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Clinton: DOJ didn't give State a ‘heads up’ about Fast and Furious
The Hill ^ | 10/27/11 12:37 PM ET | By Joshua Altman

Posted on 10/27/2011 8:11:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told lawmakers Thursday that she had not been notified by the Justice Department about a botched, international gun-tracking program has been linked to the death of a Border Patrol agent.

Appearing before the House Foreign Affairs committee, Clinton was questioned by Rep. Connie Mack (R-Fla.) about the State Department’s involvement in the controversial Fast and Furious operation that has triggered hearings on Capitol Hill.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fastfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; mexico; obama; statedept; testify
There is a video of her testimony at the link.

Der Hilderbeats does not like to be questioned. Some things do not change.

Remember the Rose Law Firm testimony? and her answer? "I cannot recall."

1 posted on 10/27/2011 8:11:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

She’s lying. This time it may land her in prison.


2 posted on 10/27/2011 8:13:28 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Texas Fossil
Never mind that her "under the radar" fingerprints are all over it.
3 posted on 10/27/2011 8:14:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yeah, the DOJ forgot to inform her of actions that had “international incident” written all over them. Sorry, Hilly, I was born at night, but not last night.


4 posted on 10/27/2011 8:16:14 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: SatinDoll

I don’t think she is lying.

I believe the ATF & Justice jumped the shark with this whole mess.They did Obama’s bidding as ordered.


5 posted on 10/27/2011 8:18:44 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Texas Fossil

She is up to her saggy gobble gobble neck in F&F.


6 posted on 10/27/2011 8:19:16 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Messy stuff, this. Like trying to eat waffles without getting syrup on your fork and fingers.

She should be having flashbacks about now about Ft. Marcy Park and her retaliation lover..


7 posted on 10/27/2011 8:20:21 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Texas Fossil

Of course she isn’t ever to be believed.

About anything.


8 posted on 10/27/2011 8:21:56 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Texas Fossil

Eventually all these denials will trip them up
cause somewhere it’s in evidence.

It only takes one to make the stammering begin.


9 posted on 10/27/2011 8:22:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SatinDoll

I seriously doubt that the planners to this whole thing ever talked to the State Department at all. You would think...anything crossing US borders would have to be explained out...but I doubt they ever spoke. Same thing for the CIA keeping the state department informed. Same thing for the FBI keeping the state department informed.

The comical side of this is that when she did discover the whole picture...it was via TV news...not her staff or state department intelligence ‘squad’. Luckily, she watches CNN and at least got this info four days after Fox News started to cover it. If she watched MSNBC....she’d still be in the dark, and wondering what all this talk was about.


10 posted on 10/27/2011 8:23:46 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SatinDoll

Of course she is lying, her lips are moving.

And all Commies lie, it is in the DNA.


11 posted on 10/27/2011 8:24:18 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Venturer

I agree with you that she is most likely not lying. And that only makes things worse for the Obama (mal)administration, not better.


12 posted on 10/27/2011 8:24:31 PM PDT by Oceander (If Romney is the GOP nominee, then Obama wins in 2012, either directly or by proxy)
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To: Army Air Corps
Clinton: DOJ didn't give State a ‘heads up’ about Fast and Furious

Then how did the Secretary of State know exactly when to start making the complaint about "90% of the guns used by the cartels are coming from gun dealers and gun shows in the American Southwest."

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm???????

13 posted on 10/27/2011 8:25:38 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Venturer
They did Obama’s bidding as ordered.

Yep, they and she both did Obozo's bidding. The authorization for F&F and Castaway both originated from the White Hut at 1600 Penn. Ave.

14 posted on 10/27/2011 8:26:25 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
about a botched, international gun-tracking program

Why do they keep calling this a gun tracking program?

15 posted on 10/27/2011 8:29:04 PM PDT by umgud
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To: umgud
Why do they keep calling this a gun tracking program?

Because to admit otherwise indicates the true aim and source of this operation, crippling the 2nd Amendment and the White Hut at 1600 Penn Ave.

16 posted on 10/27/2011 8:31:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: okie01

Bingo.


17 posted on 10/27/2011 8:34:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: SatinDoll
She’s lying. This time it may land her in prison.

If their GD lips are moving, they're lying.

She says she don't know when the State Dept knew of Fast and Furious? Said the State Dept has no record of an international operation involving weapons transfer to murderers and terrorist gangs?

She tells him she has no knowledge or documentation, then says, "well give me some time, and I'll check into it and look further?"

Huh?

The freaking Secretary of State don't know if the GD State Department has knowledge of an international operation of shipping firearms across international borders to murderers and terrorist?

BTW, you's have a better chance of juggling flaming chain saws while roller skating, than this government prosecuting and sentencing Hillary to prison.

18 posted on 10/27/2011 8:38:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Venturer

I agree with you.

Hatred of the Hildebeast is no reason to be blind to the fact that by failing to notify the State Department of the intention to deliver arms to Mexican cartels, the Obama Justice Department has committed a crime. Hillary’s testimoney went a long way down the road to make that case.


19 posted on 10/27/2011 8:46:24 PM PDT by delacoert
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20 posted on 10/27/2011 8:51:25 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Texas Fossil
March 26, 2009. Hillary doing her part.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-clinton26-2009mar26,0,2128382.story

U.S. shares blame for Mexico drug violence, Clinton says Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, on a two-day visit to Mexico, accepts that the U.S. market for narcotics and a cross-border trade in U.S. guns contribute to Mexico's drug violence.

21 posted on 10/27/2011 8:53:13 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Texas Fossil
The “waiver” issue poses real problems for Holder. If DOJ didn't get the waiver (or didn't request a waiver) she should be really pissed — Oops, I forgot it's Hillary and evidently she didn't get pissed when the Slickster was getting BJs in the Oral Orifice.
22 posted on 10/27/2011 8:53:53 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: immadashell; umgud

Never forget what I said on the day of Obozo’s corronation (inauguration):

“Welcome to New Kenya (Africa U.S.A.)”

“Where the law of the jungle has replaced the Law of the Land.”

It is TIME to do something about it.


23 posted on 10/27/2011 8:59:29 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
Pure as the driven snow, Hildebeast was first to be cited in the press (I think around 2009) for asserting 'that most of the illegal guns come to Mexico from the USA.'

She laid the egg that started Fast and Furious!

24 posted on 10/27/2011 9:03:07 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: Rudder
Pure as the driven snow

Snow jobs won't work this time. hee hee hee

25 posted on 10/27/2011 9:10:17 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
Kankle’s meme, I don't remember, my mind is in a blender.
26 posted on 10/27/2011 11:47:21 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Texas Fossil
"Sorry, Senator, I don't recall. My brain it's Jello, Jello, Jello, Jello."
27 posted on 10/28/2011 1:44:32 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Democrats: the Party of NO!)
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To: SatinDoll

She is so obviously lying.


28 posted on 10/28/2011 2:00:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Venturer

She is lying AND people at the DOJ and ATF committed felonies.


29 posted on 10/28/2011 2:09:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SatinDoll

Oh, but there’s about zero chance she’s ever going to prison for anything.


30 posted on 10/28/2011 2:10:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
As the calendar year 2011 is now nearly at its end, and 2012 is an election year, to continue to put off issuing those subpoena ad testificandum actions regarding Fast and Furious to the DoJ, the State Department, and others, will just about suit everyone.

The GOP, now having the power to subpoena, does not want to look like they are playing politics with an issue that just might impact election outcomes, that is, an October 2012 Surprise.

So, once again, are there those who are indeed above the law?

31 posted on 10/28/2011 3:23:25 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: Texas Fossil

And yes Congressman, there is this Vast Right wing Conspiracy ,if there is some Reporter out there who would investigate it,would win a Nobel Prize


32 posted on 10/28/2011 3:40:37 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ballplayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJbCyiSXT78
This is exactly what she is doing, just like the rest of them.


33 posted on 10/28/2011 3:48:42 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: okie01

“Then how did the Secretary of State know exactly when to start making the complaint about “90% of the guns used by the cartels are coming from gun dealers and gun shows in the American Southwest.”
___________________________________________________________________________

Because the ATF’s 90% claim appeared in USA Today about a week before her statement.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-18-cartelguns_N.htm


34 posted on 10/28/2011 4:29:16 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Army Air Corps

Ping to #34


35 posted on 10/28/2011 4:31:11 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: dragnet2
She says she don't know when the State Dept knew of Fast and Furious?

She said she first heard of it in the press. But notice how differently she answered the second question....about the waiver.
IMO, the questioners should immediately CEASE using the term "Fast & Furious". I truly believe that she and others did NOT know about F&F......BY THAT NAME!!!!!

Anyone remember the dance that was done around the word "Whitewater" during the Banking Committee hearings in 95?

36 posted on 10/28/2011 4:46:57 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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37 posted on 10/28/2011 5:01:32 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: bcsco; All

Keep an eye on Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Obama has really pissed him off with the relentless attacks on him, and Joe is no stranger to D.C. politics. He played that game and won many years ago.


38 posted on 10/28/2011 6:00:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I just watched that video. What she issued was a non-denial denial.


39 posted on 10/28/2011 6:07:23 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: mewzilla

BTW, anyone know why the CIA is getting a pass on this issue? Just curious.


40 posted on 10/28/2011 6:08:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I saw a couple threads early in the week about Apaijo having some information on Obama or the administration that may be damaging. I understand he’s had his own investigation going on.


41 posted on 10/28/2011 6:11:40 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: bcsco

Arpaio, with the help of 3 other top notch investigators, are combing through Obama’s entire history with a fine toothed comb!


42 posted on 10/28/2011 6:25:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I hope they come up with some good stuff.


43 posted on 10/28/2011 6:40:13 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Roccus

Exactly! When dealing with the Clintons and their toadies, one must choose one’s words carefully.


44 posted on 10/28/2011 6:50:34 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: mewzilla

Remember Slick Willie’s what is the meaning of “is” statements.

Legal weasel words.


45 posted on 10/28/2011 6:56:00 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep, Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a sly old fox. Quiet, but effective. No bull.


46 posted on 10/28/2011 6:59:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yep!


47 posted on 10/28/2011 7:01:25 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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