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In Defense of the 1%(Peter Schiff takes on OWSers)
Safe haven /Europacific Capital ^ | Oct 28, 2011 | Peter Schiff

Posted on 10/28/2011 6:43:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs

Last week, I spent the afternoon visiting the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations in lower Manhattan. I brought a film crew and a sign that said "I Am The 1%, Let's Talk." The purpose was to understand what was motivating these protesters and try to educate them about what caused the financial crisis. I went down there with the feeling that much of their anger was justified, but broadly misdirected.

Indeed, there were plenty of heated discussions. I did little more than ask how much of my earnings I should be allowed to keep. In return, I was called an idiot, a fool, heartless, and selfish. But when we started talking about the issues, it seemed like the protesters fell into two categories: those who generally understood and agreed that Washington caused this mess, and those who could only recite Marxist talking points. It was the latter who usually resorted to calling names once I pointed out the hypocrisy of their positions. They might shout, "the banks have taken over the regulatory agencies, so we need more regulations!" Obviously, this is paradoxical. If they're blaming government for causing this problem, why would they suggest more government as the solution?

I think some of the leadership of Occupy Wall Street comes from this kind of radical Marxist background - and perhaps they're smart to intentionally keep quiet about their goals. Because the vast majority of protesters I met did believe in capitalism - they're just tired of being screwed over by crony capitalism. Noted school-choice activist Michael Strong calls it "crapitalism," and that's what it is. It's a rotten deal for everyone, and they know it.

The problem is that many of these people are under the mistaken impression that Wall Street banks are to blame for this state of affairs. That's like blaming the dogs for getting into the trashcan. Sure, it's bad behavior, but the ultimate responsibility lies with the authority figures - in this case, Washington. After all, it's not the New York metro area that has benefitted the most from this crisis. Rather, the counties around DC are now ranking as the wealthiest in the country. And while wealthy New Yorkers have historically made their living providing essential financial services to the global economy, Washington has always made its living one way: at our expense.

That's why I have trouble sympathizing with people calling themselves the "99%", implying they stand in opposition to wealth no matter how it's earned. I own a brokerage firm, but I didn't receive any bailout money. In fact, I have to work twice as hard to compete with bigger financial firms that are propped up by the US government. The least I deserve is the ability to keep what I earn.

Remember, if the IRS weren't taking so much from the wealthy who have earned it, there would be that much less for Wall Street bailouts. A hundred years ago, major banks had no business lobbying Washington, because compared to their free-market earnings, the government simply didn't have that much money to dole.

The other tool the government didn't have to use against us back then was the Federal Reserve. Even if we drastically reduce taxes, the Fed might decide to do what it has been doing: printing money to finance government profligacy. This acts as a secret tax on everyone with a bank account, and is critical in transferring wealth from hardworking Americans to politically connected elites. So, really, the protests shouldn't be on Wall Street but around the corner on the ironically named Liberty Street, site of the New York Federal Reserve Bank - the heart of this dishonest system.

Until these twin sources of financial oppression are brought under control, the average American's standard of living will most likely continue to fall, more jobs will leave for increasingly capitalist emerging markets, and more young kids will be left with nothing better to do than block traffic.

One common refrain I heard at the protests was that our problems result from the rich not paying enough taxes. Most feel that economy was better when marginal tax rates were higher, and that lower rates are a cause of financial decline. Forget about the faulty logic of this assumption, it ignores two key points. First, while it's true that marginal tax rates were much higher after World War II, the tax code also used to contain many allowances and exceptions, such that very few people actually paid the nominal rate. Second, prior to 1913, the rich paid no income taxes at all; yet, lower- and middle-class living standards rose much faster in the 19th century than in the 20th!

Overall, I think there was a real lack of understanding of basic economic principles among the Occupiers. Protesters thought that the rich owed a duty to share their wealth with society. However, they failed to see that in true capitalism, the rich can only acquire their wealth by serving others. No one succeeds in a vacuum. Consider the late Steve Jobs. He became a billionaire by sharing his wealth. Think about the millions of people around the world whose lives are vastly better because of Apple products. Think of all the Apple employees who benefit from high-paying jobs he created. Think about all those investors who made money from Apple stock. Steve Jobs shared his wealth with the entire planet before he ever paid one dime in taxes. In fact, any money Steve Jobs did pay in taxes likely prevented him from creating and sharing even more wealth. Had Jobs tried to hoard his wealth instead, he never would have acquired it in the first place. Of course, the idea that Occupy Wall Street protesters have a right to share directly in the private profits earned by others is immoral. The protesters were correct in being outraged by having to share in Wall Street's losses. But if they do not want to share the losses, they have no right to demand a share of the profits! One protester equated the low wages paid by Wal-Mart to slavery, yet thought the government should take 70% of my income. In the case of Wal-Mart, employees are free to choose other jobs. What choice would I have when faced with a 70% income tax? They call it "slavery" when Wal-Mart offers workers better opportunities than they could find elsewhere, and "justice" when government enslaves me by forcibly taking 70% of the fruits of my labor. Another protester challenged my claim that businesses create jobs by stating that consumers create the jobs by spending money. When I asked him where the consumers got their money, he replied "from their jobs," which actually proved my point. Without jobs, consumers have no purchasing power. And without production, there is nothing to purchase.

I'm calling for these protesters to educate themselves on the causes of the current financial decline and not to waste their time attacking the wrong target. They have every right to be angry, but also an obligation to be part of the solution. Yes, I am the 1% - but I've earned every penny. Instead of trying to take my wealth away, I hope they learn from my example.


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To: Pining_4_TX; sickoflibs; All

” The problem with 9-9-9 is that the politicians are not going to keep those numbers at 9 for long. Herman is adding a new tax, and inevitably, they will all increase. Reagan fell for the Democrats’ promises when he accepted the elimination various deductions in exchange for lower rates. Well, didn’t stay lower, and the deductions were not restored. “

TEXAS WINS THE KEWPIE DOLL !

Reagan cut the top individual tax rate to 28%. The scumbag politicians and libs eventually raised it to 39%. Cutting taxes at any given time does not preclude the future criminal politicians from raising them back!


21 posted on 10/29/2011 4:04:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
RE :”The problem with 9-9-9 is that the politicians are not going to keep those numbers at 9 for long. Herman is adding a new tax, and inevitably, they will all increase

That's an easy to debunk argument.

Obama still has not successfully raised the income tax, instead he extended Bush tax cuts. He had two years with the supermajority to do it where Republicans couldnt stop it.

The federal gas tax has not been raised in 18 years since Clinton did 1993.

Democrats did start taxing lots of new things never taxed before in Obama-care.

Democrats will still want the same taxes they do no raised regardless of any new tax replacing the old. So the above is NOT a valid reason to improve our system taxing consumption instead of production.

22 posted on 10/29/2011 11:35:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: kingu

The use of the 99/1 is to begin the tactic of isolating groups of people and making them feel pitted against an angry mob.

The implied message is, “We have you outnumbered and we have you surrounded. Come out with your hands up and your pockets empty or we will come in and take whatever we want.”

Expect to see the same tactic played out in different “mob scenarios.” The racial mob will be sure to be employed next year if it looks like Obammie the Commie will not win.

Other mob scenarios will include the union mob, the homo mob, and the multi-culti mob.


23 posted on 10/29/2011 11:38:41 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Karl Denninger has jumped the shark. Do not visit his blog.))
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I’ve been thinking for a while that we should change the meme of what we complain about in paying taxes. Many of us in the 53% who do pay taxes actually have 9-5 40 hour a week jobs. Many of us own businesses, are on salary, or work a lot of over time or have more than one job...so I would guess that a very large percentage of us work well over 40 hours a week. Especially for the business owners, and salary people, who get paid basically the same no matter how many hours are worked, which means there per hour payment becomes less and less the more hours they work.

The point is, we should not be complaining necessarily about the number of dollars we have to contribute to welfare moms squirting out babies, we should complain about how much of our time these people think they have a right to.

Let’s say 20% of your income goes to support these people. If you work 40 hours, that is 8 hours (or one full work day of your time). If you work 80 hours, then that makes 16 hours of your time. And so on. So the question is if I work 80 hours in a week, why does somebody feel they have a right to 16 hours (or two “Normal” work days)? Otherwise stated, 9.5% of all of my time during an entire week (including sleeping), is for the benefit of enormous women with obnoxious children to fill up the shopping carts with steaks and junk food. And since I am on salary, the more hours I work, the higher percentage of my time goes to freeloaders.

So the question should be how much of my time do other people think they have a right to.


24 posted on 10/29/2011 11:41:39 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Pining_4_TX
RE :” The problem with 9-9-9 is that the politicians are not going to keep those numbers at 9 for long. Herman is adding a new tax, and inevitably, they will all increase. Reagan fell for the Democrats’ promises when he accepted the elimination various deductions in exchange for lower rates. Well, didn’t stay lower, and the deductions were not restored. “ TEXAS WINS THE KEWPIE DOLL !

Obama still has not successfully raised the income tax, instead he extended Bush tax cuts. He had two years with the super majority to do it where Republicans couldn't stop it.

The federal gas tax has not been raised in 18 years since Clinton did 1993.

Democrats did start taxing lots of new things never taxed before in Obama-care.

Democrats will still want the same taxes they do no raised regardless of any new tax replacing the old. So the above is NOT a valid reason to improve our system taxing consumption instead of production.

Democrats hate the idea of a sales tax replacing the income tax because it's not progressive even if it is a more productive tax. It is interesting to see Republicans joining Democrats against it.

25 posted on 10/29/2011 11:43:37 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: sickoflibs
RE:"Of course Schiff is correct. But what good does it do to argue with Idiots?"

Because he does it on camera and shows millions of people around the world that the OWS protesters are idiots.

Yes, this is exactly what I said in the last sentence:

But this video is good because it reveals just what types of idiots are in this OWS movement.

Note the use of question mark. This is a rhetorical question to which I answered in the next few sentences. This video was meant to show the viewer just what type of degenerates are in the OWS movement. Schiff is a bright guy and he knows that trying to change the minds (if these people even have minds) of these protesters is an exercise in futility (to use a worn out expression). So I think we are of the same mind on this.
26 posted on 10/29/2011 12:32:45 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; Gilbo_3

Schiff and Daniel Hannan (conservative English parliament member and author) discuss the European and USA debt on Huckabee (fox news) this weekend. We have the TV muted because my wife is asleep now but it looks pretty good. It shows Schiff in the midst of the OWS hooligans too. Repeats Sunday night.


27 posted on 10/30/2011 12:33:01 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I’ll check out Daniel’s writings, thanks.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 4:57:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I can heartily recommend this one.....

The New Road to Serfdom: A Letter of Warning to America [Paperback] Daniel Hannan (Author)

29 posted on 10/30/2011 6:07:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: mewzilla

I will read it, and thanks much.


30 posted on 10/30/2011 6:21:05 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; Gilbo_3
When he started getting media attention because of the following speech in 2009, he mocked himself by saying he couldn't think of a more boring topic than a speech to the European Parliament.

Youtube link: "You have run out of our money!"

31 posted on 10/30/2011 7:23:26 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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