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BREAKING NEWS: Qantas grounds entire fleet
news.com.au ^ | 29th October 2011

Posted on 10/29/2011 12:03:51 AM PDT by naturalman1975

QANTAS has grounded its entire domestic and international fleet of aircraft and will lock out all staff involved in its industrial dispute from Monday night.

The incredible move, coming in the middle of a bitter dispute with staff, will strand thousands of passengers in Australia and around the world.

"We are grounding the Qantas fleet now," Qantas chief Alan Joyce has said.

This means:

* passengers in 12 planes at airport gates at the time of the announcement had to disembark;

* 64 planes currently in the air, carrying 7000 passengers, are continuing to their destinations, but passengers with connecting flights will be grounded and given other accommodation;

* an estimated 13,000 passengers will be affected in the next 24 hours alone.

The lockout will begin at 8pm AEDT on Monday, but Mr Joyce has said to maintain safety standards meant the grounding had to be effective from "right now".

"We are locking out until the unions withdraw their extreme claim and reach agreement with us," Mr Joyce has told a press conference.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airlines; ausralia; australia; qantas; travel; unions

1 posted on 10/29/2011 12:03:52 AM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

In before the Rain Man references.


2 posted on 10/29/2011 12:04:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Well, not flying is one sure way to avoid crashing...


3 posted on 10/29/2011 12:09:00 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Actually, a smart move on the part of the Quantas CEO.

The Unions have been staging “Work Actions” and wildcat walkouts for some time, trashing the brand and angering customers.

There really is no alternative for Quantas anymore, they control a huge part of the International markets, Virgin Blue(??), and Quantas’s own LCC’s aren’t nearly large enough to swallow the domestic traffic, and Air New Zealand has been cutting back it’s own flights.

This puts the ball, (And the blame) in the Unions court, now.


4 posted on 10/29/2011 12:10:39 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: naturalman1975

I wouldn’t mind being stranded in Australia, but I would be madder than “H” were I stranded elsewhere and couldn’t get home to Australia!


5 posted on 10/29/2011 12:10:45 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: tcrlaf

GOOD.


6 posted on 10/29/2011 12:11:39 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: tcrlaf
Not that it really matters and just pointing it out for the trivia value, but it's Qantas not Quantas.

Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services. The world's oldest continually operating airline (since 1920 - KLM began operations in 1919 but couldn't operate during much of the Second World War). Depending what happens over coming days, that record could be lost.

7 posted on 10/29/2011 12:16:17 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: tcrlaf

Yah. Quantas appears to be playing hardball. Good for them.


8 posted on 10/29/2011 12:17:15 AM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: naturalman1975

Huh? Really?


9 posted on 10/29/2011 12:19:34 AM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: naturalman1975

They have to lock out the union to prevent sabotage.


10 posted on 10/29/2011 12:24:49 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: naturalman1975; SkyDancer

Still a day to reach an agreement......


11 posted on 10/29/2011 12:36:42 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: naturalman1975
Passengers in flight were given parachutes and pushed out exit doors. No need o worry about them, they were also given detailed printed instructions on parachute operation.
12 posted on 10/29/2011 12:44:11 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GeronL

Sabotage?


13 posted on 10/29/2011 12:58:31 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: naturalman1975

Wow. Taking extreme measures. No retreat, no surrender! Kind of like the Marines. Maybe they should rename the company QantiCo!


14 posted on 10/29/2011 1:02:08 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: naturalman1975

Qantas is shrugging at the communist unions. Excellent.


15 posted on 10/29/2011 1:04:10 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: monkeyshine

They’re a pretty doctrine socialist movement in Australia. It is a leftist government even though they had to pick up some even wackier parties to form a government.

When leftists get that left, and think they have the upper hand (or are about the lose the upper hand), they can very well be violent.

Or at least that’s the way to bet.


16 posted on 10/29/2011 1:07:34 AM PDT by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: saganite
Kind of like the Marines. Maybe they should rename the company QantiCo!

You know, that's pretty good.

17 posted on 10/29/2011 1:07:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dfwgator

Here we go OCCUPY QANTAS !


18 posted on 10/29/2011 1:10:30 AM PDT by traumer
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To: monkeyshine
Sabotage?

My WW2 Dad tells me that Australian unions were sabotaging American bombers during the war!

19 posted on 10/29/2011 1:34:27 AM PDT by Does so ("Drill-Baby-Drill" is NOT a new Government entitlement for "Free Dentistry".)
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To: monkeyshine

sabootoj!

work slowdowns, delays, “sick outs” and whatever else unions do to hurt their employer.


20 posted on 10/29/2011 1:35:19 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: onyx

“I wouldn’t mind being stranded in Australia.”

It would be a nice place if it wasn’t for the extreme PC/left wing political situation.


21 posted on 10/29/2011 1:40:12 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Lancey Howard

Once knew a wealthy businessman who had done a number of decently sized startups with good success. He swore if his employees even threatened to unionize that he would shut down immediately and take the $$$ hit. His logic was “If they want to XXXX me over, I’ll return the favor...NOW.”

He explained that he’d take a financial loss right then or potentially far more by running an unprofitable co. But his real bottom line was that ‘he’ started and ran the show with his $$$ and work and no union was going to walk in and dictate squat to him.

I’ll always admire him for that.


22 posted on 10/29/2011 1:42:56 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: naturalman1975
Screw unions. I'm sick of their demands.

LOCK THEM OUT! FOR A LONG TIME! MAKE THEM CAVE!

23 posted on 10/29/2011 1:47:53 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: Does so

The Aussies unions screwed everything durning the war. The longshoremen went on strike and the US Army was used to unload ships. It was found out the army did it faster even though they were not trained.


24 posted on 10/29/2011 2:31:37 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: naturalman1975

I’d love to see US companies have the balls and brilliance to make a similar move—hard ball time. Let’s play :-l.


25 posted on 10/29/2011 2:36:13 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Does so

It wasn’t just Australian unions that caused trouble during the war. American unions did too.


26 posted on 10/29/2011 3:12:05 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fresh Wind
My father once commented that the Mafia in the US was a more reliable ally in WW II than our own unions. He worked as a shipbuilder after the war in Erie and Philadelphia and grew to despise unions.

Of course, growing up in Hyannis MA near the Kennedys made him a Republican at an early age ...

27 posted on 10/29/2011 3:19:42 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: naturalman1975
"Bad news..."
28 posted on 10/29/2011 3:24:50 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: GeronL

and a necessary and smart move...


29 posted on 10/29/2011 3:25:33 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: dfwgator

In after “in before the rain man reference.” :-)


30 posted on 10/29/2011 3:26:16 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: tcrlaf

The pilots will have to find a way home too! :-)


31 posted on 10/29/2011 3:35:13 AM PDT by almost done by half
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To: naturalman1975

I hate Quantas!


32 posted on 10/29/2011 6:06:43 AM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are next to the potatoes!)
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To: GOP Poet
" I’d love to see US companies have the balls and brilliance to make a similar move—hard ball time. Let’s play :-l. "

Basically, that's what Boeing did my moving some of their production of the 787 to a right to work state of South Carolina, that is ? until Obama told them that they could not do that.
I hope Boeing moves the production of the 737 MAX to another right to work state ( s ).

Boeing ? starve the Union beast, move production to right to work states where your more appreciated.
33 posted on 10/29/2011 6:09:46 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: naturalman1975
Related link....

Move was Joyce's only real option

34 posted on 10/29/2011 6:13:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: tcrlaf
This puts the ball, (And the blame) in the Unions court, now.

Precisely where it should be!!
35 posted on 10/29/2011 6:27:06 AM PDT by az.b1bbomberfxr
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To: naturalman1975
64 planes currently in the air, carrying 7000 passengers, are continuing to their destinations, but passengers with connecting flights will be grounded and given other accommodation;

Very interesting. Maybe the crews have to get home some other way, too?

36 posted on 10/29/2011 7:12:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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37 posted on 10/29/2011 7:45:51 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Fresh Wind

Not just in Australia, but here in San Francisco as well. Check out good old Harry Bridges (an Australian) who lead the ILWU in SF during the War.

The Industrial Workers of the World and the Communist Party had both attempted to organize longshoremen, sailors and fishermen in the 1920s. The Communist Party’s union never made much headway on the West Coast, but did attract a number of former IWW members and other militants, such as Harry Bridges, an Australian-born sailor who became a longshoreman after coming to the United States. Those activists soon joined the International Longshoremen’s Association, despite their reservations about its reputation for corruption and lack of militancy, when passage of the National Industrial Recovery Act in 1933 led to an explosion in union membership in the ILA among West Coast longshoremen.


38 posted on 10/29/2011 9:19:12 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Yes. This is the way to go. LOVE IT!


39 posted on 10/29/2011 11:11:59 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: vette6387

Here’s an example from my area:

http://www.warbirdforum.com/inquirer.htm

The thug UAW union boss at this aircraft factory made this statement about the illegal wildcat strike his local engaged in:

“If I had brothers at the front line who needed the 10 or 12 planes that were sacrificed [in the strike], I’d let them die, if necessary, to preserve our way of life or rights or whatever you want to call it,” he told a Washington Post reporter.


40 posted on 10/29/2011 12:00:28 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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