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Steve Forbes: Rick Perry will win the Republican nomination
The State Column ^ | Oct., 27, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 10/29/2011 11:42:03 AM PDT by Innovative

Former presidential candidate and current media mogul Steve Forbes said Thursday the Texas Republican governor Rick Perry is likely to capture the Republican presidential nomination.

"He was good on taxes and spending in Texas; he was very good on tort reform. Texas has been a cesspool for injury lawyers, and he made major changes - and the proof of it was they all moved to Oklahoma. And obviously I like his ideas on a flat tax. I think he genuinely wants to get the thing done. So it seems to be a good combination," Mr. Forbes said in an interview with the Daily Beast Thursday.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: amnesty; forbes; formerdemocrat; heartless; moron; openborders; perry; perry2012; rickperry; rino; steveforbes; texas
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1 posted on 10/29/2011 11:42:04 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

If true it could be much worse.


2 posted on 10/29/2011 11:46:26 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Innovative

Forbes has but one vote!


3 posted on 10/29/2011 11:48:02 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: Innovative

Is that after Libya goes Baptist and Santa Claus delivers my Maybach?


4 posted on 10/29/2011 11:48:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Innovative
Blather2012
5 posted on 10/29/2011 11:48:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obyema 2012 - he has addition deficit disorder... (not my line, but a great one to repeat))
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To: Innovative

Just like Steve Forbes was going to win the 1996 nomination? Oops, I’m sorry, the 2000 nomination? Oops, I’m sorry.


6 posted on 10/29/2011 11:49:25 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: EGPWS

I hate to say it, but I am still just so GD undecided, it’s driving me nuts. There are so good candidates, but there is no one who lights my fire like SP did.

Damn.


7 posted on 10/29/2011 11:50:17 AM PDT by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a candidate start out with the big Mo, lost it, then regain it to win.


8 posted on 10/29/2011 11:50:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obyema 2012 - he has addition deficit disorder... (not my line, but a great one to repeat))
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To: Innovative

Steve isn’t taking the screaming emotional loony vote into account.


9 posted on 10/29/2011 11:51:22 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Innovative

lol! Steve Forbes once thought he would, too!!!


10 posted on 10/29/2011 11:54:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Dick Nixon, but it took almost eight years!


11 posted on 10/29/2011 11:55:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: jessduntno
I hate to say it, but I am still just so GD undecided, it’s driving me nuts.

As I am except for Romney and Huntsman.

It's going to take a he!! of a lot more to get me to put the rest in the same category as those two yahoo's!

12 posted on 10/29/2011 11:56:10 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Innovative

Wonder what the Forbes payoff is?

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026?print=true


13 posted on 10/29/2011 11:56:31 AM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Founding Father

Does anybody on the planet take that rag seriously?


14 posted on 10/29/2011 11:59:51 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Innovative

How does he know?

Gotta run, in movie theater,saify for movie to start.


15 posted on 10/29/2011 11:59:51 AM PDT by ken21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And maybe Perry will be successful in 2016, which would be a good corollary, but in 2012 his goose is cooked IMO.


16 posted on 10/29/2011 12:01:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obyema 2012 - he has addition deficit disorder... (not my line, but a great one to repeat))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually 2020 would be more appropriate if we’re talking eight years.


17 posted on 10/29/2011 12:02:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obyema 2012 - he has addition deficit disorder... (not my line, but a great one to repeat))
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Uh Oh! Didn't Donate?


Click The Pic To Keep Your Forum

18 posted on 10/29/2011 12:02:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: mylife
Steve isn’t taking the screaming emotional loony vote into account.

I think he has considered you, that's just not enough for Perry to win. :-P

19 posted on 10/29/2011 12:02:36 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: Innovative

I wish he would - and I didn’t like Perry to begin with - because Perry is the one who has the most documented conservative positions but is also probably best able to negotiate success (that is, carry out his agenda through third parties, such as Congress).

My personal favorite is Newt Gingrich, but it looks to me as if the GOP has already decided it will be a Romney/Cain ticket.

I think Cain is a decent person and a successful businesman with good inspirations (but little real knowledge of the rest of the world), but he’s not very socially conservative and he’s not presidential material. He’s good at “debates” because he has a radio program. But he will be what the GOP will use to get people to vote for Romney, just the way they used Palin to get people to vote for McCain.


20 posted on 10/29/2011 12:03:18 PM PDT by livius
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To: mylife

Read the article instead of jumping to conclusions. You’ll learn why conservative Texas republicans do not support Perry.


21 posted on 10/29/2011 12:04:28 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: South40

Snappy rejoinder /s


22 posted on 10/29/2011 12:05:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Founding Father

like the part about the cheerleader getting her leg ji**ed on?

I won’t was my time with that article.


23 posted on 10/29/2011 12:08:00 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Innovative

Hey Steve, at one time you thought YOU would be President too. How did that turn out?


24 posted on 10/29/2011 12:08:18 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: jessduntno

If/When she endorses one, will you back that candidate?


25 posted on 10/29/2011 12:09:44 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: Innovative

So, Steve Forbes has no problem with coddling illegals, abuse of imminent domain, misuse of public funds, nanny statism and lousy communication skills, just as long as Perry adapts his flat tax. Thanks for clearing that up.


26 posted on 10/29/2011 12:10:09 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: livius

Listen to Rick Perry speak..... he makes stuttering Obama sound like Ronald Reagan. Doesn’t matter what you stand for, have done, or promise to do..... if you can’t articulate your message in a coherent way, no one will buy what you’re selling.

It is strange that Forbes endorses Perry and his tax plan over Newt Gingrich’s, because from what I have seen it is similar to Newt’s plan, but not nearly as good. Newt probably developed his own plan, where someone probably wrote Perry’s for him, handed him the talking points on it, and sent him out in front of the cameras to sell it.

If you have heard Newt talk about his plan in depth, it is clear that he actually can PASS his plan. He is absolutely 100% convincing, and will attract Independents and probably moderate Democrats as well. Perry, not so much.


27 posted on 10/29/2011 12:13:30 PM PDT by jageorge72
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To: TADSLOS

I don’t think Perry did adopt it per se. He said it would be an option for those that want it. Others can stick w the old system. How does that turn the 47% who pay no taxes into skin-in-the-gamers?


28 posted on 10/29/2011 12:13:32 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Grunthor

“If/When she endorses one, will you back that candidate?”

I don’t think that would make me decide one way or the other. I believe pretty firmly in making what I think is my best choice. It would have some weight, but I did not entirely agree with all of her endorsements, though I liked most of her positions. I think trust is a factor...and believability.


29 posted on 10/29/2011 12:14:34 PM PDT by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: mylife

your lack of investigation concerning candidates is what continually leads us to nominees like obama, mccain, dole, etc. thanks for your service to the country.


30 posted on 10/29/2011 12:14:45 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: livius

In what way do you find Mr. Cain not socially conservative?


31 posted on 10/29/2011 12:15:14 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: mylife
Steve isn’t taking the screaming emotional loony vote into account.

Actually he is counting on it. It is the only votes Perry can win.

32 posted on 10/29/2011 12:17:35 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: EGPWS

Yeah, but at this point he would have to kill his rivals to do it, so it would have to be really bad to.reach the much worse scenario.

Perry’s record was always going to sink him if he ran.

The base wants a conservative, and he aint one


33 posted on 10/29/2011 12:18:33 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Innovative

Well, I guess the campaigning is over. Steve Forbes has spoken.


34 posted on 10/29/2011 12:19:27 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Still searching for the new tagline!)
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To: sodpoodle

If Perry had a real shot he would have stepped down as Governor by now.


35 posted on 10/29/2011 12:19:33 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: basil

“In what way do you find Mr. Cain not socially conservative?”

Empowerment Zones confused the shit outta me. Using the government to choose winners and losers in business is not my understanding of a conservative philosophy at any level.


36 posted on 10/29/2011 12:19:51 PM PDT by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jageorge72
Sorry but the is PURE wishful thinking.

Like Newt's jumping on the Global Warming train, and his chastising Conservatives for not rallying behind Dede Scusaffasa in NY 23. Newt has a long record of talking a good game and being just another GOP Establishment water boy.

In a choice between Conservative principals and political expediency, Newt will go with expediency every time.

37 posted on 10/29/2011 12:21:37 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Innovative

“Heartless”, tax payer paid education for anchor babies over others, can’t compete in debates and on and on.

I think Perry is a nice guy, but he has made himself a lame horse.


38 posted on 10/29/2011 12:22:48 PM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life, my way ~........ leaning heavy for Newt 2012)
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To: livius

Romney/Cain ticket is a loser. Romney is McCain or Dole and they cannot be saved with Palin or Kemp in the co-pilot seat.


39 posted on 10/29/2011 12:22:55 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Innovative

the only thing I can say in his favor is that if his disastrous start was a series of isolated incidents, at least it happened early. as in college football, if you have to lose a game, it’s better to lose the first one than the last one.

but I think there is a very good chance that he is just a really, really bad candidate.


40 posted on 10/29/2011 12:22:55 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: jessduntno

fair enough


41 posted on 10/29/2011 12:23:36 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: basil

“In what way do you find Mr. Cain not socially conservative?”

In what way do the Empowerment Zones and jiggered, progressive tax rates make sense? I am NOT doing anything but trying to understand how this all fits with a conservatism. I am completely undecided on this. I realize there are no firm plans out there. I am talking about the philosophical underpinnings of the candidates.


42 posted on 10/29/2011 12:24:05 PM PDT by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: livius

Romney has zero chance to reach the head of a ticket.

Mitt has never reached an approval rating higher than twenty five percent among Republicans despite all the money he pours into his campaign.

He never will either.

If he ever makes it onto a ticket at all, it will be as VP.


43 posted on 10/29/2011 12:24:15 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: jageorge72

Oh, I agree. Perry is not a good speaker, mostly (I think) because he’s used to speaking to a conservative state where most people outside of UT Austin agreed with him. And Cain is just glib and has no experience and no depth.

Gingrich is my preferred candidate. I’d love to see him as the candidate, but I don’t think GOP Central is even remotely interested in this. They have made up their minds, and it’s going to be Romney (probably with Cain as his VP).


44 posted on 10/29/2011 12:24:36 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius
but he’s not very socially conservative

Your ignorance of Herman Cain appears to be total The 9th Commandment is not a suggestion. Bearing false witness is still a sin.

African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life (Herman Cain 2006)

http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/

45 posted on 10/29/2011 12:28:05 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: GeronL
If Perry had a real shot he would have stepped down as Governor by now.

Rita's not going to give up the Texas mansion until the one in D.C. is being fitted with her drapes.

46 posted on 10/29/2011 12:28:28 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: basil

Well, maybe the fact that he’s had to backtrack on several things.

Also, Cain has NO governing experience. He has never had to support legislation, gain general support for his viewpoints, or work with other entities. He ran a business and had a radio program. So his opinions, even if they had been solidly pro-life and conservative, would have been simply that: opinions.

At least Perry, while he’s not a sparkling speaker, fought for and got pro-life and other conservative positions (such as the rejection of sanctuary cities) passed.


47 posted on 10/29/2011 12:28:36 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Well since we have demonstrated you are completely ignorant about Cain, how about instead of spamming the thread with your ignorant emotion based opinions, you try and spend your time learning about Cain instead?


48 posted on 10/29/2011 12:29:41 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Innovative

RINO Ricardo is a total loser. I was prepared to give him a second chance if he pursued the eligibility issue, but he folded within hours to MSM pressure like a coward. Mitt may be a socialist but let’s face it he is a winner whereas Slick Rick is just lame.


49 posted on 10/29/2011 12:30:39 PM PDT by 83Vet4Life
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To: jessduntno
You means the same Empowerment Zones Ronald Reagan wrote in his tax reform bill?

What part of 9-9-9 do you completely fail to understand? There is NOTHING progressive about it.

50 posted on 10/29/2011 12:31:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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