At Kent State, Communist Jerry Rubin said this: "The first part of the Yippie program is to kill your parents. And I mean that quite literally, because until you're prepared to kill your parents, you're not ready to change this country. Our parents are our first oppressors."
Your first reaction on reading a thing like this, of course, is that maybe I have taken it out of context. You refuse to believe that anybody would say this. But Rubin really told the students what you just read. It is important to remember that, at the time, Jerry Rubin was a convicted criminalhe had been convicted for leading the turmoil at the 1968 Democrat National Convention in Chicago, where terrorists attacked the policewhich raises the question of how such a man could be permitted to address students on a university campus in Ohio.**
Rubin also told the Kent State students to burn down the suburbs. "The American school system will be ended in two years," he explained. "We are going to bring it down. Quit being students. Become criminals. We have to disrupt every institution and break every law. We should have more laws so we can break them, too. Everybody should have their own law to break." As for the campus itself, Comrade Rubin told the students to ignore their professors, and to "burn all the books. It's quiet here now but things are going to start again."
The campus was now ready. Almost two years of intensive Communist propaganda had their effect. A sufficient number of students was willing to serve as cannon fodder for the revolutionary "cause." The Communists needed only an excuse to provoke their "major confrontation." Three weeks later they got their excuse.
"...it is important to quote at length from the state grand jury report on the affair: "Fifty-eight Guardsmen were injured by rocks and other objects hurled at them as they moved across the 'Commons' to Taylor Hall Hill and down to the practice football field, and were then forced to retreat .... it is clear that from the time the Guard reached the practice football field, they were on the defensive and had every reason to be concerned for their own welfare .... The circumstances present at that time indicate that 74 men surrounded by several hundred hostile rioters were forced to retreat back up the hill toward Taylor Hall under a constant barrage of rocks and other flying objects, accompanied by a constant flow of obscenities and chants such as 'Kill, Kill, Kill.' Photographic evidence has established, beyond any doubt, that as the National Guardsmen approached the top of the hill adjacent to Taylor Hall, a large segment of the crowd surged up the hill, led by smaller groups of agitators approaching to within short distances of the rear ranks of the Guardsmen.
"The testimony of the students and Guardsmen is clear that several members of the Guard were knocked to the ground or to their knees by the force of the objects thrown at them. ..."
MUCH MORE AT LINK:
"Gleeful about the raging riots that held England captive this week, the tweet has gone out to activists and disaffected youth to occupy wall street Sept 17 today. Social Networks FaceBook and Twitter are abuzz with plans for coming anarchy on U.S. soil.
The Days of Rage will continue beyond the occupation of Wall Street with activists being told bring your tent.
The original "Day(s) of Rage"
Days of Rage riots (1969)
The Days of Rage riots in Chicago took place over a 4-day period beginning October 8, 1969, after members of the Weathermen, a militant offshoot of the Students for a Democratic Society [SDS], converged on the city to confront police in the streets in response to the trial of the group of anti-Vietnam War activists known as the "Chicago Eight".
January 12, 2009:
Revolutionary ferment in Greece a taste of what is to come for the whole of Europe
A common Anarcho-Syndicalist flag.
In the early 20th century, anarcho-syndicalism arose as a distinct school of thought within anarchism. With greater focus on the labour movement than previous forms of anarchism, syndicalism posits radical trade unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the state with a new society, democratically self-managed by the workers.
Anarcho-syndicalists seek to abolish the wage system and private ownership of the means of production, which they believe lead to class divisions. Important principles include workers' solidarity, direct action (such as general strikes and workplace recuperations), and workers' self-management. This is compatible with other branches of anarchism, and anarcho-syndicalists often subscribe to anarchist communist or collectivist anarchist economic systems. Its advocates propose labour organization as a means to create the foundations of a non-hierarchical anarchist society within the current system and bring about social revolution.
A common Anarcho-Syndicalist flag.
"The raised fist (also known as the clenched fist) is a salute and logo most often used by left-wing activists, such as: Marxists, anarchists, socialists, communists, pacifists, trade unionists, and black nationalists. The raised fist is usually regarded as an expression of solidarity, strength or defiance."
Exclusive: Bill Ayers Talks About Election Night in Grant Park
From NBC Chicago, Jan 21, 2009:
Bill Ayers was "overflowing with happiness, relief, love" when he and his wife went to Grant Park with tens of thousands of Chicagoans to celebrate the election of President Barack Obama.
Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, spoke exclusively with NBC Chicago's Dick Johnson about why they joined the Election Night celebration in the park, where 40 years before they helped stage the Days of Rage riots.
The couple said they got last-minute tickets from a friend to be in Grant Park that night.
"I couldn't stop crying a couple of times. I found the exact spot where I was beaten 40 years ago," Ayers said. "But I've never been in a crowd that large that wasn't edged with either anger or drunkenness or gluttony, and it was really an extraordinary feeling."
"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
(note the red communist star, and anarcho-syndicalist red and black, on his shirt)
Bill Ayers: "I considered myself partly an anarchist then and I consider myself partly an anarchist now. I mean, I'm as much an anarchist as I am a Marxist which is to say I find a lot of the ideas in anarchism appealing."
"It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming 'community organizer,' had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working 'only to educate' both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers."
Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obamas circle: The same old America-hating Left
"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
--Bill Ayers (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:
Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
"Dig It. First they killed those pigs [ie, rich people], then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victims stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, referring to the Manson murders
Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
Undercover agent Larry Grathwohl discusses the Weather Underground's post-revolution governing plans for the United States:
"I asked, 'well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?' and the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers. And when I say 'eliminate,' I mean 'kill.' Twenty-five million people. I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. And they were dead serious."
Beware the U.S. 'day of rage' September 17
Anthony Martin, Conservative Examiner
August 21, 2011
In 1969 Leftwing domestic terrorist William 'Bill' Ayers, head of the group known as 'the Weathermen,' staged the 'days of rage' in Chicago during which acts of violence, mayhem, and destruction of property were conducted as a means by which Progressive extremists would not only protest American capitalism and the Viet Nam War but so disrupt the country that its economic and social system would crumble and be replaced by a Marxist and pacifistic model.
The fact that by definition an anti-war movement along with its promotion of pacifism disavows all violence for any purpose, good or bad, was totally lost on this gang of extremist militants who were more interested in pushing a Marxist, anti-Capitalist agenda than portraying a pacifistic mindset. Despite their many claims of 'peaceful protest and non-violent civil disobedience,' the Weathermen went on a rampage during which they ran wild in the streets wearing helmets, military gear, and wielding baseball bats and other weapons. All symbols of wealth and power were attacked, including parked cars, the apartments and property of the affluent, police officers, and 'rich' innocent bystanders.
Ayers called on the Marxist minions to kill their parents. By the end of the melee 400 militants were arrested and 60 victims were injured, some seriously. The group had also caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages to property.
By 1970 the Weathermen turned even more violent as they began to blow up buildings with bombs. Bombs were detonated in the U.S. Capitol Building, the Pentagon, and the New York City Police Headquarters, among others. The violence resulted in several deaths, including that of at least 2 police officers. To this day, neither Bill Ayers, nor his wife and co-domestic terrorist Bernadine Dohrn, have ever expressed the slightest hint of remorse for their actions. To the contrary, they have stated more than once that they would do it all over again and are sorry that they did not do even more.
On September 17 of this year yet another 'day of rage' is scheduled to occur in New York City on Wall Street, as once again the militant Marxist Progressives attempt to shut down the stock market and bring to ruin several large firms. The major difference between the days of rage of 1969 and the day of rage this September 17 is that today the Leftwing extremists have friends in very high places within the government. And the key players in this year's display of mayhem have a direct connection with those who staged the first event in 1969.
The usual suspects are involved--the union SEIU, former directors of ACORN, and other Leftist organizations that have come to the forefront of attention since the Presidential election of 2008. But as a special report published in 2003 in the Boston Globe indicates, the Weathermen are still active and do most of their work underground, well out of the public eye. Many believe that Ayers, Dohrn, Kathy Boudin, and other key players in the Weathermen are helping fuel the tensions leading to the various days of rage around the world.
For example, it is known that Ayers, Dohrn, and Jodi Evans of Code Pink form the driving force behind the so-called 'Peace Flotilla' that is aimed at breaching Israel's blockade of Gaza and provoking attacks. It is also curious to note that the flotilla's activities closely preceded the so-called Arab Spring and days of rage throughout the Middle East as extremists used the ruse of 'democratic protests' to oust dictators and usher in their own form of totalitarianism called 'Sharia Law.' Ayers is the original purveyor of the 'days of rage'--the originator and guru of the movement. The fact that these types of events are being staged all over the world, using the same name, is no coincidence.
I believe I read on Drudge that the thugs are calling for a ‘national strike’ on Nov. 2nd. *rolls eyes*
How can people ‘strike’ when there are so many unemployed? Geesh!
The plan is obviously to fan the flames until the pot boils over. It’s just a matter of where and when it will happen.
Liberals try to shoehorn just about every event into one of four historical patterns - the civil rights movement, Vietnam, Watergate, and later Florida 2000 election.
So they will try to re-enact the Vietnam protests by wishing for a Kent State moment with OWS.
Never mind the myopia that such an approach represents.
There is a big difference between law enforcement reactions to these kinds of street situations in 1970 and today. I don’t believe the general public will be so willing to accept the progressive narrative casting the rioters as victims.
I figured it would be obvious to most here (not everyone). Just wanted to get some details out on how the commies operate. And to link what's going on today with Obama and his commie ilk and their past activities/actions.
The provocation succeeded in Oakland.
Cliff Kincaid Confronts Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers over Weather Underground Terrorism:
LEOs can then collect the Trash ... errr, proteters with ease.
I don’t know if you have seen the videos of the police battling protestors in OAKLAND , that happened last night, but the protestors threw bottles, trash, m-80’s and bottle rockets at police, and the police used tear gas on them.
The protestors did everything they could to PROVOKE police into harming someone, so they could have their KENT STATE MOMENT.
Some of the m-80;s and bottle rockets hit the protestors and I suppose they will try to use that to claim someone was hurt by police.
Here’s what Kent State gave us:
Ohio then elected a guy named Gilligan, who ran as a Peace Democrat. He proceeded to try to raise taxes and was soundly defeated in his run for re-election.
His daughter, Kathleen, married the son of a Kansas Congressman and, in 2002, ran for Kansas Governor. Part of her campaign was touting what a beloved governor her father had been.
She’s now in charge of the Death Panels.
Democratic politicians are starting to realize their poll numbers are dropping, as more Americans see the protesters as the face of the Democratic Party. Therefore, I suspect, you will start to see Democratic politicians start to try to break up the demonstrations.
Re: What’s all this “liberal” stuff you mention?
Certainly most of the participants are mindless, clueless, gullible, stupid, liberals. But not the main organizers.
It has been my observation that someone in the protest crowd (likely a paid, commie plant) fired a shot to provoke the police to return fire.
It is an old tactic, and is being used again, because it is very effective.
It is not much different than the Muslims shooting at soldiers and hiding behind children.
Re: Liquid Banana Peal
Sounds like a winner to me! You should develop and market such a product. :)
Yes, agitators often run and hide behind the rest following some provocative action. They make sure they’re not the ones that are going to receive any retributions.
...they (the communist agitators) actually hope that some really harmless ‘useful idiot’ type gets taken out. Better PR for gaining wider support for the movement. And of course most folks, thanks largely to the lame street liberal snooze media and leftist ‘educators’ in our schools, don’t know beans about who or what is behind these things. So it usually works out quite well for the revolutionaries.
>>Liquid banana peel<<
The Japanese have it.
It's hard to convince the average person of this, they see the great tyrants of history as anomalies when in fact they are always there, waiting in the shadows.
God. Help. Us.
Thanks for the history lesson, Kanzan.
Yes, thanks for that important addition. I obviously needed to include that.
Lots of poseurs in that ilk. When they have to face the real manifestation of the policies they advocate, they always flinch. Theoretical revolutionaries are they.
It worked for Fidel, with Che. Killing Che, got rid of a major headache for Fidel, and at the same time gave him a "martyr" for his revolution.
Hitler bumped off his "Communists", the SA, once they were no longer useful to him.
It worked for Fidel, with Che. Killing Che, got rid of a major headache for Fidel
Che was anything but a "harmless useful idiot" type. He was a violent communist revolutionary.
Do you have links to those videos?
Above: Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov signs the Nazi-Soviet Non-aggression Pact while German Foreign Minister Von Ribbentrop and Soviet leader Stalin look on under a portrait of Lenin, August 23, 1939. News of the Pact stunned the world and paved the way for the beginning of World War Two with Hitler assured the Germans would not have to fight a war on two fronts.
"...at the time of the Nazi-Soviet Pact, the Communists suddenly transformed the 'Anti-Nazi League' into the "Hollywood Peace Forum," calling for American neutrality and using the slogan 'Let's Skip the Next War.'..."
--Ronald Radosh, from his book, Red Star Over Hollywood: The Film Colony's Long Romance With the Left
"[Pete] Seeger was antiwar during the period of the Nazi-Soviet Pact; pro-war after the Soviet Union was the ally of the United States; and anti-war during the years of the Cold War and Vietnam." --Ronald Radosh (former communist)
The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party (from the German Nazi, abbreviated from the pronunciation of Nationalsozialist), was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945. It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP) prior to a change of name in 1920.
National Health Care: Medicine in Germany 1918-1945 [Nazi health care]
Does the Modern Bureaucratization of Medicine Risk a Return to the Horrors of National Socialist Medicine?
by Marc S. Micozzi M.D.
Today we are concerned about issues such as doctor-assisted suicide, abortion, the use of fetal tissue, genetic screening, birth control and sterilization, health-care rationing and the ethics of medical research on animals and humans. These subjects are major challenges in both ethics and economics at the end of the twentieth century. But at the beginning of the twentieth century the desire to create a more scientific medical practice and research had already raised the issues of euthanasia, eugenics, and medical experimentation on human subjects. In addition, the increasing involvement of the German government in medical care and funding medical research established the government-medical complex that the National Socialists later used to execute their extermination policies. ..."
I would search for and posts such videos, but I don’t have time now. Gotta get ready to do something many of the “fleabaggers” at Wall Street rarely if ever do (by choice!): go to work!
You can just google ‘occupy oakland tear gas’
Or search on FR for OAKLAND. There was a thread last night.
Already available to law enforcement - makes it so there is nothing but slapstick comedy when rioters try to walk.
Also but I can not be sure but the cop that was thrown the grenade also had a grenade launcher there was a sound about the time he was hit that could have been the sound of a grenade launcher coming from that area.
I got this from a banned site (cant post his blog entries) but his name is U L S T E R M A N and you can easily find his blog. Anyway, a comment on a recent post pasted copied text out of a moveon.org email for everyone to see:
Its official they are planning an action against the banks. This will be their Reichstag fire moment, where some of the protesters will be persuaded to trash some banks, and the hope is that somebody gets hurt or killed in the process. Here it is direct from the horses [mouth]:
Dear MoveOn member,
Its time to Make Wall Street Pay in our communities.
The 99% protesters have brought incredible national attention to Wall Streets greed and the corporate capture of our democracy, and now a campaign to move our money out of the big banks is spreading virally online, with tens of thousands of people joining in.
So were going all in with a big day of action on November 5, picketing Wall Street banks at their Main Street branches all across the country. Well gather at banks across America to let them know that were moving our money and asking everyone whos part of the 99% to do the same.
Unless the big banks start investing in our communities again, and stop the mass foreclosures, charging of ridiculous new fees, and undercutting of any chance for economic renewal, its time for us to take our business elsewhere. The government bailed them outits up to us to call them out.
We need someone to lead a Make Wall Street Pay action against a local big bank branch in YOUR TOWN on November 5. Can you?
Thanks. I’ll read it more carefully tomorrow when I’m awake. 3:21 in the morning here in NY.