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McCain eyes barring retirees from Tricare Prime (McCain stabs America's veterans in their backs)
Navy Times | 2011-10-25 | Rick Maze

Posted on 10/28/2011 7:18:14 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 112th; backstabbermccain; healthcare; mccain; mccain4obama; mccaintruthfile; mcstain; military; rino; tricare; veterans

1 posted on 10/28/2011 7:18:20 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

As if the rate hikes at Tricare haven’t been bad enough?


2 posted on 10/28/2011 7:20:18 PM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: rabscuttle385
I was going to post with this question: "What purpose does McCain serve?"

But now I see from the graphic that his job is to pleasure Barack Obama.

3 posted on 10/28/2011 7:21:03 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand
My friends, my friends...it's OK, he's a MaverickTM.
4 posted on 10/28/2011 7:24:34 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: rabscuttle385

ping


5 posted on 10/28/2011 7:24:34 PM PDT by ImNotLying (Politicians and diapers should be changed often and for the same reason!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I’m speechless.


6 posted on 10/28/2011 7:27:25 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Hey, AZ! I see McQueeg has snapped right back to his pre-election, liberal old self.

Thirty silver coins for him turn on his fellow servicemen and women?

7 posted on 10/28/2011 7:27:41 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: rabscuttle385

What a POS Juan McCain is. Getting (and paying premiums for, by the way) tricare prime for my husband and I, was one of the reasons my husband stayed in until retirement. Again I say...what a POS!


8 posted on 10/28/2011 7:29:33 PM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence)
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To: rabscuttle385

I wonder what his Academy classmates think of him now. Bought and paid for many times over ... I doubt a lot of prostitutes has been used as regularly, cheaply and badly as McCain.


9 posted on 10/28/2011 7:35:19 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

AZ voters love this guy...And I thought AZ had brains.


10 posted on 10/28/2011 7:38:22 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: rabscuttle385

Well, this piece of dog dung doesn’t need it. He married his healthcare program.

John McCain is a perfect example of the dictum that a traitor is worse than an enemy - a RINO is worse than a Democrat.


11 posted on 10/28/2011 7:48:59 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I was going to post with this question: “What purpose does McCain serve?”

Well, there isn’t enough of him to scrap dog dung off the bottom of your shoes (his only conceivable useful purpose), so I guess his only function is to occupy a Republican Seat and stab Republicans, Americans and Veterans in the back.


12 posted on 10/28/2011 7:51:38 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: Jane Long

Jane, he has been doing that his entire career. He totally abandoned the POWs, he is a disgusting man and he spent $20 million to defeat JD Hayworth. He didn’t just defeat the man, he destroyed him. There is a special place in hell being warmed up for John McCain.


13 posted on 10/28/2011 8:00:35 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: ZULU

It’s not just the deal he married into, the POS also has his Senate plan which none of them will touch.


14 posted on 10/28/2011 8:02:00 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: McGavin999
figures, just as my husband is nearing Tricare age, and we really need it because right now I pay several hundred dollars for him alone each month...and he's rarely sick...

I fully believe that changes need to be made in military benefits...for one, not paying retirement pensions until age 60, which is good enough for the guard and reserve, and almost all of those guys have active years in the past....

I wish we had a bold president who would demand that all of congress and all of the federal govt including the president himself will be under the same no frills health plans....right now, we know who's getting the shaft and it ain't them....

15 posted on 10/28/2011 8:07:21 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Jane Long

Somebody got taken, he would have done it for one piece of silver.


16 posted on 10/28/2011 8:25:28 PM PDT by Seanm (PANDER: Obama now opposes repealing healthcare program he suspended last week... DIRTY: Says Republ)
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To: rdl6989
This is no surprise.
This is who he always was.
People who supported him, had to try to explain crap like this away in their minds.

Puts me in an “I told you so” mood.
Think I will go visit some McCain voters from 2008 and point out that they are getting exactly the policies they voted for if this goes through.

17 posted on 10/28/2011 8:28:38 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: rabscuttle385

bttt


18 posted on 10/28/2011 8:55:09 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (The Tea Party outnumbers the Flea Party!)
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To: G Larry

Everyone’s rates have gone up. Join the club.


19 posted on 10/28/2011 8:56:37 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: rabscuttle385

Don’t blame me. I voted for Hayworth.


20 posted on 10/28/2011 9:02:14 PM PDT by ScoopAmma (We are led by the Resident -in Chief; aka part-time member of Webelo Troop 44)
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To: cherry

The first Bush started cutting vet benefits and every president since has followed suit. I was at a VA Hospital this morning and due to the economy it seems to be more crowded everytime I go.


21 posted on 10/28/2011 9:03:04 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Where is the OPPOSITION party? I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: McGavin999

And he can’t get there fast enough for me.


22 posted on 10/28/2011 9:18:31 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain is one sorry backstabbing traitor trash POS.


23 posted on 10/28/2011 9:30:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: rabscuttle385

McCain’s old man would bitch-slap John around the Beltway if he were alive ...

My Grandfather and Father had [and I have] a combined 66 years of service to America. And I figure that we only cost the US about $600K in combined salaries for service ...

And McCain wants to renege on military healthcare ??? The friggin’ swine ...


24 posted on 10/28/2011 10:10:03 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Nooooo, he’s an IDIOT!


25 posted on 10/28/2011 10:18:58 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: G Larry

The point is, though, that the money is not there. People have voted for politicians who promised them the moon and now the country is broke. This is only the beginning of cuts that will have to be made. Nobody is going it like it, but it’s reality.


26 posted on 10/28/2011 10:26:22 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Veterans should be taken care of fully before one penny is allocated to anything else. Period.

McCain thinks we have money for this...

McCain urges more US help for wounded Libyans (Big Government™ Alert)

John McCain on Kadafi: U.S. must now deepen Libyan ties (McCainiac Mark Kirk praises Hillary, Obama)

U.S. Sen. John McCain: Could it be time to intervene in Syria?

27 posted on 10/28/2011 10:30:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

No, the money is not there, even for that. The country really is broke. With the large number of wounded veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, the costs are going to explode over the coming decades. I understand people’s anger over this, but all the promises made to veterans (and everybody else) over the years cannot be kept.

Anyone who believes he can rely on government for help is going to be sorely disappointed. Pols pay lip service to veterans, but they have no more concern for them than they do anyone else.


28 posted on 10/28/2011 10:41:41 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I see. But we have money to rebuild Libya and intervene in Syria. Got it.


29 posted on 10/28/2011 10:43:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Hey, we don’t have money for anything. Everything that is being spent now is borrowed or printed. It doesn’t seem to matter what the people want. The politicians are doing whatever they want. It’s insane.


30 posted on 10/28/2011 10:45:10 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

The truth is we actually have a lot of money. Spending is the problem and military expenditures are the least of it.


31 posted on 10/28/2011 10:55:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
But we have money to rebuild Libya and intervene in Syria.

Don't forget the $600M for Solyndra and the $1.5B for those other 2 solar companies awarded recently ...

32 posted on 10/28/2011 11:26:14 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Lmo56
Heck! we could go back and forth for days naming useless wasteful expenditures of money before we even got to one that had a little merit. Even then most of them have no justification for being federal expenditures.

But the military is under the Constitutional mandate to provide security and our vets, at minimum, should have their health care taken care of. As a debt of honor to them not an entitlement.

33 posted on 10/28/2011 11:38:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: rabscuttle385

What a complete a$$.... I have lost what little respect I had left for this sell out. He mine as well switch parties. The guy is back stabbing Vets. What a jerk!


34 posted on 10/29/2011 2:19:47 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

The sun out there must have baked their brains.
McCain is the GOPs Johns Murtha.
We all wish him a early retirement so he can puruse his hobby of rubbing gravel in hs hair and foaming at the mouth.


35 posted on 10/29/2011 2:43:41 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Sprite518
What a complete a$$.... I have lost what little respect I had left for this sell out. He mine as well switch parties. The guy is back stabbing Vets. What a jerk!

The Dems want him right where he's at. He sits on critical GOP committees and is the DEMs useful idiot in that position. No not really idiot. McCain willingly sells out conservatives & he does it on purpose. I don't know which annoys me more on TV though him or Valley Girl McCain who has somehow became a so called political commentator it seems by simply being related to John McCain.

36 posted on 10/29/2011 2:53:23 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: G Larry

That “Free Health Care for Life” keeps getting more and more expensive.

I’m on Tri Care Standard - until they kick me off to Medicare and Medicare part “B”.


37 posted on 10/29/2011 4:31:39 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: cherry
“............I fully believe that changes need to be made in military benefits...for one, not paying retirement pensions until age 60, which is good enough for the guard and reserve, and almost all of those guys have active years in the past....”

Ah, one big difference. Most guard and reserve folks have a civilian career during their service years.

A luxury active folks can't indulge in.

That means at 38-42 a new retiree is unemployed and looking for work.

And the rules for both active and reserve were known to the individual prior to signing up.

Any changes made to this system will not be felt until years down the road. The only “good” (sarcasm)I see coming is some military savings that will be shifted to welfare areas.

10 to 15 years down the road there will be a retention problem with mid-level NCOs and Officers - which the politicians will claim can be fixed with a draft.

Of course nobody will ask the stupid question “How does a 2 year draft fix the problem of a 10 year time in service NCO getting out?” But the key will be to drop pay during those first two years - again saving money.

Get back with me in 15 years and see who was right.

38 posted on 10/29/2011 4:44:30 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: McGavin999

My experience with the Senator’s office for the past seven years has accomplished zip. I am referring to obtainimg support to WWII veterans for recognition towards combat service.
Seems the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), Article 92. Failure to obey order or regulation has no meaning. I cannot locate anyone to enforce it.
Thus, there is no justice for WWII veterans going to their graves without recognition for contributing towards the freedom we all enjoy, today.

Robert


39 posted on 10/29/2011 8:27:06 AM PDT by Robersabel
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To: Robersabel
Try our congress critters, they are pretty good, our senators are both pretty useless for Arizona constituants. They're in DC to serve themselves.

Robert, I will say this to you though. Whether or not our government recognizes those men, most of this country DOES recognize it, so though they may appear to go to their graves unappreciated, they have the hearts and respect of their fellow Americans. It may not seem to helf on this side, but when they get to the other side, they will find out just how much they mattered.

40 posted on 10/29/2011 8:34:39 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: McGavin999

Man I wish we had an edit button. That should have been HELP and not HELF.


41 posted on 10/29/2011 8:36:41 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: McGavin999

>Try our congress critters

I personally spoke twice to Congressman Trent Franks (AZ)regarding WWII veterans. Again, the word zip comes in the picture.
So, with the help from a retired JAG Colonel, USAFR, currently a civilian attorney in the valley, a few of the qualified WWII veterans are receiving the Purple Heart in accordance with.

Robert


42 posted on 10/29/2011 10:11:00 AM PDT by Robersabel
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To: G Larry

If this is true, it will really screw many of our retired NCO’s who already manage with limited benefits. Given the increases that are coming, outside of Tricare Prime, the coverage will be half-assed and almost not worth participating in.


43 posted on 11/11/2011 7:07:16 AM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: rabscuttle385

How about we give our elected leaders the military health plan and give our soldiers the elected leaders health plan? That seems much fairer to me.


44 posted on 11/11/2011 7:11:24 AM PST by liberalh8ter
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To: cherry

Yes, see what that retention is like if you offer a pension beginning at age 60. They tried that with a 40% pension and had to reverse themselves to retain junior personnel.


45 posted on 11/11/2011 7:11:33 AM PST by MSF BU (YR'S Please Support our troops: JOIN THEM!)
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To: TigersEye

DITTO!!!!!!


46 posted on 11/11/2011 7:20:38 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: MSF BU

The only thing needs retired is McCain.....


47 posted on 11/11/2011 7:42:57 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: rabscuttle385
Here is some background rationale for those who care:

Could Retirees be Forced Off TRICARE Prime? November 07, 2011 | Terry Howell 71

Looking to kick retirees out of TRICARE Prime, Sen. McCain told the 12-member Joint Select Committee on Debt Reduction, that restricting working-age retirees and their families from participating in TRICARE Prime would help them avoid spending cuts that would directly impact readiness.

As Tom Philpott recently reported, McCain was once a champion for expanded TRICARE benefits to retirees. But, he now feels eliminating retiree TRICARE Prime is more acceptable than alternatives to cut equipment, training or key weapon programs needed by the current force.

In addition, McCain supports President Obama’s proposal to set a $200 a year enrollment fee for TRICARE for Life, for military beneficiaries age 65 and older.

If with only TRICARE Standard, retirees would face higher out-of-pockets costs, annual deductibles and cost-sharing requirements. Under TRICARE Standard out-of-pocket costs can’t exceed an annual catastrophic cap. But according to Philpott, the CBO suggests raising that cap of $3000 a year per family to $7500.

In addition the CBO predicts that the number of working-age military retirees using TRICARE would drop form 71 percent to 35 percent they were denied access to TRICARE Prime. The CBO also assumes that retirees would switch to their employer-provided health care option.

Read more: http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2011/11/plans-to-take-tricare-prime-from-retirees/#ixzz1dPc3SWG1 MilitaryAdvantage.Military.com

48 posted on 11/11/2011 7:57:30 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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