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Why President Obama and His Advisers Are Absolutely Convinced He Will Be Re-elected In 2012
FOXNews ^ | 10-28-11 | Douglas E. Schoen

Posted on 10/28/2011 8:39:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf

President Obama and his team are quite optimistic they will win reelection in 2012, notwithstanding the bad poll numbers he is facing and the absolute collapse of confidence with Washington and indeed the American economy.

There are a number of reasons why the president and his advisers are so optimistic.

First, it is his judgment that with the horse race now tied for president, he has managed to weather the storm of a declining economy and declining confidence much better than he, or frankly most observers, would have expected.

(SNIP)

But what heartens the president's advisers is they believe they have locked into a strategy now that they are convinced can and will pay dividends.

First, they have largely given up on trying to work with Congress. With executive orders on housing and student loans, and a new slogan of "We can't wait!" the president and the Democrats are now arguing that gridlock in Washington is almost exclusively the Republicans' fault and that a "do nothing" Congress, whose rating fell as low as 9% in the most recent New York Times poll, and a Republican party whose negative rating is over 71%, will get the lion's share of the blame for inaction and dysfunctionality.

Second, the president looks at the Republican primary field and laughs, as he did on "The Tonight Show" with Jay Leno this week.

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"The White House believes that by adopting a populist mantle, embracing Occupy Wall Street and anti-Washington sentiment, that the incumbent can make himself into the outsider again.

And while this is a stretch, the Republicans have not been able to develop any sort of coherent message on either jobs, or on tax or budgetary policy or to distinguish themselves from the extraordinarily low ratings that the Congressional party and their leadership gathers."

Frankly, after the last debate, I can see why Obama thinks he's going to win again.

We are too busy FIGHTING EACH OTHER, to fight Obama and his willing sycophantic mainstream media...

The Dems can get away with OUTRIGHT LYING to the American people without fear of ever being called on it by the mainstream media. Why should he fear losing next year?

1 posted on 10/28/2011 8:39:41 AM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Why Obama will win:

Romney GOP nominee


2 posted on 10/28/2011 8:41:12 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: tcrlaf

the recipe:

comdrade fdr was reelected in 1936

even after he’d screwed the american people.


3 posted on 10/28/2011 8:44:18 AM PDT by ken21
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To: tcrlaf

Because the media is trying to make us believe that Herman Cain is in the lead, so that we won’t take Mitt too seriously then Mitt winds up being the GOP nominee and conservatives won’t hold their noses and vote for him. I don’t want to vote for him. What’s a conservative to do?


4 posted on 10/28/2011 8:46:44 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: tcrlaf
What else can they say?

"Gee, our guy is going to lose since everything he's trying to flush this country down the...."


5 posted on 10/28/2011 8:47:12 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: tcrlaf

66% of ADULTS oppose the prince’s plan to forgive student loans. He might want to think again.


6 posted on 10/28/2011 8:47:40 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: tcrlaf
Why Obama will win, probably:

The entitlement class might be disappointed with Obama (as seen in the latest polls), but they will never vote for a Republican.

As the entitlement class grows, so does Obama’s chances for reelection.

7 posted on 10/28/2011 8:49:02 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: ReneeLynn

“What’s a conservative to do?”

First and foremost a conservative does not allow a resentment-driven racist and socialist ideologue back into the White House, under any circumstances. We start there and build from there.


8 posted on 10/28/2011 8:49:44 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: tcrlaf

The ONLY way the Dems can win in 2012 is to make the election about the Republican Candidate and not Obama’s MISERABLE perforamce and anti-American agenda.

And Obama’s leftist allies in the Press and Romney’s Establishment Allies in the non-Democrat Press (FOX) are doing just that through these “debates” which are merely circular firing squads where Republicans aim at each other instead of the Marxist Menace in the Oval Office. The Media is making the issue about Bachmann, Cain, etc and not about Obama and no one, except perhaps Gingrich, is smart enough to realize it or acknowedge it.


9 posted on 10/28/2011 8:49:49 AM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: tcrlaf

Delusion has always been in Obuggery’s mindset since he took office and he has always been proven wrong. This time his luck has run out.


10 posted on 10/28/2011 8:50:10 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: ReneeLynn

You vote for the Republican, regardless of who it is, as we have got to get Obama out of office. And you fight for the most conservative senators & representatives possible, in the hope that they will push a RINO president in the right direction (if that’s what we end up with).

At least, that’s what I intend to do.


11 posted on 10/28/2011 8:50:34 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: tcrlaf

The issue in November 2012 will be the pocketbook.

If the Obama Admin can keep the seeming appearance of inflation low, they can probably pull out a win. They know they will get massive support from the MSM.

The GOP nominee better have a good game plan. So far, the candidates have been too busy shooting at each other to develop a realistic vision they can sell to the public.


12 posted on 10/28/2011 8:50:38 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: tcrlaf

Lot of wishful thinking and taking for granted going on in the White House and Congress. They’re still reeling from last November and are presupposing it can’t happen again if we demagogue republicans enough.

HORSE HOCKEY! This country is wide awake! And we’re working every precinct block.


13 posted on 10/28/2011 8:52:08 AM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Twotone

That choice really sucks. But I guess we do have to get rid of this current bunch of socialists. But geez, Romney?


14 posted on 10/28/2011 8:52:08 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: ReneeLynn
What’s a conservative to do?

Vote for the candidate who ends up being the Republican nominee or totally lose your country.

15 posted on 10/28/2011 8:52:21 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: tcrlaf

I guess we should just drop trou and take one up the rear for the party again huh... well **** romney. NOT THIS TIME!

LLS


16 posted on 10/28/2011 8:52:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: jersey117

Yeah, another election of picking one stinker over another.


17 posted on 10/28/2011 8:53:44 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: tcrlaf
We are too busy FIGHTING EACH OTHER

Ummm, isn't that what a primary is for?

18 posted on 10/28/2011 8:54:55 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: tcrlaf

When that bus hits the reality wall it’s going to be ugly!


19 posted on 10/28/2011 8:56:14 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: tcrlaf
"The White House believes that by adopting a populist mantle, embracing Occupy Wall Street and anti-Washington sentiment, that the incumbent can make himself into the outsider again.

Embracing Occupy Wall Street.

How nice that this "spontaneous movement" just popped up in time to become a central theme of the Obama Re-election Campaign. This seems to me to be one of the great coincidences in the history of the world. Amazingly, the MSM seems not to have noticed.

20 posted on 10/28/2011 8:56:19 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: tcrlaf; All

Hussein has his cult and the media....the same thing, basically. The cult will repeat his lies, and amplify them. But they cannot make prosperity out of nothing.

I will work to elect the Republican nominee, and I am not alone.

By any objective standard, Hussein is the worst occupier of the Oval office in 160 or more years. We have to work together to ensure he won’t stay there another four.

RD


21 posted on 10/28/2011 8:56:37 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Leaning Right
“As the entitlement class grows, so does Obama’s chances for reelection. “

Ultimately the ‘entitlement class’ can only exist until the rest of society stops agreeing to keep paying the bills. The domination of society by an entitlement class will always only last for a finite period, after which the earners will quit funding them. In the USSR this happened because the productive members of society just quit being productive. Once that happened it was only a matter of when the end of the USSR would come, not if. The other way this can happen is if the earners just refuse to pay into the treasury. That's very extreme, but so is government confiscation and redistribution of the fruit's of one’s labors. Hopefully sanity will prevail and we will get back to the roots of what has always made the US exceptional.

22 posted on 10/28/2011 8:57:39 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: tcrlaf

No need for Obama to be re-elected.

One scenario is the removal of essentially all the American troops from Iraq and Afghanistan by the end of 2011 as Obama has indicated. Iran is in the process, and will continue to fill the power void and Jihadists will control almost every country from Afghanistan to the Atlantic Ocean by election time.
Therefore, Obama will “have to” impose Extreme Measures in the United States, disband Congress, suspend elections and rule by authority of the Directorate of the “His People”.


23 posted on 10/28/2011 8:57:52 AM PDT by BilLies (ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hates your Traditional American guts!)
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To: jwalsh07

He doesn’t care. His coalition will benefit from the inculcated students who _think_ they *won* something. They are counting on waivers and incremental decreases in the number of years before forgiveness and so are their parents.

If the conservatives and the GOP think anyone on the left votes rationally, they are deluded. They vote tribally. They vote against *the other*. They vote in *solidarity*.

The only way for the anti-leftists to win is to adopt the same tribalism and to not ever sit home because the nominee is not to their liking.

If the choice is 4 years of Romney or a 4-year double-down by zer0 followed by an Emmanuel administration and you think there is no difference, then, hopefully, you are prepared for living through the outcome.

IMO, we have passed the point where principled people can make a difference on our side. The opposition has no principles except to win, so they likely will.


24 posted on 10/28/2011 8:57:52 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Amen.


25 posted on 10/28/2011 8:58:25 AM PDT by NYpeanut
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To: tcrlaf
The primary reason is that by election day there will be more parasites than producers.

Secondary reasons are the nominating history of the Republican Party and the efforts that the main stream media will make to keep him in office.

26 posted on 10/28/2011 8:58:30 AM PDT by sport
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To: ken21

I just don’t understand our republican establishment in supporting mitt romney ! If we have a clear conservative candidate and we all fall behind him, we can just defeat Obama in a land slide. Instead, each of these primary candidates are just beating one another. Look what they did with Rick perry. Michelle Bachmann could not wait to destroy Rick in the first & second debate, screwing up Rick perry chance and Michelle Bachmann chance. So, they both were out

Now, everyone is piling up on Hermann Cain(people like karl rove should be ashamed) and mitt romney goes to ohio and flip flops like a stupid person.

In the meanwhile Rick sanatorum with all his experience is just there and nobody gives even a look at him. Gingrich is a great intellectual and he is doing en excellent job but he has baggage.

We don’t have to talk about Paul or Huntsmann

So, what are we supposed to do?

Wait for the Vice president candidate to save the day?

Is it Bobby Jindaal or Marco Rubio or paul Ryan?

Needs to be one of them. My preference will be Marco Rubio !


27 posted on 10/28/2011 8:58:36 AM PDT by Ranjit
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To: COUNTrecount

BINGO!!


28 posted on 10/28/2011 8:59:34 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: tcrlaf

Republicans gave him a $2.4T slush fund by raising the debt ceiling.

Of that money we don’t have but he’s authorized to spend, and he will spend it long before the election, he needs a mere 0.05% of it to find its way back to his election fund to give him a $1B war chest.

As such, he’s busy buying votes with executive orders using that slush fund, and giving money to supporters who will see to it an innocent fraction thereof finds its way back to his campaign treasury.

And our best option is aligning campaign appearances with his book tour.


29 posted on 10/28/2011 9:00:16 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: tcrlaf

So, basically, they think their SLOGANS can win an election?!

Well, maybe they are right, a SLOGAN certainly did last time! And that is damn well all we got for a President is a SLOGAN and a worthless piece of trash.


30 posted on 10/28/2011 9:00:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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31 posted on 10/28/2011 9:01:09 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: tcrlaf
>The Dems can get away with OUTRIGHT LYING to the American people without fear of ever being called on it by the mainstream media.<

Exactly right. They have been getting away with it for decades. In order for a Republican to win the presidency, he has to overcome a lying democrat, a lap-dog media and let's not forget voter fraud in all 50 states.

32 posted on 10/28/2011 9:02:04 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: ReneeLynn

lets trade one stinking lib who hates the country for another who likes it. /s


33 posted on 10/28/2011 9:02:41 AM PDT by omega4179 (We can't wait! for the end of an error.)
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To: tcrlaf

If we nominate Romney, I am convinced too that Obama wins ... in a landslide.


34 posted on 10/28/2011 9:04:08 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

That took 70 years and it is moot because the nomenkultura just morphed into the crony capitalistic oligarchy. Russia then took near militaristic steps to leverage their oil and gas into a stranglehold on Europe, starting with their own former captive Soviet Socialist Republics.

When the producers go on strike, the elitists simply confiscate their means of production and can do so under the color of *law*....once they change the laws.

The USSR did not vanish, it simply altered its identity.


35 posted on 10/28/2011 9:04:51 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: tcrlaf

There might not be an election. If Obambi keeps getting away with ignoring Congress, there will be no need of one.


36 posted on 10/28/2011 9:05:03 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: tcrlaf

Obama will be reelected because the conditions that led to his election in the first place have not been reversed.

Republicans and Democrats agree that the purpose of the State is redistribution. How much, and to whom, and under what circumstances, there are disagreements. But no elected officials of either Party believe that it is wrong to take from you and give to another of their own choosing, for reasons that make sense to them.

Republicans and Democrats agree that you have “rights” - lots of them. They also agree that any question ABOUT your “rights”, or whether or not something IS a “right”, should not be decided by a political process because that is “divisive”. So, they both agree that the voice of “the People” as contemplated in Articles IX and X can only be voiced by nine unelected life tenure judges, and that five of them, at any time or for any reason, can give new “rights” and take away old ones, particularly if those old ones arise out of majority voting.

Republicans and Democrats all believe in “diversity”. They, ignoring completely the results of all social science research on this subject, and contrary to millennia of human experience and wisdom, believe that the more “diverse” our country, its institutions, and any private entities within her become, the more cohesive and productive we will become.

Republicans and Democrats almost all believe in “free trade” and “immigration”. These things are good for various constituencies of both parties while they wreck the economy and the nation.

In order to win elections in Republican districts, the candidates have to pretend that they don’t believe these things. But Obama isn’t pretending.

To paraphrase Harry Truman, “given the choice between a socialist and a socialist, the people will choose the real socialist every time.”


37 posted on 10/28/2011 9:05:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: ReneeLynn
I know I'm not voting Romney in the primaries and I hope he doesn't get the nomination. But now that we know what obama is capable of and in light of the bold moves by the commie/socialist/anarchist uprising, I'm not willing to risk losing my country under another 4 years of obama -- no matter who our nominee is. Obama is heavily promoting asset redistribution, has taken over banking, student loans, the auto industry, EPA, forever changed our military, changed the definition of marriage, is poisoning our children's minds by pushing the gay agenda.

This isn't the run of the mill "lesser of two evils" election. This election is against one evil and if we don't stop it the country will be lost.

38 posted on 10/28/2011 9:06:06 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: kcvl

I believe that they are counting on the republican Party to win the election for them. After the Republican Convention, if Mitt is the nominee, an obama win will be guranteed.


39 posted on 10/28/2011 9:06:12 AM PDT by sport
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To: tcrlaf

Zero’s continued occupation of the White House is a strong possibility because of only one thing: Massive Vote Fraud.

End of discussion.


40 posted on 10/28/2011 9:07:27 AM PDT by Wordkraft
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To: tcrlaf

***Second, the president looks at the Republican primary field and laughs, as he did on “The Tonight Show” with Jay Leno this week.***

At a news conference, I remember Obama also laughed when the freshmen (tea party) republican folks that were voted in in 2010 were going to defund/eliminate obamacare. Well, I haven’t heard a peep out of them or anyone else (about obamacare) for quite some time. Looks like it’s full speed ahead.

Since Tokio Rove is doing whatever he can to get real conservatives out of the way so his boy Mitt can get the nomination, it seems to me Obama has a lot to laugh about.


41 posted on 10/28/2011 9:08:35 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Doesn't anyone love liberty anymore?)
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To: ReneeLynn

Well, at least he is ‘flippable’. While that often works against us, with the right pressure it can work for us.


42 posted on 10/28/2011 9:08:57 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: tcrlaf
"We can't wait!"

To make things worse!

43 posted on 10/28/2011 9:10:36 AM PDT by depressed in 06 ( Where is the 1984 Apple Super Bowl ad when we need it?)
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To: tcrlaf

We need Paul Ryan to enter the race.


44 posted on 10/28/2011 9:11:44 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: tcrlaf

45 posted on 10/28/2011 9:12:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: tcrlaf

They also believe that they will retake the House (Dem + 30 seats-Welcome back Speaker Pelosi), and pick up 2-4 Senate seats. Then Reid will move to have filibusterers broken by 53 votes.


46 posted on 10/28/2011 9:17:49 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: tcrlaf
Obama will be reelected if the banks believe he will give them more of what they want than Romney will. If he shows signs of reverting to his Communist past or stirring up disruptive Rodney King-style riots just to hang onto his throne, then they'll shift to Romney and take Obama out very quickly via the media. So I expect Obama to take a conciliatory, moderate tone rather than the radical approach depicted in the article. He has to play moderate Republican like Clinton did, or his benefactors will spank him. What the radical Left thinks about that really doesn't matter - none of them will dare oppose the Holy Half-Black Chief.

Nothing will change if Romney is chosen, except we'll have a President who isn't actively trying to make the white middle class disappear and die. Sentiment might improve - for a while.

47 posted on 10/28/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: tcrlaf
Why President Obama and His Advisors Are Absolutely Convinced He Will Be Re-elected In 2012:
48 posted on 10/28/2011 9:22:46 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: RIghtwardHo

Silly proclamation and based on nothing but emotion.


49 posted on 10/28/2011 9:24:20 AM PDT by Dave W
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To: pieceofthepuzzle; Twotone; Leaning Right

Largely agree, and your thinking gets to some root causes and issues.

I think it is key that our nominee be someone who can discuss the basic principles involved, their history and importance to us today, and in the future. Someone who can explain and connect underlying (conservative) principles for the well-being and future character of our nation.

If our failure comes as the world’s leading nation, it will come because we have ceased to be a moral (and I say, unabashedly, Judeo/Christian), informed, and self-reliant people.

We need leaders and candidates who can explain that, make it understandable, real, and personal to the population at large.


50 posted on 10/28/2011 9:26:07 AM PDT by MarineDadNavyVet
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